Is it a sin or sinful to smoke marijuana?

[rinnie]

Its ok - no disrespect taken … it will take more than that to knock me off my horse …

I don’t agree with you that the use of pot is an intrinsic evil. So the case you make about how I live my life and its impact on my kids doesn’t ring true for me. I am more concerned about whether or not I LISTEN to my kids, whether or not I have good rapport with them … whether or not they feel they can call me to talk anytime … whether or not there is honest communication between us … whether there is trust … whether or not i have a REAL relationship with them … and I could go on and on … I haven’t even begun to mention a Personal relationship with Christ yet

Oh yeah I get it you are the friend, you do not want to be the bad guy the Parent, You want to be their friend. Look luck with that. Your gonna lose. And worse than that your kids are gonna lose.

My Son got mixed up with a girl who had parents like you. They too were friends. He hated me. Because I would not accept the dope, the friends, so he left. I cried for a year and begged the Blessed Mother to watch over him. Please God do not let these people bring him down.

Guess what I was the lucky one. All it got him was in debt. He worked like a dog, they of course lied to him, (they could not let him be like them someone had to work). He was drug tested in his job constantly (thank You Jesus). He thought these people were it.

Guess what one and one half year later, guess whos back home. Guess who is closer than his Mother and Dad more than ever.

And he’s gonna pay back every credit card they ran up too. Just yesterday he took me somewhere its real bad here (the roads I will not drive). He finally talked about them. He said Mom how did you and Daddy keep it straight. I said God my Love, And the Blessed Mother.

When he would stop in back then for a minute he looked so tired, and I knew they were using him. I finally laid off. I said I have one thing to say, will you lisen. He gave me the whatever Mom. I said when you are alone Just go to the Blessed Mother and talk to her. Thats all.

2 months after that his eyes got open. Im no saint. He now got a pool table, has a few in the garage, he built a room now. he drinks with his friends. thats cool. But I told him no stinking drunk. enyoy, but know your limit. and of course no drink and drive. And he knows don’t even try to bring in drugs.

I was always considered the cool mother, Guess what I am back in style again. They all say I wish she would have been my Mom.
But not 5 years ago, I was a B…

 

[jkiernan56]

Oh yeah I get it you are the friend, you do not want to be the bad guy the Parent, You want to be their friend. Look luck with that. Your gonna lose. And worse than that your kids are gonna lose.

My Son got mixed up with a girl who had parents like you. They too were friends. He hated me. Because I would not accept the dope, the friends, so he left. I cried for a year and begged the Blessed Mother to watch over him. Please God do not let these people bring him down.

Guess what I was the lucky one. All it got him was in debt. He worked like a dog, they of course lied to him, (they could not let him be like them someone had to work). He was drug tested in his job constantly (thank You Jesus). He thought these people were it.

Guess what one and one half year later, guess whos back home. Guess who is closer than his Mother and Dad more than ever.

And he’s gonna pay back every credit card they ran up too. Just yesterday he took me somewhere its real bad here (the roads I will not drive). He finally talked about them. He said Mom how did you and Daddy keep it straight. I said God my Love, And the Blessed Mother.

When he would stop in back then for a minute he looked so tired, and I knew they were using him. I finally laid off. I said I have one thing to say, will you lisen. He gave me the whatever Mom. I said when you are alone Just go to the Blessed Mother and talk to her. Thats all.

2 months after that his eyes got open. Im no saint. He now got a pool table, has a few in the garage, he built a room now. he drinks with his friends. thats cool. But I told him no stinking drunk. enyoy, but know your limit. and of course no drink and drive. And he knows don’t even try to bring in drugs.

I was always considered the cool mother, Guess what I am back in style again. They all say I wish she would have been my Mom.
But not 5 years ago, I was a B…

You do not know me or have the right to make that conclusion about whether I am or am not the kind of Parent that is “just a friend.” For you to say that indicates to me a judgemental spirit.

 

[rinnie]

Be honest with me. How old are you? And how old are your kids?

 

[jkiernan56]

Be honest with me. How old are you? And how old are your kids?

That is private personal information. I will give you a little bit of wisdom if you are willing to listen to some … “people don’t care about what you know - until they know that you care.”

If and when you become a parent, you’ll understand the meaning in your relationship with your children. Even if you don’t have children or not even married, you and I would be wise to listen to that saying.

Here is another question for you that would be worthwhile … why were most people attracted to Christ … and in particular, why were the poor mostly attracted to Christ? And last but not least, why did people LISTEN to Christ?

 

[rinnie]

That is private personal information. I will give you a little bit of wisdom if you are willing to listen to some … “people don’t care about what you know - until they know that you care.”

If and when you become a parent, you’ll understand the meaning in your relationship with your children. Even if you don’t have children or not even married, you and I would be wise to listen to that saying.

