Is America too divided?

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What if we instead found a common friend, i.e. a common cause? Aren’t we ALL sick of lobbyists and billionaires purchasing policies?
 
Ann_Stanton said:
I have just heard about the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting. It is awful that our president says that the synagogue should have had an armed guard. We should not blame the victims for the crime. Yes, my church has police officers during Mass only. The 2 police officers would not be able to prevent a shooting. They would do their best to prevent loss of life.
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He did not blame the victims…the press asked about gun laws…his response was if there had been an armed guard it would have been much different.

Go watch the interview, see for yourself. I watched it live and he in no way blamed anyone but the gunman in the strongest terms.
I just rewatched it again and the media is editing it in such a way as to make it fit their narrative.

Now all the alphabet news outlets are spinning it as if the president is blaming victims.

Please, please do not contribute to hysteria…you can dislike and disagree with the President but you do not need to help propagate the unbridled hatred.
 
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We’ve got one Party (Democrats) trying to fundamentally change America by advancing infanticide, euthanasia of senior citizens, open borders, squashing individual liberty by advancing the powerful central government of socialism, squashing religious liberty by forcing us to act against Catholic Doctrine, and increasing the amount of poor people by advancing socialism.
The other Party (Republican) is certainly not perfect, but they’re pretty good. Republicans try to stop abortion, infanticide, and euthanasia. Republicans believe in law and order, protecting American citizens from internal and external attacks, conscience protection, a thriving economy with free markets that ultimately reduces the amount of poor people, supporting religious liberty and peace through strength.
For these reasons, the good guys should not back down when free America is being attacked by the bad guys.
 
It suggests that I should have to live in a society full of guns everywhere I go just so that the people who want to run around with them can do so. I have no use for guns and don’t want them at my chruch, in my schools and so on. Those of us who don’t want to relive the wild West have rights too.
 
Is America too divided?

Yes.

This post could be Exhibit A:
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We’ve got one Party (Democrats) trying to fundamentally change America by advancing infanticide, euthanasia of senior citizens, open borders, squashing individual liberty by advancing the powerful central government of socialism, squashing religious liberty by forcing us to act against Catholic Doctrine, and increasing the amount of poor people by advancing socialism.
The other Party (Republican) is certainly not perfect, but they’re pretty good. Republicans try to stop abortion, infanticide, and euthanasia. Republicans believe in law and order, protecting American citizens from internal and external attacks, conscience protection, a thriving economy with free markets that ultimately reduces the amount of poor people, supporting religious liberty and peace through strength.
For these reasons, the good guys should not back down when free America is being attacked by the bad guys.
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Yes it could be. Huge difference between the 2 Parties. Thanks.
 
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Thanks, but I meant that the polarization exemplified by your post (the one I quoted above) is not a good thing. I agree with you that the United States is seriously disordered, but the Good Guys vs. Bad Guys mentality is not going to solve the problem. I am pretty sure that Good Guys vs. Bad Guys is guaranteed to fail. When you convince yourself that approximately half of your countrymen are Bad Guys, no good can come of it. If you want to save babies, as I do, we will need to try something else.
 
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I guess I kind of agree with you on my good guy/bad guy thing, but don’t you think it’s abundantly clear which Party has America’s best interests at heart more?
 
No. In my opinion, the Republican Party pays lip service to the good, while they have their own selfish interests at heart, mainly their own power and wealth.

Sure, they got Justice Kavanaugh, a long-awaited victory, but largely symbolic. Now what?
 
First, let’s define what the obvious and basic ones are. People can’t even seem to agree on those.
 
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the Republican Party
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Just to be clear, I mean Republican politicians, along with their staff, advisors, and lobbyists. I have nothing against those who vote either Republican or Democrat. The voters are gullible, but not evil.
 
Ann_Stanton said:
I have just heard about the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting. It is awful that our president says that the synagogue should have had an armed guard. We should not blame the victims for the crime. Yes, my church has police officers during Mass only. The 2 police officers would not be able to prevent a shooting. They would do their best to prevent loss of life.
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The synagogue I attend does have an armed guard, 24/7. However, it is a large synagogue, and as you may know, members of a synagogue pay for their membership. (Those who truly cannot pay, however, are granted membership free of charge.) I realize some smaller churches, and even smaller synagogues, won’t have the money to pay armed guards. It’s a shame it’s come to this, but I believe the safety of the those who come to worship should be primary. There are too many guns in circulation to ensure that safety without having an armed guard. And yes, I am one who would take away guns from all but LE and the military, at least assault weapons. No one outside LE or the military needs an assault weapon.
 
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No. In my opinion, the Republican Party pays lip service to the good, while they have their own selfish interests at heart, mainly their own power and wealth.
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Of course they have their own interests at heart or they would unite in telling Trump to tone down his hate speech. But no, they want his voters to re-elect them.

There are and were a few good politicians out there, though. McCain, I believe, had the best interests of Americans at heart, and so does Obama. I think Joe Biden does as well as Ohio governor, John Kasich. I don’t agree 100% with any of them, but one is never going to agree 100% with another.
 
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Yes, America is too divided because their ought to be unity in the world rather than division. That being said I’m not sure if it’s really as new or different as people think it is. I should dig up the links, but there are records from the 18th century shortly after the War of Independence of Thomas Jefferson and his rival presidential candidate essentially saying that if the other one was elected, there would be blood on the streets and the apocalypse. They tear into each other with fierce dialogue that equally rivals what you see between Trump and his opponents.

Statesman and journalists and figures of influence tearing into each other is nothing new.

If something is different, it’s that random citizens can now access social media and become intimately involved in discussions that don’t concern them. We have a grossly elevated sense of self-importance, but I’m not sure if that’s really at all new either. It’s just more visible than it used to be. These discussions now take place on Twitter instead of on the porch or in the tavern.
 
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