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mrad25
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Where did I say anything? Plus you added additional text to what actually ANOTHER poster said. I gave response to what you claimed I said, but didn’t say.
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Maximus1
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Oh wow, private means campaign
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PetraG
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When did I claim you said anything? I think you have me mixed up with someone else? Or was the post I cited accidentally attributed to you when you did not post it?
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mrad25
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What you said: “ You’re saying”When did I claim you said anything? I think you have me mixed up with someone else? Or was the post I cited accidentally attributed to you when you did not post it?
Someone else said that not me.You’re saying the President had a personal lawyer handling his personal business in Ukraine that included getting a political rival investigated?
Doesn’t that have everything to do with this thread?
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Maximus1
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Biden got rid of the prosecutor who wouldn’t invedtigate Burisma and reply with someone who might. Thats presidential.
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mrad25
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Burisma was already being investigated. Biden got rid of a prosecutor right after the Burisma owners house was raided. Someone’s house doesn’t get raided unless they are being looked into, right?
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Maximus1
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Is this the Russian plant story?
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There was most definitely a lack of transparency. The call was overclassifying so it would be covered up. The delays is providing the whistleblower report and not telling Congress that the aid was being withheld are also clear signs of a coverup. There has never been a blanket assertion of executive privilege before now - a very dangerous sign for the future of the Republic. So, the facts don’t back up your assertion.
Yes it was.
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CradleRC58
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It appears they proved that Trump did exactly what he promised to do. Expose corruption and drain the swamp.
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PetraG
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Do tell. What evidence lead you to that conclusion… I mean, what did he and Rudy expose that our government did not know already?
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mrad25
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Your speculations are still wrong. The call was not overclassified. Come on. On June 19, 2019, 0MB learned that the President had asked about DOD’s plans for USAI.
Additionally their were dscussions with DOD, including DOD’s Office of General Counsel, regardign delaying aid. https://www.vanhollen.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Dec. 11 OMB Response.pdf
Trump didn’t need to exert executive privilege because Democrats never did the required prerequisites to have a trial or subpoena witnesses. The House was still very aware Trump would go to Article 3 and that is why they didn’t proceed with the witnesses. No other reason. They were well aware one way or another. To act like they weren’t is deceitful.
Just because you say it was doesn’t make it so.
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Of course it was overclassified. If it was properly classified, it wouldn’t have been released.
And this is how you end up with an “Obstruction of Congress” impeachment charge. Keep this in mind if you ever get upset with a Democratic President not answering to a Republican Congress.
At least my view has a basis in fact.
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That makes absolute no sense. Think what you are saying. Over classifying is what you initially said. A classfied call can be un classified and released and still have information classified in it.
It’s a false charge that has not legal standing or justification when proceedings weren’t even properly held at said time of charge.
It actually isn’t. Burisma cases were settled in late 2016 and early 2017, and they paid a penalty for tax issues. Reports additional ones opened, and against Burisma owner and his house was raided Feb 2016 , 1.5 month later March 2016 prosecutor on Burisma was fired. Joe Biden, His Son and the Case Against a Ukrainian Oligarch - The New York Times - The Democrats entire case is based on the proposition of Burisma and their so called innocence and their was no reason to justifying investigating Burisma or Hunter Biden. Ha.
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Maximus1
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A nation of people who would vote for him if he shot someone on 5th ave.
I couldn’t believe my ears when Trumps lawyer tried to argue his own interpretation of the House rules. Something 100% within the PEROGATIVE of Pelosi. It was the twilight zone
I couldn’t believe my ears when Trumps lawyer tried to argue his own interpretation of the House rules. Something 100% within the PEROGATIVE of Pelosi. It was the twilight zone
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The obstruction is so clear
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Maximus1
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By using his office to coerce a foreign leader to investigate his political opponent. Lol.
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mrad25
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By being the President of the United States who has a legal duty and obligation under the Constitution to investigate or ask matters of corruption dealing with the US or US persons to be looked into no matter who it is or involves. Coerce? What did the Ukrainians say “normal conversation, no pressure no threat”.
Why are the Democrats and Joe Biden so afraid of these Burisma investigations if they have nothing to hide? They are trying to prevent them every step of the way.
Why are the Democrats and Joe Biden so afraid of these Burisma investigations if they have nothing to hide? They are trying to prevent them every step of the way.
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I think so too. It will be really bad if any President in the future thinks they can Trump their way out of impeachment by covering up everything and refusing to cooperate with Congressional investigations.
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Jeanne_S
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It will be really bad for any future presidents now that the bar has been set so low by this rogue Congress as to impeach a president purely on conjecture,and the desire to oust him to control an upcoming election.
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