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The separation of spouses while maintaining the marriage bond can be legitimate in certain cases provided for by canon law.
If civil divorce remains the only possible way of ensuring certain legal rights, the care of the children, or the protection of inheritance, it can be tolerated and does not constitute a moral offense.
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It can happen that one of the spouses is the innocent victim of a divorce decreed by civil law; this spouse therefore has not contravened the moral law. There is a considerable difference between a spouse who has sincerely tried to be faithful to the sacrament of marriage and is unjustly abandoned, and one who through his own grave fault destroys a canonically valid marriage.
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sidbrown
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This is true.
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kepha1
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It is the job a marriage tribunal in an annulment proceeding to prove or disprove the validity of Bill Donohue’s marriage, not anyone here. Quoting the catechism on marriage is irrelevant for that reason, and whether or not Bill as applied for an annulment is not known, and as far as I am concerned, it is no ones business and it has nothing to do with the work he does.
Having read all ten pages of this thread, I find it interesting that only one link from his web site has been posted, and the nay-sayers seem to depend on what the anti-Catholic media have to say about Bill Donohue. Shame on them.
Latest news releases:
http://www.catholicleague.org/release_quarter.php?year=2010&month_begin=4&month_end=6
People attack the Church for what they THINK she teaches, in light of that,
people attack Bill Donohue for what they THINK he says. If people would actually READ what the Catholic League actually says, they might reconsider what it is they THINK they don’t like about Bill Donohue.
more news releases
http://www.catholicleague.org/release_quarter.php?year=2010&month_begin=1&month_end=3
I support Bill Donohue and the Catholic League because
I am opposed to slanderous media attacks on the Pope.
I am opposed to orchestrated media attacks persecuting the Catholic Church.
A communist regime that killed 77 million people should never be honored in America while Mother Theresa is ignored.
Statue of limitations on alleged child abuse victims should be the same for public and private insitutions, instead of passing laws making it easier to stick it to the Church while public institutions get away with it.
Not once has Bill donohue ever made excuses for errant priests or bishops. It’s the FACTS that the media does’t like.
As for those who don’t like his style, you need to open your eyes. He is fighting for religious and civil rights. You don’t go to war with pillows and foam bats or no one willl take you seriously.
“MOTHER F—KING TERESA” COURTESY OF VIACOM
This is one reason why we need Bill Donohue, and to those who think he is bad for the Church, please post how you think Catholics can best respond to such TV shows. And please don’t tell me Jesus teaches us to be doormats, or that we should just let the bishops do all the work.
Having read all ten pages of this thread, I find it interesting that only one link from his web site has been posted, and the nay-sayers seem to depend on what the anti-Catholic media have to say about Bill Donohue. Shame on them.
Latest news releases:
http://www.catholicleague.org/release_quarter.php?year=2010&month_begin=4&month_end=6
People attack the Church for what they THINK she teaches, in light of that,
people attack Bill Donohue for what they THINK he says. If people would actually READ what the Catholic League actually says, they might reconsider what it is they THINK they don’t like about Bill Donohue.
more news releases
http://www.catholicleague.org/release_quarter.php?year=2010&month_begin=1&month_end=3
I support Bill Donohue and the Catholic League because
I am opposed to slanderous media attacks on the Pope.
I am opposed to orchestrated media attacks persecuting the Catholic Church.
A communist regime that killed 77 million people should never be honored in America while Mother Theresa is ignored.
Statue of limitations on alleged child abuse victims should be the same for public and private insitutions, instead of passing laws making it easier to stick it to the Church while public institutions get away with it.
Not once has Bill donohue ever made excuses for errant priests or bishops. It’s the FACTS that the media does’t like.
As for those who don’t like his style, you need to open your eyes. He is fighting for religious and civil rights. You don’t go to war with pillows and foam bats or no one willl take you seriously.
“MOTHER F—KING TERESA” COURTESY OF VIACOM
This is one reason why we need Bill Donohue, and to those who think he is bad for the Church, please post how you think Catholics can best respond to such TV shows. And please don’t tell me Jesus teaches us to be doormats, or that we should just let the bishops do all the work.
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What is the communist regime that killed 77 million people?
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Aquinas62
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This is a start. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism
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convert_2000
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I agree on all of your points, very well said!
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estesbob
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Peter denied Christ 3 times. Have you ripped the Letter of Peter out of your Bible? Paul participated in the murder of St Stephen. Do you reject all of his writings?
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sidbrown
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No. Because there is no such article. The question only concerns a possible reduction in credibility.
Suppose a holy perosn with a stature similar to Blessed Mother Thresa tells us how terrible is the exploitation of children today in certain parts of the world, and this living saint asks us to send her money so that she can combat it and establish an orphanage for these children. Her crediblitiy is high and many charitable people of good will would be inclined to send in a contribution.