Here is another question for you that would be worthwhile … why were most people attracted to Christ … and in particular, why were the poor mostly attracted to Christ? And last but not least, why did people LISTEN to Christ?

Thats easy because he loved them. He cared about them. Did he judge them, yes he did, but he judged them in a way that showed them, that I can judge you, I must judge you. Because that is how I am going to get your attention. But I will not only Judge you, because to alot of people not accepting the wrong they do is considered judgeing them, I forgive you. I want to help you. And because I love You I must judge you to help you. You are doing wrong, but I love you enough to have you hate me, if thats what it takes to get you on the right track.

But like a true Father he could judge you, but don’t you dare do it. Because he sticks with you all the way, and when you think you are alone you find out he will never leave you. Because that is true Love. He loves us even through we sin, but that does not mean he accepts our sin. God will never overlook sin or accept sin, he only forgives it. But we must do our part too, and quit the sin, and through him, with him it can be done.

To not accept someones sin does not mean you quit loving them. It means you love them more. Again to be the hated one, because you would rather see your child hate you and be on the right road, then to love you and be in the gutter and not get out.

 

[jkiernan56]

Thats easy because he loved them. He cared about them. Did he judge them, yes he did, but he judged them in a way that showed them, that I can judge you, I must judge you. Because that is how I am going to get your attention. But I will not only Judge you, because to alot of people not accepting the wrong they do is considered judgeing them, I forgive you. I want to help you. And because I love You I must judge you to help you. You are doing wrong, but I love you enough to have you hate me, if thats what it takes to get you on the right track.

But like a true Father he could judge you, but don’t you dare do it. Because he sticks with you all the way, and when you think you are alone you find out he will never leave you. Because that is true Love. He loves us even through we sin, but that does not mean he accepts our sin. God will never overlook sin or accept sin, he only forgives it. But we must do our part too, and quit the sin, and through him, with him it can be done.

To not accept someones sin does not mean you quit loving them. It means you love them more. Again to be the hated one, because you would rather see your child hate you and be on the right road, then to love you and be in the gutter and not get out.

No, you insulted me when you took the liberty to conclude that the way I communicate with my kids was just being their buddy and making a judgement about the kind of parent I am. That was very judgemental in my opinion. I agree with you that there is a scriptural way to understand being judgemental, and then there is a false understanding of what it means. I am using judgment right now to write these words to you … but that is NOT being judgemental. One way to be judgemental in the correct understanding is that you think you have a right to conclude what kind of relationship I have with my sons … without having all the facts … and even if you did have all the facts … only God completely knows the truth.

 

[Mickey]

No, you insulted me when you took the liberty to conclude that the way I communicate with my kids was just being their buddy and making a judgement about the kind of parent I am.

It is very sad when people on the forums begin to judge and insult.

Do your best and let God do the rest.

 

[rinnie]

But you have to realize that my view on its use is not the same as yours … while I do acknowledge the potential issues that are associated. So my concern for my kids is not the same as yours. My thoughts are more on whether or not my sons know and love Christ … that for me is EVERYTHING. Please notice that I didn’t even say anything about the Catholic Church … yet

No I made a judgement on your actions, from what I have seen from this thread. You asked if it is sin to smoke pot. We have showed you where the church said yes. You in turn tried to turn that around saying for amusement only. I did not judge you, I said I did not agree with you. You consider that judgeing you.

You claim that your thoughts as a parent are not the same as mine, Now I can play this game with you as long as your want. What gives you the right to judge me. Where did I ever say my views were not for my kids to know and Love Christ. But you judged me also. How can you say that we differ and where did I ever tell you that CHrist was not the most important thing in my kids life.

 

[rinnie]

CCC quote: The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage to the human health and life. Their use EXCEPT ON STRICTLY THERAPEUTIC GROUNDS, IS A GRAVE OFFENSE. unquote

It is a one size fits all kind of answer. Its forbiden. A grave offense means mortal sin. Is it a sin to smoke dope, yep mortal sin. That is not my opinion it is the opinion of the Catholic Church. Is pot a drug, yep! A illegal one at that!

I still stand by my answer. It is a sin, and we should not sin. Love the sinner hate the sin. No matter how we want to turn this around we cannot. It is a sin to smoke dope. And all we can do is try our best to not let anyone tell us it is not. And the best way to not get stuck on it is not to do it in the first place.

But no matter how much you love someone, you do not and should not accept the sins they are commiting if they are doing drugs. Do not let them use your love for them to make you accept it.

Again like the Pope teaches Love the Sinner Hate the SIN. Stand up to sin guys, ITs not easy but it can save a life!

