Infertility

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My son was so hurt when his baby sister was stillborn. He had lit candles and prayed before the statue of the Blessed Virgin Mary for years so that he may have a brother. When I told him that he would have a sister soon he had asked if they could still share a room and he would paint one room pink for her. We had just begun to get things ready when we found out she had died. He was just sick when we told him. In tears he said he would have painted all his walls pink for her. It was so hard to then have to tell him later in the year that his baby brother had also died. We prayed about it and we decided that although we are all sad, we now have Saints in heaven praying for us. He was so excited to tell his classmates that his brother and sister were Saints in heaven praying for him. He now enjoys talking about his brother and sister that are in heaven. We ask them to pray for us all the time.
 
I got the biopsy results back and there are no cancerous or precancerous cells and no infection, but the cells are disorganized which shows a hormonal imbalance. That is a load off! Thanks to all who gave me prayers. I appreciate it!
 
dkoinzan said:
I got the biopsy results back and there are no cancerous or precancerous cells and no infection, but the cells are disorganized which shows a hormonal imbalance. That is a load off! Thanks to all who gave me prayers. I appreciate it!
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That’s good news! 👍
 
dkoinzan said:
I got the biopsy results back and there are no cancerous or precancerous cells and no infection, but the cells are disorganized which shows a hormonal imbalance. That is a load off! Thanks to all who gave me prayers. I appreciate it!
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Great news! No cancer is always great news! Now maybe they know where to go from here with further testing.
 
dkoinzan said:
I got the biopsy results back and there are no cancerous or precancerous cells and no infection, but the cells are disorganized which shows a hormonal imbalance. That is a load off! Thanks to all who gave me prayers. I appreciate it!
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**So glad to hear this great news! I mean, its not fun to have hormonal problems, but thank God you are cancer free! 🙂 **
 
That is great news! So glad that cancer is one less worry (and a big one;) ).
 
For the questions on military care – wife and I had same issue with RE at Portsmouth (VA) Naval Hospital. We didn’t get to do NAPRO – just worked the NFP charts on our own and then turned to adoption after Clomid failed. The DR hoped to persuade us to get over our morals. We should have squawked at the Chaplains – in fact the Navy Chief of Chaplains was someone we both knew from our Naval Academy days. Alas, we didn’t think of that at the time. If you have major religious/moral issues, maybe get a strong Catholic chaplain on the base to help go to bat for you – and look and see what the Tricare regs are. You may be partially stuck but get to read the exact rules and go armed because we’ve come across a lot of people in the military who just guess and put out bad info.

For the suffering, I’ve posted it here before – the pain will subside. Part of it is just trying to deal with the month by month roller-coster when trying to conceive. When it got bad, I tried to offer it up as reparations for abortion… and then suck it up and be the stability for the family to to speak.

For the individual asking about some of the testing, we did Clomid which was no big deal although I think many doctors use that as a cure-all before jumping straight to IUI and IVF or other ART methods and rarely do any of the other testing. All we did as I recall from 6 years ago (a lot of details fuzzed after adoping one of the most hyper and brilliant children I’ve seen in a while – never pray for a smart child! 😉 ) was a hormone test (day 3 I think it was) and then the HSG (hysterosalpinogram – the saline injection test). That was fairly painful for the Mrs but she got through it. That helps to see if there are blockages. The other issue is getting the doc and the lab to accept the perforated condom method for checking me out which was a struggle but finally surmountable with enough insistence. Dealing with anybody in the industry is a pain in the ***** and especially in the military, but fight the good fight. God will open the right door…it may be adoption, succesful treatment, being childless … and you’ll only figure that out down the road, so just keep walking.
 
Tiber_Squid said:
For the questions on military care – wife and I had same issue with RE at Portsmouth (VA) Naval Hospital. We didn’t get to do NAPRO – just worked the NFP charts on our own and then turned to adoption after Clomid failed. The DR hoped to persuade us to get over our morals. We should have squawked at the Chaplains – in fact the Navy Chief of Chaplains was someone we both knew from our Naval Academy days. Alas, we didn’t think of that at the time. If you have major religious/moral issues, maybe get a strong Catholic chaplain on the base to help go to bat for you – and look and see what the Tricare regs are. You may be partially stuck but get to read the exact rules and go armed because we’ve come across a lot of people in the military who just guess and put out bad info.
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Tricare–what more needs to be said.:rolleyes: Honestly, in spite of all the many hassles, I have always been able to get the treatment that I have requested. This includes surgery in MO with a Napro Dr (former army) during a cross country move as well as 2 surgeries with Dr. Hilgers, who is non-network and out of region for me. The two visits I had with him included transportation, lodging and per diem for myself and a medical attendant. I still have an active referral for him and will keep it active until I either get pregnant (I have a feeling they won’t allow it at that point, but will still try) or we decide that the health problems we are still treating are completely healed or that we will no longer look for treatment. (I am afraid of not getting more treatment since I do have pain and am not prepared to say that I will live with this until I die.😉 ) BTW, our MTF has an RE whose main job is to prepare couples to go to Walter Reed for their IVF. He even agreed (and placed the referral) that I needed to see someone else!
 
