Impeachment of Donald J. Trump

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Jeanne_S said:
You might want to tone down your rhetoric.CallingvTrump a lawless crook is flag worthy imo and goes against forum guidelines for charitable posts
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My reading of the rules is they require charity towards other posters and towards clergy.
i have seen nothing in the rules that say, or any evidence in posts that charity toward politicians is required.
Jeanne_S said:
It seems odd to me that saying this would be flag worthy, but people seem to have a free pass to make up whatever they want about Biden. I guess it shows who is doing the flagging.
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Not just Biden. All of the candidates, Schiff, Nadler, the four,and most of all - even to this day - Hillary.
Application of the suggested rule might severely limit posting.
Trader said:
What does that say about them?
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They chose well.
Aquinas11 said:
define “abuse of power”
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In this context it is well defined in the articles of impeachment and brief that are linked in this thread.
 
Maximus1 said:
I am not a young guy. Just the fact Levin somehow broke into mainstream audience tells you how the new media is filled with extremism. He was an underground source most of my life because reputable sources would not have him. Go check
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Mark Levin and extremism? It is more like Mark Levin delivers the truth.

Mark Levin is also a well respected and best selling
author.

I don’t understand why people choose to believe the
lies told to them when there people like Levin who puts everything into perspective.
 
Why?
I am not a teen anger. That’s why. The world is older than 15 years old. That’s why.
And I lived then, participated , and observed.
The old joke with those guys involved selling survivalists stuff and similar fringe advertising due to his audience.
SEEDS!
Their wealth was derived from their MAILING LISTS which were valuable to an outfit selling survivalists hovels equipt with seeds etc when the big day comes.
Their industry can be another thread, but the point is it is only recent that they have been invited to networks even like Fox.
Now I do not insult his intelligence, I simply say he is a long time extremist. And he is
 
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Aquinas11 said:
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7_Sorrows:
Please tell me why you think he is an extremist
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I think they did tell you why - “we disagree”

Anyone who disagrees with them is an “extremist”
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I know it is a term they like to throw around frequently.
 
No. I say Trump did not go far enough in demanding that Ukraine investigate both the Biden extortion and the 2016 Ukrainian interference in our election (which Ukrainian courts have already acknowledged).

No evidence exonerates Biden.

You imply that my view of spiritual matters is colored by my politics, and yet you support abortionists politically because of yours? REally?

I think today will be somewhat interesting as Trump is going to publicly manifest why the Dems hate him so much. He is going to actually speak in favor of life in the prolife march. The left media will be besides themselves with rage.
 
Why would you require an exact definition? Your premise is faulty ab initio.
Example:
Pornography. The statutes challenged on vaugeness grounds had SCOTUS issuing words like," I know it when I see it."
And what exactly is purient interest? For someone like Saint Paul, with a Charism, it is one thing. To a hyper-sexual, another.
How do we govern?
Well one way is a community standard. Something between Saint Paul and the deviant.
Medical Malpractice utilize a community standard. What is not malpractice in the Ozarks might be malpractice in a well equipt city. The jury decides based on expert testimony about the particular standard of care.
Important!
This is not a criminal proceeding. President is a job. No liberty right is at stake. You have no property right.
Important! There are in fact guidelines.
What we don’t appreciate is that High crimes and misdameanors is purposefully general. You don’t want to encourage loophole finding.
In 1776 the primary concern was clearly foreign interference in our elections. Which is the subject of this very impeachment. We had Tories everywhere, and they were still everywhere through the War of 1812. Long Island NY was a stronghold. Some fled and took their wealth to Canada, looking to return.
The standard is set by the Senate( the community)
 
The error is in agreeing a definition is needed. The moment you do this, the remaining conversation is different shapes of wrong.
 
Well for you thank God for Russian propaganda putting the blame on Ukraine. Just adopt what Putin says and assume he acts in America’s best interest. I can’t! Sorry.
You point to his March, pro life( ironically chosen to help himself in impeachment right at this moment in time. The exact point made by the Dems. ) and,“Why the Dems hate him,”( which specifically diverts from the actual charges and acts in the impeachment. Let’s defend the impeachment by getting people to think about something other than the facts.) In Trial, you can’t do that.
Mark Twain had those great Characters. King and Duke. The guys who get tarred and feathered in the end as frauds. They sold they were Royal and Victims. ( The stock in trade of the huckster that somehow " charms " people into detrimental reliance.). Res Ipsa.
 
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Ridgerunner said:
I think today will be somewhat interesting as Trump is going to publicly manifest why the Dems hate him so much. He is going to actually speak in favor of life in the prolife march.
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This is and always was the bottom line. Praying for conversion of hearts.
 
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