Is Christ Spiritually Present in Protestant Communion? (POLL)

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I believe that Christ is spiritually present at their services. If this service happens to include communion he is present but I don’t think in a different way than if they don’t have communion since it’s only a way of remembering his sacrifice and nothing more.

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
 
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WhiteDove:
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There are so many denominations with differing beliefs on this subject I suppose the blanket answer would be yes, no, and maybe.
 
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Katholikos:
Puhleeeeeze! What is your authority for these statements?

True - most protestants don’t have a clue about what the Catholic Church teaches, but that doesn’t stop them from attributing outrageous beliefs to the Church and repeating these erroneous beliefs authoritatively at every opportunity, as if they were experts in the matter.

And – most are against it and uneducated about it.

To paraphrase Bishop Sheen, they hate what they wrongly believe the Catholic Church to be and hate what they wrongly think she teaches. Yes, I do mean “hate.” Been there, done that.

The Catholic Church was founded by Christ and teaches what the Apostles taught. No more, no less.

JMJ Jay
Ex-Southern Baptist, ex-agnostic, ex-atheist, ecstatic to be Catholic!
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Please yourself. You are making a generlized accusation based on something I think you know very little about. If you have had an experience with a protestant that hated Catholics, that is unfortunate. But I’m afraid you are swinging the other way…a Catholic who hates protestants.
 
God is omnipresent meaning that He is everywhere. But Jesus is not present in Protestant Communion because a Protestant minister does not have the ability to transubstanciate. In fact if all the Catholic people in our church wanted to recieve communion using unconcecrated species Jesus would not be present there either.

Only a concecrated priest ordained by a bishop that is a decendant of the apostles has the power to transform bread and wine into the body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ.

I personally have always felt sad for people who gather together to praise Jesus and are unable to receive Him into their bodies and souls because they are only practicing symbolic worship. I pray that someday our estranged brothers and sister who are without the consolation of the sacraments can someday return to the true faith and true sacrament.
 
Thank you for your reply StephaniePea.

Now…let’s think about what God sees.

Is it better to take communion regularly (either from a Protestant or Catholic church) or to walk the path of Jesus? If you had to choose one, which do you think God would prefer?

Further: would a soul be excluded from heaven solely on the grounds that he/she never took the communion that was blessed through a hierarchy of Catholic officials?

Even more interesting, what happens to people who are not Catholic who sneak into the line and take communion? Are they saved or eternally damned, or neither?

Also, Jesus is the son of God. God created the world and everything in it. The holy spirit is also in everything and everyone. If this is true, why would Jesus not be present at AND in any communion?
 
For the record I will say that I vote yes, Jesus is present. Regarding the fact that He is most definitely present in the Eucharist, and in other places I respectfully ask the following question:

So what?

What if he is present but we aren’t aware of it? What if he is present but we don’t hear his words? What if he is present but we don’t understand his message? What if we here his message but wordly anxiety drives away any meaningful response we may give to that presence.

Consider that Mary and Martha were both in his actual, real, spiritural, physical presence, but only Mary received the better portion.

Consider the centurion who didn’t even need him to be present at his house in order to have faith that his servant would be healed.

The kingdom of God is for those who hear the word of God and keep it.

May we all strive for diligence in hearing and keeping that word.

peace

-Jim
 
"For the record I will say that I vote yes, Jesus is present. Regarding the fact that He is most definitely present in the Eucharist, and in other places I respectfully ask the following question:

So what?"

Dear Friend in Christ,

Why would Christ choose to make himself preeminently present to us in the Eucharist if it wasn’t important?

*Why do we, as Catholic Christians, particularly reverence **His Real Presence *in the Eucharist?

*Why do we, as Catholic Christians, have the devotional practice of Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament in Exposition, encouraged so strongly by our current pope? *

I submit that the fact of Christ’s Real Presence, his preeminent presence, in the Eucharist, is of utmost importance, and is, in fact, the greatest gift we as Catholic Christians are blessed to have.

Yours in Christ,

*Jan E.
 
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janle:
Why would Christ choose to make himself preeminently present to us in the Eucharist if it wasn’t important?

I submit that the fact of Christ’s Real Presence, his preeminent presence, in the Eucharist, is of utmost importance, and is, in fact, the greatest gift we as Catholic Christians are blessed to have.

Yours in Christ,

*Jan E.
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Jesus fundamental purpose is stated clearly in the three synoptic gospels, “To preach the good news of God’s kingdom.” And similarly in John’s gospel: “To bear witness to the Truth.”

I am certain that Jesus’s purpose in giving us the Eucharist is the same as his purpose for his entire life - To continue in the world the purpose stated above.

The greatest reverence we can give to His presence is to listen to his words and to make them a part of our lives. If our participation in the Eucharist and our adoration of it does not lead us to a greater understanding and living out of God’s kingdom then Jesus’s presence does not benefit us.

peace,

-Jim
 
I heard a story a priest shared with me. He attended a Lutheran service complete with"communion" and when the service was over the wine went down the drain, and the hosts were fed to ducks. When he inquired, the Lutheran pastor said, "we believe He is only in the bread and wine for a little while; during the service.

