Is Darwin's Theory of Evolution True? Part 4.1

[Glark]

it may be just as well to say that birds were created without any relation to dinosaurs, but by a strange coincidence they have striking anatomical similarities to dinosaurs which are not shared by other vertebrates.

An evolutionist might say those “striking anatomical similarities” represent empirical evidence of Darwinian evolution - and they’d be wrong.

 

[Glark]

Actually I’ve changed my mind on that. I think the result may depend on the availability of sandpaper at the time.

You make a valid point. But the sandpaper trick has suddenly gone out of fashion.

 

[Glark]

It’s fortunate that only our distinguished biologists and palaeontologists have been exposed as a wicked sect of liars and fraudsters

I think the term “full-blown cult” fits the bill.

 

[benjamin1973]

Of course you’re not. Realizing that tigers, lions and house cats are obviously genetically related would be counter to your intent of evolving sand-resistant eyelids.

 

[Glark]

But there’s no requirement to accept evolution in order to attend science classes, to do scientific research, or even to be published.

Oppose evolution in a professional or academic scientific setting and see what happens.

The problem is that evolution is so much more compelling a theory than anything else that only Christian anti-evolutionists are going to consider something like ID.

I find nothing “compelling” about scientific theories that can’t be tested, in fact they normally bore me to tears. The only reason I take an interest in evolution is that it has spiritual ramifications.

 

[Glark]

Here’s the process I follow in my thinking.

God made the Universe.
We have access ONLY to the Universe, i.e. through the senses.
The only way in which we can study God is to study the Universe.

You forgot to mention the spiritual sense, which is just a real as the physical senses. The physical world comes from the spiritual world, so to ignore the spiritual world is to ignore the most important aspect of reality.

 

[edwest211]

These are very good examples. If a scientist looks at a flower and is told it was not designed but came to be the way it is by unguided chance, that is not an explanation. It’s called promoting a worldview.

 

[Glark]

You and buffalo and edwest are champions of atheism, and if I have any reason for remaining on this thread it is to show any casual passers by that a belief in evolution is not incompatible with faith in God, and that faith in God is not incompatible with a belief in evolution.

Rejecting Darwinian evolution should be a trivial matter, as it’s 100% useless. Biology doesn’t need it and nor does any other field of science. Rejecting it should present no more of an obstacle to faith that rejecting belief in Santa Claus.

You and buffalo and edwest are champions of atheism

I feel you are seriously dazed and confused. By supporting evolution you are aiding and abetting a demonic hoax.

farrago

Despite graduating from primary school, I’ve never encountered this word before. Using uncommon words is a sure sign of super-intelligence.

 

[edwest211]

Thanks. With millions of years at your disposal - while nobody is watching - anything can happen.

 

[edwest211]

Live in a certain atmosphere, under one gravity, with edible and potable things that just happen to be there…

Similar body plans for similar conditions?

 

[Glark]

With millions of years at your disposal - while nobody is watching - anything can happen.

It’s just like writing an episode of Star Trek - one is limited only by one’s imagination.

 

[Techno2000]

benjamin1973:

Here’s the process I follow in my thinking.

God made the Universe.
We have access ONLY to the Universe, i.e. through the senses.
The only way in which we can study God is to study the Universe.

You forgot to mention the spiritual sense, which is just a real as the physical senses. The physical world comes from the spiritual world, so to ignore the spiritual world is to ignore the most important aspect of reality.

So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.

2 Corinthians 4:18

Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation,

Colossians 1:15

 

[Glark]

while nobody is watching

The only eye-witness to it all recorded what happened in a book, but a lot of people today don’t believe Him.

 

[benjamin1973]

When God submits to lab experimentation, let me know. Until then, we study physical objects which we can observe with our physical eyes.

 

[benjamin1973]

That’s nice. Show how it explains why some dinosaurs had feathers, and why birds have many features similar to those of dinosaurs.

 

[buffalo]

When God submits to lab experimentation, let me know. Until then, we study physical objects which we can observe with our physical eyes.

You think that the historical record is 100% complete? You can observe all the objects?

 

[Techno2000]

That’s nice. Show how it explains why some dinosaurs had feathers, and why birds have many features similar to those of dinosaurs.

You mean based on that one fossil ?

 

[benjamin1973]

How many do you need?

 

[benjamin1973]

I don’t need to drop every object on the world to arrive at the conclusion that things drop when I let go of them.

 

[RandomAlias]

I don’t need to drop every object on the world to arrive at the conclusion that things drop when I let go of them.

Actually when you let go of a helium balloon, it goes up.

The Bible probably contradicts this.