Is cultural marxism just a myth or conspiracy theory created by right wing conservatives?

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why so many Americans consider it to be an immanent threat
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From what I can see, it is a more insidious evil, snake like in fact. Some people can see it. The fact that some cant see it, is a concern. Because it means communism (through cultural Marxism), will gain a stronger foothold without many noticing it.
 
How will “Cultural Marxism” bring about communism? How will diversity quotas, divorce, gay marriage, and trans people bring about communism?

It’s simply a conspiracy theory. Before the notion of “Cultural Marxism” right-wing conspiracy theorists who predicted that every social movement was going to bring about a tyrannical totalitarian dictatorship were laughed at. Now it seems to be a common belief on the right, at least in the US.
I am too. There’s a good reason to be afraid of Communism. Because it is one of Satan’s ideaologies.
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I understand why you dislike communism, I just don’t understand why you believe it is an immanent threat. How will “Cultural Marxism” lead to communism?
 
It’s a term, like so many others on the internet, designed to shut down honest discussion. Don’t like what someone is saying? Call them a cultural Marxist and end the debate right there. It’s the right-wing equivalent to just randomly calling someone a fascist to shut them up.
 
Pretty much. I hate when people use flat accusations to try and silence people, rather than debate. Even if at the end, you can only agree to disagree at least you’re trying to have a real discussion.
 
The one thing I would say though is we need to use labels such as “relativism**” and "modernism" as they tend to work against traditional Catholic Church values and doctrine.
 
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As was mentioned earlier, it’s essentially cultural/moral relativism and “grass-is-greener” syndrome, especially as applied to anything deemed as “euro-Christian.”

Basically among the intelligentsia, even moderates are now considered “alt-right” and lumped in with the nazbol types who put fetishized racialism above creed. It’s an ugly trap.
 
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I was beginning to think that everyone agreed with the definition. Now I see that people like yourself don’t like the definition.
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One doesn’t have to be a rocket scientist to see that the definition above is a gunny sack full of unrelated stuff. Labels are okay. If a Democrat is a democrat, then there is an accurate label.

This is a case of using a label as an argument, and thus is it empty rhetoric. It really should be obvious to anyone who knows anything about Marxism that most of the stuff called cultural Marxism has nothing to do with Marxism. The adjective “cultural” is added just to make the term squishy and vague so it can be an all-encompassing insult. If Democrats had thought of it first, they could have called Trump supporter, or the Tea-Party before him, cultural fascists.

I think the use of the word “liberal” has run its course outside of preaching to the choir. Something new and catchy was needed. “Cultural marxism” is the New Coke.
 
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The one thing I would say though is we need to use labels such as “relativism**” and “modernism” as they tend to work against traditional Catholic Church values and doctrine.
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These are good terms in the rare cases they are used accurately. Unfortunately, I see the term applied such positions as application of moral theology that another disagrees with, the principle of mitigating ignorance, and relativism about things that really are relative (music, for example).

Likewise, modernism is mostly used as a meaning something not traditional. Here is the oath against modernisn:

The Oath Against Modernism

Note that it is not modernism to have one aspect that might appear to be in conflict with one of these points. For example, one cannot claim that someone is being a modernist for using a rational approach to Scripture interpretation, as there is neither belief that only the rational exists or a denial in the divine in Scripture.
 
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One doesn’t have to be a rocket scientist to see that the definition above is a gunny sack full of unrelated stuff. Labels are okay. If a Democrat is a democrat, then there is an accurate label
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DarkLight said:
For example, I think if I said “differences in behavior between races are a result of cultural and historic factors, not innate racial tendencies,” few people on here would disagree with me.
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Thank you - that’s the point I was trying to make. The definition is so broad it can be applied to pretty much anything that says that there’s inequality between two groups that’s caused by cultural factors, especially if they propose any sort of solution.
 
Consider:

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals - Read into Congressional Record in 1963

You are about to read a list of 45 goals that found their way down the halls of our great Capitol back in 1963. As you read this, 39 years later, you should be shocked by the events that have played themselves out.

http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm
 
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The problem is, cultural Marxism is a derogatory label for any idea that supports the common good like free health care… In other words the word is a jab at anything that hinders absolute privatization in my opinion… It’s an attempt to demonize any attempt to make a good world for all people at the expense of the market, because the common good is viewed as an attack on those who stand to profit the most. .So if they can make it seem like you are are a Marxist just for caring about your brothers and sisters and supporting policies that would mean taxing those with more so that those with less don’t fall into destitute poverty, they instead will look like the real victims rather than the greedy poor people who just want a chance to have real opportunities in life… That’s how they garner support, even from those who stand to lose, because apparently taxing the rich is the same thing as stealing. .

So yes, to an extent cultural Maxism is a fallacy invented by right wing conservatives in order to control taxes in their favor and how that money is distributed.
 
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Seems it just depends on your political leanings. If you are on the right, it is a legitimate term, if you are on the left, it is just a term of vilification.
 
Well obviously. That says nothing for whether it’s a useful or valid term, and in the case of the people making a positive claim about some kind of conscious drive to propagate “Cultural Marxism”, nothing about whether or not it’s true.
 
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Seems it just depends on your political leanings. If you are on the right, it is a legitimate term, if you are on the left, it is just a term of vilification.
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That’s not the case. A lot of folks on the left understand and acknowledge cultural Marxism, but they see it as social justice instead.

They’re on the front lines of this much more than the right is.
 
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