Indian-American Elected Louisiana’s Governor

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Bobby Jindal asserting himself as a born-again Catholic is campaign rhetoric to assuage the largely Protestant voters of north Louisiana. (It should be remembered that our current governor, Kathleen Blanco, is Catholic and regularly attends the cathedral parish in Baton Rouge.) There were anti-Catholic attack ads used in north Louisiana which is equal opportunity in terms of despising both blacks and Catholics.

I’ve been a state employee for the last twenty-nine years. Mr. Jindal has some really great ideas but the problem that he will face is the same problem the previous three Repulican “reform” governors faced - the legislature. North Louisiana hates south Louisiana - everyone hates the New Orleans area. During my career, I have had the opportunity to serve as a technical expert in testifying before house and senate committees. It turned my stomach. It was nothing but partisan and regional politics.

I don’t have any hope that Mr. Jindal will be able to surmount this. I would love to be optimistic. My experience argues otherwise.
 
brotherhrolf said:
Bobby Jindal asserting himself as a born-again Catholic is campaign rhetoric to assuage the largely Protestant voters of north Louisiana. (It should be remembered that our current governor, Kathleen Blanco, is Catholic and regularly attends the cathedral parish in Baton Rouge.) There were anti-Catholic attack ads used in north Louisiana which is equal opportunity in terms of despising both blacks and Catholics.

I’ve been a state employee for the last twenty-nine years. Mr. Jindal has some really great ideas but the problem that he will face is the same problem the previous three Repulican “reform” governors faced - the legislature. North Louisiana hates south Louisiana - everyone hates the New Orleans area. During my career, I have had the opportunity to serve as a technical expert in testifying before house and senate committees. It turned my stomach. It was nothing but partisan and regional politics.

I don’t have any hope that Mr. Jindal will be able to surmount this. I would love to be optimistic. My experience argues otherwise.
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I am so sorry to hear that. We loved NO when we lived there. Maybe if we all pray real hard…
 
Ahimsa said:
Teaching Intelligent Design as an alternative to evolution??:bigyikes:

Please tell me I’m dreaming.
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Click here==>>> No Intelligence AllowedImportant question, Why are all the Neo-Darwinists so nervous right now. What are they so afraid of? Is it to think that there is something bigger then they are?

As to Bobby Jindal, I am going to keep an eye on his career and add him to my pray list.

Being a double convert finally coming home all the way to the Catholic Church, 🤷 well, God may have him in training for great things. Let us sit back, pray and see.:cool:
JMJ ><>
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Look on the bright side. He’ll probably be better than what they have had in the past. Now if they could get rid of “school bus” Ray Nagin, they might have something going. Raymond Arroyo of EWTN was a resident of New Orleans, and he said graft and corruption has always been a way of life there.
 
Semper_Fi said:
Well, if the people of Louisiana (which had grousome Jim Crowe laws) can elect him as their Governor, I don’t see any reason why he couldn’t succeed on a Vice Presidential ticket.
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If he is foreign born, he is Constitutionally prohibited from being President, and hence from being Vice-President as well.
 
Bennie_P said:
Click here==>>> No Intelligence Allowed Important question, Why are all the Neo-Darwinists so nervous right now. What are they so afraid of? Is it to think that there is something bigger then they are?

As to Bobby Jindal, I am going to keep an eye on his career and add him to my pray list.

Being a double convert finally coming home all the way to the Catholic Church, 🤷 well, God may have him in training for great things. Let us sit back, pray and see.:cool:
JMJ ><>
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Dawkins is a missionary for scientific atheism.

There are plenty of non-(scientific atheists), including yours truly, who don’t want intelligent design taught in science classes, since science deals with empirical evidence.

There are plenty of non-(scientific atheists), including yours truly, who would be happy to have intelligent design discussed in philosophy, history, sociology, or, even, religion classes. 😃

In any event, I suspect Sri Jindal won’t actively try to impose intelligent design into the science classroom. He graduated from Brown U., home of Kenneth Miller (a Christian, pro-[theistic-evolution] and anti-[intelligent-design-is-science]) for cryin’ out loud.👍
 
Interesting man, I hope, americans tell us more about his politics in Louisiana.
 
Ahimsa said:
Dawkins is a missionary for scientific atheism.