How long will your doctor keep giving you medication before they give up? I took Tamoxifen again this cycle—never got to get the HCG shot because I never ovulated—and now I’m on day 40something when I’m usually 24 days. I know I should go back in to see the doctor, but I feel like it’s pointless to keep going.
 
dostoyevsky said:
How long will your doctor keep giving you medication before they give up? I took Tamoxifen again this cycle—never got to get the HCG shot because I never ovulated—and now I’m on day 40something when I’m usually 24 days. I know I should go back in to see the doctor, but I feel like it’s pointless to keep going.
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I so hear you, I am starting to feel that way.
 
Gwyn said:
I so hear you, I am starting to feel that way.
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I’m there too. I told DH and myself I would try for 12 months after my last surgery, but I’m tired of shots and blood draws and trying to be in the right city with DH at the necessary times. This month I’m on day 26 with no fertile mucus, 12 days of bleeding at the beginning and 4 days of spotting in between.
 
The funny/sad thing is I think I was ovulating before. Then last October DH and I went to a Mass where they pray for you to conceive and bless you with a St. Gerard relic. After that, I had no AF for 4 months, then AF for a whole month, then medications and now lack of ovulation and no AF. I feel like God said, “Nope.”
 
St. Gerard, please help all of these ladies and their husbands concieve and carry their children full-term, so that they have the opportunity to praise you to the Father as the joy of children in their homes and lives fill their worlds. Amen.

St. Gerard is the patron of all aspects of pregnancy.
catholic-forum.com/saints/saintg06.htm

Good luck and prayers to you all.
ChinaDad

Prayer to Saint Gerard Majella - for Motherhood
Good Saint Gerard, powerful intercessor before the throne of God, wonder-worker of our day, I call upon you and seek your aid. You know that our marriage has not as yet been blessed with a child and how much my husband and I desire this gift. Please present our fervent pleas to the Creator of life from whom all parenthood proceeds and beseech Him to bless us with a child whom we may raise as His child and heir of heaven. Amen.
 
ChinaDad, that prayer brings tears to my eyes!! Thank you for sharing. I realize the intention is for pregnancy, but it still strikes a chord with me!
 
aurora77 said:
ChinaDad, that prayer brings tears to my eyes!! Thank you for sharing. I realize the intention is for pregnancy, but it still strikes a chord with me!
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You know, in rereading that prayer, it doesn’t say anything about “carrying” a child.

Not flesh of my flesh, Nor bone of my bone,
But still miraculously my own.
Never forget for a single minute,
You didn’t grow under my heart - but in it
— Fleur Conkling Heylinger

The man whispered, “God, speak to me” and a Chickadee sang.
But, the man did not hear.
So the man yelled “God, speak to me!” And, the thunder rolled across the sky.
But, the man did not listen.
The man looked around and said, “God let me see you.” And a star shined brightly.
But the man did not notice.
And, the man shouted, “God show me a miracle!” And, a life was born.
But, the man did not know.
So, the man cried out in despair, “Touch me God, and let me know you are here!”
Whereupon, God reached down and touched the man.
But, the man brushed the butterfly away and walked on.
Don’t miss out on a blessing because it isn’t packaged the way that you expect.
 
I know previously some books were discussed on the forum as good resources regarding Infertility.

I just wanted to say that I am in the middle of *Hannah’s Hope *by Jennifer Saake. Very much worth the read. She writes from a Christian perspective, which is lovely. She does mention some items that do not hold with the Catholic Faith, but overall, I thought she did a marvelous job addressing the emotional issues for both spouses and included sections for the “burden bearers.” These would be friends, family, priests, etc. who are seeking how to love couples who face infertility. Especially good to understand how to be sensitive and supportive.

If there are any other recommendations for good reads, put up a post!!
 
**Hello all! 🙂 **
I could use some help on finding some good forums/ talk rooms/ etc for infertility. Can you help me?
I was wondering if any of you knew of larger/more active Catholic or other Christian forums (or places that I could hang out with/ chat with others) that do not support IVF, IUI, or other immoral methods, that focus primarily on infertility. Basically something kind of like CAF as a whole, but just for infertility sufferers.
Sometimes going several days, or even a week with no one to talk to about this problem gets to be too much. I am needing more frequent chats with other infertility sufferers than this thread can provide right now.
I have been hanging out at steppingstones (Part of bethany services) but I HATE that they promote IVF, IUI and other immoral methods. I would love if that forum were pro-life only, but it isn’t. The people are nice enough, many are devout Christians, though several are very misguided.
**Any links would be most appreciated. Thanks! 🙂 **
 
Convert,
I know your pain well. I always thought infertility felt like a hole in my heart. Those 7 years were the darkest of my life. I became obsessed with having a child. It was very stressful on my marriage and for my own health and well being. Prayers coming your way.

Please visit the site below. They also have a companion adoption group that is very positive and supportive.

health.groups.yahoo.com/group/catholic-fertility/
 
waitngnjyflhope said:
I know previously some books were discussed on the forum as good resources regarding Infertility.

I just wanted to say that I am in the middle of *Hannah’s Hope *by Jennifer Saake. Very much worth the read. She writes from a Christian perspective, which is lovely. She does mention some items that do not hold with the Catholic Faith, but overall, I thought she did a marvelous job addressing the emotional issues for both spouses and included sections for the “burden bearers.” These would be friends, family, priests, etc. who are seeking how to love couples who face infertility. Especially good to understand how to be sensitive and supportive.

If there are any other recommendations for good reads, put up a post!!
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Thanks for the recommendation, have just started reading it and it is awesome.
 
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