In his new memoir, Barack Obama relishes taunting Trump: ‘He was a spectacle’

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JanR said:
Did Biden get more HONEST votes than Mr. Trump? More LEGITIMATE votes? More LEGAL votes? That’s what must ultimately be determined. Just getting more votes doesn’t make a candidate a winner. Actually, if he has to obtain more votes through methods of fraud and cheating, he’s a loser. A winner obtains votes properly. He doesn’t have to resort to underhanded tricks
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The truth is coming out, no, Biden did not get more legitimate votes, Trump won in a landslide.
 
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Rigged for sure. And the evidence has been copiously posted here on CAF.
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Quite an exaggeration. Two uncontested FACTS emerged from the election:
  1. Biden got more votes than Trump
  2. The candidate who gets more votes wins the election and takes office
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No duh! But as to Biden in certain states the question
needs to be how?
 
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How did Biden get more votes in certain states? More people there voted for him than for Trump!
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But not until boxes of crates with ballots came in at 4 AM in the morning.

Now, one of the states, it may be PA. has more mail-in ballots turned in than sent out.

Fraud.

Infanticide.

Abortion.

Racial agitation, accusing others.

Street Riots.

Nothing imho, is beyond the Democrats,

Looks like we have a good chance of proving fraud and a party that uses fraud in a national election?? Has to be the lowest, they want to cheat every American out of votes.

Voting for pro-abortion politicians helps enable abortion, doing such lacks credibility. Obama has enabled abortion, the deaths of millions, in his long career and lacks credibility. Especially, all in my view, in Christian beliefs and definitely Catholic thinking. It’s obscene to even bring that kind of thinking around.

Democrats have failed in big cities, Minneapolis, Chicago, Baltimore and so on.
 
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Victoria33 said:
The truth is coming out, no, Biden did not get more legitimate votes, Trump won in a landslide.
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This will be my last post in the thread since I don’t want to spend the last days of CAF discussing Trump.

You need to stop living in this fantasy world where Trump won. He didn’t. It’s over. His lawsuits are getting regularly laughed out of court, Joe Bidens margins are large enough that a recount is not going to change the results, and even some of Trumps closest allies in government and the media are backing away from him at this point. It’s over. He lost.

If you have this fantasy that the Supreme Court is going to swoop in and deliver Trump a second term, you need to stop listening to the people at OAN or Newsmax who are making a buck telling you what you want to hear. The self-delusion is just getting sad at this point.

And why is it so shocking and unbelievable that Trump lost? He’s literally never been popular, won a very narrow victory four years ago, and we’re in a midst of a pandemic that most Americans, fairly or not, think he’s mishandled. That’s not a recipe for re-election. Getting five thousand of his fans to come to a stadium to hear him speak is not a sign that he was ever actually popular.

Let it go already. If you’re a Republican, you’d be better served spending your time and money trying to hold the Senate than sinking deeper into this fantasy land where Trump somehow flips the election results.
 
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RolandThompsonGunner said:
This will be my last post in the thread since I don’t want to spend the last days of CAF discussing Trump.

You need to stop living in this fantasy world where Trump won. He didn’t. It’s over. His lawsuits are getting regularly laughed out of court, Joe Bidens margins are large enough that a recount is not going to change the results, and even some of Trumps closest allies in government and the media are backing away from him at this point. It’s over. He lost.

If you have this fantasy that the Supreme Court is going to swoop in and deliver Trump a second term, you need to stop listening to the people at OAN or Newsmax who are making a buck telling you what you want to hear. The self-delusion is just getting sad at this point.

And why is it so shocking and unbelievable that Trump lost? He’s literally never been popular, won a very narrow victory four years ago, and we’re in a midst of a pandemic that most Americans, fairly or not, think he’s mishandled. That’s not a recipe for re-election. Getting five thousand of his fans to come to a stadium to hear him speak is not a sign that he was ever actually popular.

Let it go already. If you’re a Republican, you’d be better served spending your time and money trying to hold the Senate than sinking deeper into this fantasy land where Trump somehow flips the election results.
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Why are you telling me all of this? Are you like Springsteen and shamefully vote to enable abortion and the deaths of millions? . . .

Were you not the same one who told us, Florida and the Cubans would be for the Democrats?

Funny how in all states with a functional electoral system, we don’t have doubts.

. . . . I’m not engaging in voting for depravities and supporting people like Obama. By the same token, how is that Catholic teaching??

Er, you ask if people are Republican or what, my posts seem to get flagged if I say some things but at least, they don’t have the kind of history we see from some parties.
 
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Were you not the same one who told us, Florida and the Cubans would be for the Democrats?
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This is the second time you’ve mentioned this to me and I have no idea what it’s referring to. I went back and looked at my posts and the only post I have that even references Florida politics is one in which I said that Obama won Florida twice, the point being that we can’t assume it’s a solid Republican state. “Florida is a swing state” is not exactly a controversial take. To my knowledge, I’ve never posted “haw haw Trump is going to lose Florida!!” or whatever you seem to be referring to. I think you have me confused with someone else.

Anyway, you’re missing the point with the ranting about depravity and abortion. I’m not saying you have to like the fact that Trump lost or become a Democrat or whatever. I’m just saying you should acknowledge the reality that it happened; Trump is not going to be president on January 21st. He’s not. You can live in reality and still say “I wish it had gone the other way.”

Elections don’t always go your way. It’s a normal part of life in a democracy. I said the same thing to Democrats who thought the sun was going to explode when Trump won.
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Er, you ask if people are Republican or what, my posts seem to get flagged if I say some things but at least, they don’t have the kind of history we see from some parties.
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You’re missing the point. I’m not saying “Democrats good, Republicans bad.” I’ve voted for Republicans before and probably will again. A lot of my views are conservative. This isn’t about your political allegiances or preferences. It’s about living in reality and acknowledging Trump lost. Whether it makes you happy or sad, Trump is not going to win a second term. Accepting that doesn’t mean you have to like it.
 
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This is taunting and against forum rules. I am done here, this is for civil discussion, to disagree in a civil manner.

Biden may win, he may win honestly, he may win by fraud, that’s for others to decide.

One thing that we know, the unborn are the losers under Democratic administrations and not just in the US, but in Third world countries.
 
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It is absolutely not “taunting.” By the standards of World News, I’ve been extremely civil.

It’s just something you don’t want to hear.

Happy Thanksgiving.
 
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Its very easy to bring a self-centered person or narcissist to their knees with a few words what they think is their strength is actually their weakness.
 
I wonder if he describes how he put into motion the attempts to undermine Trump snd overturn the 2016 election. 🤔
 
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