 

[cantuschristi]

I believe that God gave us all the plants for our use and that is in the Bible, it is the abuse of any of these that would be a sin. Some say that drinking alcoholic beverages is a sin, but Jesus drank fermented wine, and he changed water to fermented wine at the wedding at Caana. Also, the reason Marijuana is illegal and categorized as a narcotic is because of W.R. Hearst and the Dupont company’s collaboration to get man-made fibers on the marked with no competition from the natural, renewable hemp fiber that is cheaper. In the '30s, the government made Marijuana illegal when the testimony was presented that “…it made white women have sexual relations with black men.” Since then, it has been proven that Marijuana is not a narcotic, it is not a central nervous system depressant or stimulant, there is no physical dependence on it, you can’t overdose on it, and it has never, I repeat NEVER killed anyone. I am a cancer survivor, and I used Marijuana during chemo therapy, and I would not have been able to continue working at my job during this time if I had not. It is the only drug that stopped nausea within moments, and worked completely. I even gained a couple of pounds during the treatment period. I have a doctor’s prescription for cannabis, and I believe it should be legal and taxed. It is the #1 cash crop in California, and we could surely use a source of revenue in our state.
Do not use heavy equipment or drive while under the influence, and math is a little difficult.
God bless all!

 

[rinnie]

I believe that God gave us all the plants for our use and that is in the Bible, it is the abuse of any of these that would be a sin. Some say that drinking alcoholic beverages is a sin, but Jesus drank fermented wine, and he changed water to fermented wine at the wedding at Caana. Also, the reason Marijuana is illegal and categorized as a narcotic is because of W.R. Hearst and the Dupont company’s collaboration to get man-made fibers on the marked with no competition from the natural, renewable hemp fiber that is cheaper. In the '30s, the government made Marijuana illegal when the testimony was presented that “…it made white women have sexual relations with black men.” Since then, it has been proven that Marijuana is not a narcotic, it is not a central nervous system depressant or stimulant, there is no physical dependence on it, you can’t overdose on it, and it has never, I repeat NEVER killed anyone. I am a cancer survivor, and I used Marijuana during chemo therapy, and I would not have been able to continue working at my job during this time if I had not. It is the only drug that stopped nausea within moments, and worked completely. I even gained a couple of pounds during the treatment period. I have a doctor’s prescription for cannabis, and I believe it should be legal and taxed. It is the #1 cash crop in California, and we could surely use a source of revenue in our state.
Do not use heavy equipment or drive while under the influence, and math is a little difficult.
God bless all!

The question was not rather is should be legal or not it was is using it a sin. The Pope said that if you are not using it for Medical reasons it is indeed a sin. Do you agree or disagree with the Pope? And it is considered a drug. That is the point.

By the way God Bless you with your Cancer, and I wish you the best. My Husband also beat Cancer. He is over his ten year mark!

 

[Matariel]

And it is considered a drug. That is the point.

Alcohol is technically, too.

 

[jkiernan56]

Alcohol is technically, too.

It takes a little bit of common sense to realize that though!! LOL

 

[Matariel]

It takes a little bit of common sense to realize that though!! LOL

I know, right?

The problem is the use of the word “drugs” in the Catechism is ambiguous, because tabacco and alchohol are treated as if they are a separate category.

 

[rinnie]

I know, right?

The problem is the use of the word “drugs” in the Catechism is ambiguous, because tabacco and alchohol are treated as if they are a separate category.

Yes you are correct. But I do not see where having a drink is a sin, According to the ccc we are not told we must avoid it. We must avoid every kind of excess. Same with food, tobacco.

But I do not see where having a few drinks is a sin. Personally I am very gratefull for that!

 

[taylorc]

Cigarettes are responsible for FAR more deaths than pot. I don’t understand why one would be allowed while the other is not.

 

[jkiernan56]

Cigarettes are responsible for FAR more deaths than pot. I don’t understand why one would be allowed while the other is not.

I thought like … alcohol caused more problems than tobacco … like that is what I heard … but like i’m not sure … can you like … help me to know? LOL

 

[taylorc]

I thought like … alcohol caused more problems than tobacco … like that is what I heard … but like i’m not sure … can you like … help me to know? LOL

Not true. Cigarettes are the leading cause of preventable deaths. There is no such thing has moderate tobacco use. There is no safe amount of cigarette smoking. At least pot and alcohol feel good. What’s the point of smoking cigarettes?

 

[jkiernan56]

Not true. Cigarettes are the leading cause of preventable deaths. There is no such thing has moderate tobacco use. There is no safe amount of cigarette smoking. At least pot and alcohol feel good. What’s the point of smoking cigarettes?

The drug Nicotene?

 

[taylorc]

The drug Nicotene?

Nicotine hardly can be compared to feel good drugs like alcohol and vicodin. It’s not mind altering. It’s not illegal to smoke a bunch of cigarettes and then drive.