Suppose now that a convicted child rapist and killer of three children had escaped from prison into another country which does not have an extradition treaty with the USA. He then presents himself as someone who finds the exploitation of children to be a terrible tragedy and asks us to send in a contribution so that he can set up an orphanage for exploited children. His credibility is low, and most people would be inclined to refuse his request on the basis of his damaged credibility.
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Suppose a person claims to believe Jesus Chirst is the Son of God but denies him three times? He then asks people to follow Jesus .His credibility is low, and most people would be inclined to refuse his request on the basis of his damaged credibility. Correct?
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In other words, Guy, you were using Mr.Donohue’s no-nonsense approach to dealing with the situation.I was trying to get into the Presence of Jesus.
I couldn’t though with the distractions being caused by the group of teenagers sitting directly in front of me.
Others around were ‘‘tutting’’ and throwing glances at them but noone was saying anything to them.
Yes, I did tell them to shut up and remember where they were and show some respect.
I said shut up because that’s what I wanted them to do.
I could have said, ‘‘Hi guys, Im really sorry to interject here in your little group discussion while Mass is going on, but do you think, when it’s convenient, you could possible turn it down a little, or perhaps simply focus on the alter and maybe leave the chatting until Mass is finished as you are causing a major distraction to myself and others- if you don’t mind, of course’’
But my style is to keep it short, simple and to the point.I wanted them to show some respect and shut up. So that’s what I told them to do
Sometimes there’s no other way…
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TexCatholic4JMJ
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Yesterday at Mass, there was an audible whispering going on when our priest began the
homily. He started the homily, but then stopped, looked in the direction of the whispering,
and just looked (for at least a minute or two) until finally the talking stopped. The other
priest just raises his voice and keeps going. I prefer the first, I think Bill Donohue would
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homily. He started the homily, but then stopped, looked in the direction of the whispering,
and just looked (for at least a minute or two) until finally the talking stopped. The other
priest just raises his voice and keeps going. I prefer the first, I think Bill Donohue would
also.
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As I have said in previous posts, I am happy that Bill Donahue i sthere to defnd the church. BUT – he is making a total fool out of himself and Catholic with the Empire State Building/ Mother Teresa issue.
While I agree that Mother Teresa is being slighted in that the buildings owners will not honour her, even though they honoured the People’s Republic of China, the Catholic League’s approach to the situation is an embrassment. of the13 news releases in the past 10 days, 7 have been about this issue with the last 9 being cookie-cutter
As I have said before, when places like fark.com attacked Mother Teresa, Bill Donahue was silent when I contacted the League by phone. Now he is is merely acting like a swaggering drunk.
God bless
Tony
While I agree that Mother Teresa is being slighted in that the buildings owners will not honour her, even though they honoured the People’s Republic of China, the Catholic League’s approach to the situation is an embrassment. of the13 news releases in the past 10 days, 7 have been about this issue with the last 9 being cookie-cutter
WESTERN BISHOPS IN THE U.S. CONTACTED; MOTHER TERESA CAMPAIGN CONTINUES May 24, 2010
U.S. BISHOPS IN THE MIDWEST CONTACTED; MOTHER TERESA CAMPAIGN CONTINUES May 21, 2010
SOUTHERN BISHOPS IN THE U.S. CONTACTED; MOTHER TERESA CAMPAIGN CONTINUES May 20, 2010
U.S. BISHOPS IN THE NORTHEAST CONTACTED; MOTHER TERESA CAMPAIGN CONTINUES May 19, 2010
GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS IN INDIA CONTACTED; MOTHER TERESA CAMPAIGN CONTINUES May 18, 2010
BISHOPS FROM INDIA CONTACTED: MOTHER TERESA CAMPAIGN CONTINUES May 17, 2010
MOTHER TERESA’S ORDER CONTACTED: WORLDWIDE CAMPAIGN BEGINS May 14, 2010
What is he going to release next, Hindu temples in Maine contacted? This is serving no purpose except to make him, and him alone, out to be the champion of this campaign.As I have said before, when places like fark.com attacked Mother Teresa, Bill Donahue was silent when I contacted the League by phone. Now he is is merely acting like a swaggering drunk.
God bless
Tony
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Onyx88
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excellent post indeedExcellent post.
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TexCatholic4JMJ
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I don’t see contacting different organizations in a public way to show the latter comment
about his actions. “swaggering drunk”
I usually dismiss the statement before a "BUT.
Are you always going to be upset by the fact that the League did not pay attention to your
complaint? There could have been many reasons. Have you reported other events?
Were they equally dismissed? Maybe you could contact them now in light of this event
and ask them why they didn’t defend the issue you brought up.
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sidbrown
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ANd this is not the only issue where he appears to be unsophisticated.
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Aquinas62
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so the peoples republic of china should be honored by an american icon, but mother theresa is ignored?
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Guyonthestreet
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Me and Bill…In other words, Guy, you were using Mr.Donohue’s no-nonsense approach to dealing with the situation.
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