I am hopeful that that person will be at work on Christmas day, afterall…if Christmas doesn’t exist…he/she should be going to work on the holiday, even if his/her office is closed!
Well, obviously not considering The Christian Governor of Washington disagrees.
Interesting point. never thought of it that way before lol
I just think the atheists like to get a rise out of people. Anyway Iwant welcome to the forums.
Just want to say that people do in fact celebrate Christmas but sadly for all the wrong reasons. Christmas is the birth of Christ and nothing else. No Winter Solstice, no Happy Holidays, no Merry Xmas, but a good ole MERRY CHRISTMAS. It simply means the birth of our Savior.I am a hard core Christian and I had better be.I seem to recall Christ vomiting up the “lukewarm”,those neither hot nor cold.Every Catholic and non-Catholic Christian MUST be “hardcore”.
Soutane, check out my new thread Eucharistic Miracles about a priest celebrating a Latin Rite Mass…
Of course Atheists exist. But you’ve almost got the idea, here.
Every person thinks about God, a god, or a number of gods at some point in their lives. However, Atheists are generally sincere in there beliefs that there is no God.You misunderstood me.
The hardcore Christians I’m talking about are extremists like Pat Robertson or worse. :sad_yes:
Still, the only reason, I believe, it’s accepted as far as it is is because people celebrate it for the wrong reasons. Most people, when they think Christmas, Santa Claus and gifts come to mind, not the birth of Jesus, although Jesus is still important in Christmas.I just think the atheists like to get a rise out of people. Anyway Iwant welcome to the forums.
Typical.No matter what you say, no matter how you want to try to get around this, no matter how you say anything about this Federal Holiday at all, it remains one thing clear
There are more Christians than non-Christians in this nation. But with the current “politically correct” mindset that is strangling our freedom to proclaim our moral values, many people are afraid to speak of Christmas as the celebration of our Lord’s birth. This being said, I believe that most people, when they think of Christmas, think of our Lord Jesus. During this season of Advent, I find myself praying many times a day. Nearly every time I see Christmas lights, store Christmas displays, retail sale signs, etc., I think about Jesus, not about Santa and gifts. Sadly, I feel pressured to internalize rather than proclaim what this means to me. I suspect many, many people in our nation are experiencing the same thing.
I did not dispute that fact. I was simply trying to explain that most people do not treat it that way, and were we to take the people who treated it only as such then it would be such a thin layer, Christianity would no longer be a national holiday because of how few people treat it that way.
Then where did god come from? If I understand you correctly, the fact that nobody knows where god came from would mean Christians can’t start from square one either.
possibly true, and you might have a hate crime case there, BUT that would also make evangelising FOR your christ a hate crime too as the intent of it is to sow doubt in the individual’s mind about the assurance of their salvation/truth of religion.
Actually, Diwali, Winter Solstice, Hannukkah (a minor festival, but still, a festival), Kwanzaa and New Years all can fall (but don’t always due to the irregularity of the lunar calendar) during the winter holidays (and a new one, Festivus, which I thought was a joke, but maybe not). That’s the reason many people say Good Holiday rather than singling out any one religious event.
No, not true. Time is a part of creation (therefore everything in creation has to have a beginning in time). The Creator is not a part of Creation, and is therefore outside of time (thus not necessitating a beginning).