Is fiscal conservatism not Christian?

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Well, you know, the rich are so downtrodden and abused. We have to have pity on those who are so downtrodden that they only have a few million dollars in assets. It’s so cruel to these beleaguered souls who are struggling to scrape by on millions of after-tax dollars a year.
This sarcasm sounds like a hate-the-wealthy complex.
 
Well, considering the “liberal/socialist” states usually contribute more in taxes to the Feds than they get back in funding and services and the “conservative” states usually end up getting more in funding and services that they contribute to the Feds…
Do you have something to back this up?

We all know liberals favor higher taxes, if that’s what you are trying to say.
 
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Well, you know, the rich are so downtrodden and abused. We have to have pity on those who are so downtrodden that they only have a few million dollars in assets. It’s so cruel to these beleaguered souls who are struggling to scrape by on millions of after-tax dollars a year.
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Of Course! Be understanding of the Rich helping those in need Other than by Tax Deduction check. 😃
 
I’m sorry Sailka, I can’t make heads or tails of most of your posts. English isn’t your first language, is it?
 
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Right-wing ideology isn’t about “me and my Bible and Jesus” either. How is right-wing ideology and Christianity incompatable?
No, Right wing idealogy is Me and my big Wallet, Property are the only things that count. Protect, Enrich me, by government.
That right wing ideology is the opposite of Christianity. The Opposite of helping others, not self. Worshipping own wealth, property, ‘power’ therefrom are False god
 
I’m sorry Sailka, I can’t make heads or tails of most of your posts. English isn’t your first language, is it?
Sorry, nope. was WW II refugee, from Hungary. Had to learn english at age 8. The above was just a Joke about very wealthy mindset. Joking is fun. Especially if honest Catholic joke 🙂
 
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I think you are confusing the words “right” and “left”.
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                                                                                                                                                                                       No, Has  been reversed  by Current all 'big money rules' administration.    Has reversed  welfare to Richest individuals and companies, from poorest individuals.
Haven’t heard of Highest Profit Drug Manufacturers, and Big Oil companies? Tax incentives and subsidies they getting now? While Nation has Biggest deficits, in History Now? Fox News does not cover those topics. Is outside their Pre-selected ‘agenda’ of programming.
 
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Haven’t heard of Highest Profit Drug Manufacturers, and Big Oil companies? Tax incentives and subsidies they getting now? While Nation has Biggest deficits, in History Now? Fox News does not cover those topics. Is outside their Pre-selected ‘agenda’ of programming.
The purpose of the drug manufacturers and oil companies is to produce drugs and oil.

If they produce drugs and oil and IF their revenues are higher than their expenses, then the difference is their profit.

The government takes about 50% of the profits as taxes. Some of what is left after taxes is paid to shareholders as dividends … and many of the shareholders are pension funds, mutual funds and people who are retired. That dividend money is their retirement pension.

Finally, the money after taxes, dividends (and interest on debt) is spent on new plant and equipment and on research and development. [You want companies to have positive cash flow.]

Some companies don’t make profits … and they go out of business. Take a look at the business section of your newspapers for companies that declare bankruptcy because of poor management … that failed to make profits.

In 1998, the oil companies were not making profits. The oil business is highly cyclical. Up and down.

Right now, companies that refine oil into gasoline, kerosene, diesel, jet fuel, asphalt, and other products are doing terrible. Not making much profits. We need many more refineries … have not built a new one in 30 years. But a new large refinery costs more than $2 billion to build. And they don’t have the profits to pay for new refineries. The money just isn’t there. On top of which it is difficult to get permits to build new refineries. Communities don’t want them. President Bush has proposed using surplus Navy bases to build refineries but our Congress won’t allow it. Small refineries have very poor economics so they don’t work either.

Anyway, that’s why you want companies that earn profits … to stay in business, to tide them over during periods of low profits, and to invest in new facilities.

And big pharmaceutical companies … their patents run out and they must design new drugs before the competition does. That research is very expensive. That’s where their profits go.

And sometimes they produce a drug that has adverse effects on some patients, so they get sued. The problem is that those problem drugs often work extremely well for some patients. So when they get sued the patients that need the drugs can’t get them.

Look up the history of antiangiogenesis drugs. And the work of Judah Folkman and his work on macular degeneration and cancer. He gave a wonderful presentation that is on video … look up “Beating Cancer At Its Own Game”. And he used a combination of drugs developed by big drug companies.

vtap.com/video/Beating+Cancer+At+Its+Own+Game/CL0067558336_3069d753c

Anyway, if you want new life-saving drugs, you had better hope that the drug companies can afford a lot of research and development. And they can only spend big bucks on research if they earn big profits.
 
Anyway, if you want new life-saving drugs, you had better hope that the drug companies can afford a lot of research and development.
And you better hope that you have the financial resources to pay for it because drugs are useless if you do not have access to them.
 
