Insulting Christmas

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The Treaty of Tripoli is interesting, in this context:
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation,it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religiousopinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existingbetween the two countries.
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Emphasis added.
 
elts1956 said:
3.Ujima (oo-GEE-mah) Collective Work and Responsibility reminds us of our obligation to the past, present and future, and that we have a role to play in the community, society, and world.
4.Ujamaa (oo-JAH-mah) Cooperative economics emphasizes our collective economic strength and encourages us to meet common needs through mutual support.
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in other words: Communism.

No seriously, Karenga was a communist and a wife-beater. And supposedly also insane.
 
Lujack said:
Really? So Martin Luther King Day is more important than the Feast of the Immaculate Conception?
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I think their point was that to a Catholic, Catholic holidays trump civic holidays.
 
Matariel said:
I think their point was that to a Catholic, Catholic holidays trump civic holidays.
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Really? The way I read it, he was arguing that Christmas being a federal holiday made it more important than anything else, but I could have been wrong.
 
Let them fall over the floor laughing. It is God who will have the last laugh. December 25 is not an “American” Christmas holiday, but a day THE WORLD celebrates the CORRECT time of Jesus. Especially Catholics who realize Catholicism is the religion from Christ.
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
Let them fall over the floor laughing. It is God who will have the last laugh. December 25 is not an “American” Christmas holiday, but a day THE WORLD celebrates the CORRECT time of Jesus. Especially Catholics who realize Catholicism is the religion from Christ.
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Then why cite Christmas as a federal holiday if that’s not important?
 
Lujack said:
Then why cite Christmas as a federal holiday if that’s not important?
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Perhaps because Christmas is “what” we celebrate… the Birth of Jesus.

and the federal holiday is one way “how” we celebrate… and not nearly as important or inspiring as Midnight or Christmas Day Mass.

I celebrate “what” with honor to God…

Others may celebrate “how” by sleeping in.

🤷
 
MrS said:
Perhaps because Christmas is “what” we celebrate… the Birth of Jesus.

and the federal holiday is one way “how” we celebrate… and not nearly as important or inspiring as Midnight or Christmas Day Mass.

I celebrate “what” with honor to God…

Others may celebrate “how” by sleeping in.

🤷
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Let me rephrase that: Why make a big deal about Christmas being a federal holiday, if its status as a federal holiday is not important?
 
Matariel said:
in other words: Communism.No seriously, Karenga was a communist and a wife-beater. And supposedly also insane.
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.Ujima (oo-GEE-mah) Collective Work and Responsibility reminds us of our obligation to the past, present and future, and that we have a role to play in the community, society, and world.
4.Ujamaa (oo-JAH-mah) Cooperative economics emphasizes our collective economic strength and encourages us to meet common needs through mutual support

Or an early Christian Community. I think the crux of the matter is giving a source of pride for a group of people to work and live together. It doesn’t mean folks following these steps are going to overthrow a system of government.
 
Really? Well then Rome, and other countries who do celebrate Christmas on December 25th are wrong too? What are the holidays of other faiths that have any significance whatsoever besides the birth of Christ? All other faiths celebrate the birth of Christ, what are you getting at? Kwanza? Hannukah? Dwigli? Do you have no work and are all government and stores closed as on Christmas day? I don’t think so…Christmas day is a day of celebrating the birth of Jesus, a day where everything is closed. Including Dunkin donuts…😃
 
No kidding about Rome being a Capital City, did you hear me say it wasn’t? I don’t really care who you worked with as far as Muslim or otherwise. It is what it is. CHRISTMAS DAY IS DECEMBER 25 ALL OVER THE WORLD, maybe not your world…
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
No kidding about Rome being a Capital City, did you hear me say it wasn’t? I don’t really care who you worked with as far as Muslim or otherwise. It is what it is. CHRISTMAS DAY IS DECEMBER 25 ALL OVER THE WORLD, maybe not your world…
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Christmas Day is December 25 in places where it is celebrated, yes, but the Orthodox and the Russians don’t have the same December 25th. They use a different calendar.
 
Lujack said:
Christmas Day is December 25 in places where it is celebrated, yes, but the Orthodox and the Russians don’t have the same December 25th. They use a different calendar.
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Ok, but since Jesus established the Catholic faith, I will go by that thank you.
 
That response is a response to let you know that I will not argue with you. You are looking for one and I refuse to give you one. Just keep nitpicking it apart until you are convinced you are correct…go ahead…I’ll let you do it all on your own. :rolleyes:
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
Ok, but since Jesus established the Catholic faith, I will go by that thank you.
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Yeah, Christ did establish the Catholic faith, but he didn’t establish the Gregorian Calendar (or the Julian Calendar for that matter), and although the Church uses the Gregorian one, it doesn’t use it in a dogmatic way.
 
Lujack said:
Yeah, Christ did establish the Catholic faith, but he didn’t establish the Gregorian Calendar (or the Julian Calendar for that matter), and although the Church uses the Gregorian one, it doesn’t use it in a dogmatic way.
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Doesn’t matter if the church chose June 5, nor would it matter if the church chose October 12. We need a date for the celebration of Christ’s birth. What is the issue here??? Catholics celebrate the 25th of December in Italy, Croatia, Australia, Iraq, etc…all over the world.
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
Doesn’t matter if the church chose June 5, nor would it matter if the church chose October 12. We need a date for the celebration of Christ’s birth. What is the issue here??? Catholics celebrate the 25th of December in Italy, Croatia, Australia, Iraq, etc…all over the world.
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You don’t get it. Churches on the Julian Calendar celebrate Christmas on the 25th, too, but because they didn’t make the changes that the Julian Calendar did, the Julian December 25th is not the same day as the Gregorian one.
 
Lujack said:
You don’t get it. Churches on the Julian Calendar celebrate Christmas on the 25th, too, but because they didn’t make the changes that the Julian Calendar did, the Julian December 25th is not the same day as the Gregorian one.
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**Oh I get it alright, I get this ridiculous nitpicking about the birth of Christ…who cares? It is what it is…geez…🤷 **
 
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