As Catholics we are supposed to believe that once He’s in there, he remains, and once we recieve Him, we become like little tabernacles
{hopefully} bringing Christ to those we meet.

Thanks for the great question.
 
If the Catholic position is correct, then God is deeply offended by Protestant Communion, and in some ways Orthodox, because the deny the Pontiff. It would seem the Protestant Communion is a sick, twisted view of the One True Church. Jesus is not present in Protestant Communion and is offended by their arrogance. Of course maybe God sees beyond your view but that is just my point. If the Catholic view is true, then protestant Communion is truly evil and mocking of God.
 
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briand:
If the Catholic position is correct, then God is deeply offended by Protestant Communion, and in some ways Orthodox, because the deny the Pontiff. It would seem the Protestant Communion is a sick, twisted view of the One True Church. Jesus is not present in Protestant Communion and is offended by their arrogance. Of course maybe God sees beyond your view but that is just my point. If the Catholic view is true, then protestant Communion is truly evil and mocking of God.
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CCC 1400

Ecclesial communities derived from the Reformation and separated from the Catholic Church, “have not preserved the proper reality of the Eucharistic mystery in its fullness, especially because of the absence of the sacrament of Holy Orders.” It is for this reason that, for the Catholic Church, Eucharistic intercommunion with these communities is not possible. However these ecclesial communities, “when they commemorate the Lord’s death and resurrection in the Holy Supper . . . profess that it signifies life in communion with Christ and await his coming in glory.”
 
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JGC:
CCC 1400

Ecclesial communities derived from the Reformation and separated from the Catholic Church, “have not preserved the proper reality of the Eucharistic mystery in its fullness, especially because of the absence of the sacrament of Holy Orders.” It is for this reason that, for the Catholic Church, Eucharistic intercommunion with these communities is not possible. However these ecclesial communities, “when they commemorate the Lord’s death and resurrection in the Holy Supper . . . profess that it signifies life in communion with Christ and await his coming in glory.”
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First of all, I hope you and your family are doing well. That makes no sense at all. It seems that if the Catholic Church is what it says it is, any group that deviates from that is an enemy of God, His Church, and leading souls into grievous error. Im not saying this to individuals but the groups. We, non Catholics, may profess such but we are not Eating his Flesh and thus our communions have no life. I find the CCC contradicts other statements of the CC. But I wont go any further it is at this point where the arguments start and I do not wish to frustrate. Have a nice day.
 
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WhiteDove:
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There are far too many conditions violeted in the protestant communiton for Christ to be present.The most obvious one is that the priest does not intend for Him to be present.This is also a blessing in disguise.It avoids the possible misuse of the blessed Sacrament.
 
He’s present spiritually in spite of the Protestant communion not because of it.
 
When a christian recieves Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and makes that committment to walk in His Love he has the Spirit of the Living God in Him. We become the Temple of the Living God. Jesus lives in us. Why are we looking for what is in us already?.Thats why I believe it is a spiritual union and remembrence for what the Lord did on that day. Thank you Jesus for sheeding your Prescious Blood on the cross for us. 👍
 
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JGC:
Another book I read by a convert from the Cof E said

‘Our Lord may be present in the lord’s supper in protestant Churches. But in the Catholic Church you can be sure he is present.’
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Very good. We know in the Catholic Eucharist we have the presence of the Lord because such was promised to us. But I would caution anyone to putting limits on God’s love. When a group of sincere and baptized Christians gather in fellowship and prayer and affirmation of the Church’s historic Creed, place in their midst the elements of bread and wine and bid God for the Sacrament of the Holy Communion, who are we to say God does not answer their prayer?
 
Well, katherine, since most of the protestant groups do not recognize the “Lord’s Supper” AS a sacrament, that would pretty much preclude Him being PRESENT as a sacrament.

God does not do the impossible. He cannot make a boulder so large that He could not move it, for example, because that sort of impossibility is ridiculous, and God is not ridiculous.

It is pretty clear in the Catechism what is required for a VALID sacrament. Even in our own Catholic church, if the priest were to offer up chips and soda, God would NOT be present in the chips and soda, not even if the priest really, REALLY wanted Him to be.

Valid matter, valid priesthood. Remember, God’s ways are “above our ways” doesn’t mean that, well, God is SO good that He’ll ignore any silly old RULES we have here on earth and just make everybody happy even if they aren’t conforming to His rules. That makes God into some sort of sap, IMO. It makes Him untrustworthy, and He is all trust. It makes Him arbitrary, and He is all just.

I’d be a little less inclined to the hearts-and-flowers, God only wants us all to be happy. . .and a little more inclined to the, “Be merciful to me, Lord, a sinner” outlook. God doesn’t OWE us anything. If we do His will, we’re just doing what we are SUPPOSED to do. . .why should we get any special treatment? We are his servants. Yes, we are adopted children as well, but children don’t tell their parents what to do, and children need love that is disciplined. I might my child, but if I didn’t move him away from a hot burner because I didn’t want to make him angry or upset, and he got burned, how loving am I, really?
 
Christ is not present in Protestant communion, anyway do they believe in Transubstantiation ?

The power do do this was handed from Jesus to the Apostles right down to the present day, so I’ll go with no.
 
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