There are plenty of non-(scientific atheists), including yours truly, who don’t want intelligent design taught in science classes, since science deals with empirical evidence.

There are plenty of non-(scientific atheists), including yours truly, who would be happy to have intelligent design discussed in philosophy, history, sociology, or, even, religion classes. 😃

In any event, I suspect Sri Jindal won’t actively try to impose intelligent design into the science classroom. He graduated from Brown U., home of Kenneth Miller (a Christian, pro-[theistic-evolution] and anti-[intelligent-design-is-science]) for cryin’ out loud.👍
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Which that would be a good thing, it if wasn’t for that fact that a lot of science classrooms never even try to scrutinize the current theories of evoluntionary biology that evolutionists continually test , research, and debate. There’s nothing wrong with bringing ID into the classroom if it isn’t taught as dogma and it allows students to think critically by comparing, contrasting, and testing ideas.

Personally, I think way too many Catholics are content to use theistic evolution as a cop out to the holes that evolutionists poke at creationism. While personally I have nothing against theistic evolution, I think it needs a slightly different construct to work within the confines of Genesis.
 
Good to know that someone seemingly smart as Mr.Jindahl think enough of I.D .

Those first verses in the Gen. - ’ In the beginning , when God created the heavens and the earth , the earth was a formless wasteland …while a mighty wind swept over the waters …’ those words could fit in all theories of how old the universe could be …and still concede the 'day ’ as a looong day or just like the miracle of Resurrection…transsubsatntaition and what would take place at the last trumpet call, it could have happened , within literal days …and reinforce faith in a MIghty God , who can set the sun back …and form the crust of the earth in an instant - which is what science seem to support , from evidence of isotopes and such …

and from what I read , good many evolutionists , who are, in greed, out to make a name for themselves , have been proven wrong - such as having made a whole Arizona Man , out of the evidence of one tooth , which later was shown to be of a wild pig !

Now , if enough hearts - where darkness cover the abyss , could be touched …by The Mighty Wind …that The Light come in …that we may speak from One Heart ,so that the children would not be confused by the babel of ideas - that they are only slightly diffrent baboons !

May the prayers of all saints be with us all …and all persons in authority …

Happy Feast of All Saints !
 
about 3 or 4 years Bobby Jindal came to my chuch (Baptist then) to give his testimony. It was very sincere and personal, and everyone at the Church really seemed to appreciate it. He talked about his upbringing and converstion and, meeting his wife. So what I have seen of him, his faith seems to be central in his life, and that is important to me. I might just be being naive though 🤷 I want to think the best of everyone…we’ll see
 
After watching PBS’s Nova tonight on intelligent design, I will personally oppose ANY attempt by our new governor to foment such a fundamentalist protestant theory. It may sit well with his constituents in north Louisiana but it is not science and it is not what HMC has taught. The Earth was not created at night fall preceding Sunday, October 23, 4004 BC Did God create the universe? Of course! But we gotta whole lot of ‘splainin’ to do, Lucy if we think that the universe is only several thousand years old.

My faith is not challenged by my degrees in anthropology. But I am not about to sit back and say that intelligent design is anything but creationism. You want to talk about theistic evolution and us seeing the past though darkly, fine. But as one of the fathers of modern anthropology, Bronislaw Malinowski, postulated, there is a difference between magic, science, and religion. Intelligent design fluctuates between magic and religion… It is not science.
 
When I heard of his election, I thought, “Now the ourtsourcing trend has hit the Louisiana governor’s mansion!”
 
brotherhrolf said:
After watching PBS’s Nova tonight on intelligent design, I will personally oppose ANY attempt by our new governor to foment such a fundamentalist protestant theory.
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I doubt Jindal would do anything so drastic. My experience is that most Catholics of Asian Indian descent generally avoid the fundamentalist elements of Christianity.
 