No, it could not be not Christian. The end all and be all of the Christian mission doesn’t inherently have a place for the government, much less it’s fiscal policy. It can be used, though, as a vehicle to help carry it out. It would have to be used with prudence. There are advantages and disadvantages that come with the government. Vigilance must be maintained at all times. The end of Genesis and the start of Exodus should serve as an example to that.
 
And you better hope that you have the financial resources to pay for it because drugs are useless if you do not have access to them.
Re-read what you wrote, and then ask yourself, “Doesn’t this indicate I should go out and get a job?”😉
 
Clinton Health Plan of 1993 was Ideal, Included business, and Based on the Best USA Health Systems < Catholic. It failed by couple Republcam Votes.

The Clinton proposed healthcare plan was horrible and would have been a disaster. If you didn’t go through the plan, or confided in a doctor that was not suggested to you, you would be jailed with a $3000 fine. Ideal to whom??

We are a Nation, not bunch of states. Does each state have its own armed forces?

We are one nation, but we are made up of 50 autonomous states. Does each have its own armed forces? Yes. It’s called the National Guard, and operates under the auspices of each governor.

Operating on Hundreds of Local School systens is Why our Secondary education is So Defective.

That is not the problem. The problem is what is being taught and how it is being taught in schools.

National systems have Far less Beaurocracy, Far better results. Why do small towns have own scool boards? Each County also? Each county also has own zoning, licensing regulations. How can business cope? It can’t! God Bless.
You seem to advocate socialism and communism, all of which come under your suggestions. A capitalistic system is one’s best bet to help people become better and allow them freedom. Your system wants to spread misery around equally to everyone.
 
You seem to advocate socialism and communism, all of which come under your suggestions. A capitalistic system is one’s best bet to help people become better and allow them freedom. Your system wants to spread misery around equally to everyone.
Perhaps it would be instructive to go and live in the Soviet Union for a while and see how Communism actually works.

Wait! We can’t go to the Soviet Union – it collapsed of its own weight. 😉
 
:eek: Briefest reply: Haven’t heard that THE New Drug research is paid fotr by Tax Dollars to NIH, and Universities? And are available virtually free To Manufacturers? They spend Very little in Research, Vastly less than on “Promoting” Sales to Doctors and users. 👍
 
:eek: Briefest reply: Haven’t heard that THE New Drug research is paid fotr by Tax Dollars to NIH, and Universities? And are available virtually free To Manufacturers? They spend Very little in Research, Vastly less than on “Promoting” Sales to Doctors and users. 👍
What is THE New Drug? Give us a cite.
 
Perhaps it would be instructive to go and live in the Soviet Union for a while and see how Communism actually works.

Wait! We can’t go to the Soviet Union – it collapsed of its own weight. 😉
No, the Soviet Union didn’t collapse under its own weight. Comminism collapsed because of Historic Pastor to the World John Paul II the Great. And only Bad things are bad, not everything. The Major Russian emphasis on the Arts, Of Science, Of Education were state sponsored. We do not, with Our admimnistration. Was at World Premier of the Orthodox Christmas Oratorio, With the Russian Defense Ministry Central Command Grand Symphony, conducted by (Honorary) Lt General conductor, at Bassilca of Immaculate Conception last Dec. Was Televised Worldwide by EWTN, TV 1 of Rissia, and couple of Russian media. Methinks is good idea to use Armed Forces for More than ‘promoting US interests’, like this Non-Veteran Adminstration is doing.
 
No, the Soviet Union didn’t collapse under its own weight. Comminism collapsed because of Historic Pastor to the World John Paul II the Great. And only Bad things are bad, not everything. The Major Russian emphasis on the Arts, Of Science, Of Education were state sponsored. We do not, with Our admimnistration. Was at World Premier of the Orthodox Christmas Oratorio, With the Russian Defense Ministry Central Command Grand Symphony, conducted by (Honorary) Lt General conductor, at Bassilca of Immaculate Conception last Dec. Was Televised Worldwide by EWTN, TV 1 of Rissia, and couple of Russian media. Methinks is good idea to use Armed Forces for More than ‘promoting US interests’, like this Non-Veteran Adminstration is doing.
Can somebody parse this jumble of run-on sentences and odd capitalization?😛
 
What is THE New Drug? Give us a cite.
Vast majority of New drugs are result of Tax Payer funded University and NIH research, last time I looked. And USA Pharmaceutical Companies are Highest Profit Margins in USA, with Elderly being most lucrative customers. Know other Advanced countries have Price controls on Drugs, To Prevent Extreme profits? Know USA Law Prohibits buying lower priced drugs, or even negotiation, except by VA? Again, far out liberal welfare protection of Very High Profits, by Law. Where is free market fiscal conservatism? Or Proce Competition? Not in Hghly Regulated Prices/Policies of US Business. Profits, rights from damages suits protected from free market by law. How Christian is that?
 
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