Ahimsa said:
I doubt Jindal would do anything so drastic. My experience is that most Catholics of Asian Indian descent generally avoid the fundamentalist elements of Christianity.
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It remains to be seen, unfortunately. Given that Louisiana is divided between the predominately Protestant (largely fundamentalist) north and the predominately Catholic south, he made a lot of promises just before the election. One of those was to forward “intelligent design”. “Intelligent design” is not science it is religion and it is not Catholic.
 
brotherhrolf said:
It remains to be seen, unfortunately. Given that Louisiana is divided between the predominately Protestant (largely fundamentalist) north and the predominately Catholic south, he made a lot of promises just before the election. One of those was to forward “intelligent design”. “Intelligent design” is not science it is religion and it is not Catholic.
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This is one of the numerous reasons that I was horrified by Jindal’s election.(lifelong louisiana resident here). Intelligent design has no place in a science class, and is a hindrance to actual learning(i had creationist-only science in high school. Bad idea). Plus, someone who is as loyal to Bush as Jindal still is cannot be good for a state already damaged by Bush’s incompetence.
 
sing said:
This is one of the numerous reasons that I was horrified by Jindal’s election.(lifelong louisiana resident here). Intelligent design has no place in a science class, and is a hindrance to actual learning(i had creationist-only science in high school. Bad idea). Plus, someone who is as loyal to Bush as Jindal still is cannot be good for a state already damaged by Bush’s incompetence.
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I don’t think it was so much Bush’s incompetence as the people of the State. You chose your governor, You chose your Mayor and allowed your politicans for years to play with the money. Don’t blame the Federal government for something that was a State and Local governement problem first.
 
kedera said:
about 3 or 4 years Bobby Jindal came to my chuch (Baptist then) to give his testimony. It was very sincere and personal, and everyone at the Church really seemed to appreciate it. He talked about his upbringing and converstion and, meeting his wife. So what I have seen of him, his faith seems to be central in his life, and that is important to me. I might just be being naive though 🤷 I want to think the best of everyone…we’ll see
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I don’t think it is naive to believe that he has good intentions.I think we are all trained to believe that politicans are natural evil and that when they look good then they must be hiding something. Lets give the man a chance.

Now the question is can he stand up to the pressures of politics and keep his faith at the center of his life and decisions?
 
brotherhrolf said:
It remains to be seen, unfortunately. Given that Louisiana is divided between the predominately Protestant (largely fundamentalist) north and the predominately Catholic south, he made a lot of promises just before the election. One of those was to forward “intelligent design”. “Intelligent design” is not science it is religion and it is not Catholic.
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The north doesn’t HATE the south, we just think you guys are a little, um, different. 😃

Folks, here’s the skinny. Jindal is NOT a traditional Indian Catholic. As stated previously, he was a convert in college. While he’s spent much time in Catholic parts of Louisiana, he’s also spent the last four years in a JFK-like journey to make both his ethnicity and his religion seem not so strange to us salt of the earth simpletons up here in the north Louisiana. You see, Jindal would have won the election four years ago if it had not been for a hesitancy of traditional rural conservative voters here to cast their vote for him. As it was put in this campaign, he had to go out and win the “Bubba vote.” Jindal would show up at Baptist churches carrying a Bible-trying to show everyone he was one of the gang. I think it’s a testament to these folks that they DID eventually overlook the base differences to see that he was a champion of conservative ideas.

As for being in Bush’s pocket-he’s not. He threatened to cast one vote to override a Bush veto (the bill fell short so I don’t believe he bothered since he was campaigning) and he DID vote to override the water projects bill that was loaded with money for coastal erosion.

I halfway agree with brotherhrolf that Jindal won’t accomplish much without the legislature but I don’t think it’s wise to count him out so soon, either. Unlike our previous reform governors, Jindal has a decent slate of legislators who rode his coattails into office. Plus, Jindal is the first governor we’ve had in more than 20 years who is not someone connected to the old political machinery. I think, at the very least, he might do a much better job of administering the recovery.

Per the comments on Blanco vs. Bush in the hurricane, there was incompetency on both sides. Blanco’s administration was ill-prepared for the disaster, that’s for sure. Yet as a federal employee who was detailed into FEMA service during the disaster, I can tell you they sure didn’t have their act together, either.
 
If we are going to call intelligent design, essentially the concept that a force (aka: God) created the Universe, magic; then should we call the Resurrection of Christ and the Consecration of the Eucharist into the body and blood of our Lord magic because it is out of normal scientific thinking?

As far as my two cents goes, while I do not exactly adhere to seven day, 24 hour creationism, proponents of theistic evolution have a lot to explain to make that idea fit within the construct of Genesis as well.

Considering the fact that he is a convert, who from my research looking at his past writing on the faith is rather informed of it, he should get a fair shot from people, looking at his whole policy platform.
 
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