Is it discriminatory that Airlines only allow pretty flight attendants?

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But not everyone is equally suited for every job. Someone who is very short and stout would be terrible as a basketball player, for example. Someone who is a fashion model would indeed have to be physically attractive.

As I said, stewards are essentially living adverts for their airline. People judge their experience of a flight by the whole package including the physical presentation of the plane and of the stewards.

I’m not saying model-level attractiveness is required, and I can’t really judge the lady by one picture, but it may be she doesn’t meet criteria as far as grooming goes or something.
 
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There truly must be a subjective component to beauty as I don’t find Bill Clinton at all attractive including even when he was young.
Maybe he seems attractive to some due to his air/confidence.
 
I’m really sorry that’s your situation.
This may be a reality in society but it doesn’t mean that I agree with this mentality.
Personally I think only some of it is natural and most of it is conditioning.
Ie:it may be human nature that we look when something seems “out of the norm” but when we start placing judgements on it,or value people based of it,or construct a society that that discriminates off it (for jobs) that’s to me conditioning and not just nature.

Thankfully not everyone is ok with it being this way and there are people trying make changes.(eg:model Winny Harlow).

I know what you mean about people with Autism or Down’s syndrome not reacting.
 
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I note the ages of the ladies aren’t disclosed. I wonder if it’s a simple matter of the company trying to “persuade” employees who look to me like they may be nearing retirement age to go early? Which may be ageist but isn’t about looks.
 
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Flight attendants need to be able to get up and down the aisles quickly and easily, and they need to be able to reach up and bend down easily. They need to be fit enough to supervise emergency evacuations.

Apart from that, they don’t need to look any way in particular - they are given a uniform, they need to wear it properly and look neat and tidy. People who are too overweight to negotiate the cramped conditions in economy class obviously aren’t appropriate for this particular job. Any other restrictions based on notions of attractiveness are discriminatory, in my opinion.
 
Unfortunately, I think it’s about both age and beauty.

From the article :

…,At a news conference in April, a member of Aeroflot’s public council argued it was “quite acceptable to pay for good looks”.
“Aeroflot is a premium airline, and the staff’s looks is definitely one of the things the clients pay for,” Pavel Danilin, himself an overweight man, said. Aeroflot told the AP members of its public council do not speak on the company’s behalf…

…"Society judges women with the eyes of a young man,…Right now there’s a policy that a flight attendant has to be sexually attractive,” she says. “But our role on-board is different: it’s to ensure safety, not to be an object of sexual desire. This is wrong and hurtful.”
 
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My country has a weird stereotype of our cabin crew (especially the women on SIA). Apparently they are picked for their looks but imo I don’t see it. Most of them are average? Maybe it’s the ridiculous makeup requirements. I feel like the Singaporean crew pile it on without paying attention to their features.

I once took an introductory class about it (I have no idea why my school insisted) and the selection criteria and makeup choices etc are really strict. They are apparently not allowed to laugh out loud in public because they look unglamorous that way or something. Yeesh.
 
Rozellelily said:
Personally I think only some of it is natural and most of it is conditioning.
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In ancient times the deformed baby was either left out to die of exposure, killed at birth, put outside of the tribe to become a beggar or in rare cases they were worshiped as some sort of god.

Move forward, we were either forced to be beggars OR kept as pets by the wealthy for entertainment.

Keep moving forward, circus sideshows.

Today, live on a government pittance in poverty or be part of the modern sideshow that is cable TV.

VERY few people with visiable, incurable disabilities from birth are allowed to be judged on what is on the inside. That is simply not reality.

We are okay with the vet who loses his legs in war or the beautiful athlete who loses her arm to cancer. Wheelchairs don’t frighten us, but, abject difference does.

It is part of the human desire for beauty. It is real.
 
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“Aeroflot is a premium airline, and the staff’s looks is definitely one of the things the clients pay for,” Pavel Danilin, himself an overweight man, said.
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😆 Aeroflot a premium airline? Yes, and McDonalds is a Michelin-starred restaurant.
 
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Doesn’t it strike you as unfair that someone should be given an advantage just because they were blessed genetically?
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[shudder*]

Do. not. go. there.

Go read Vonnegut’s “Harrison Bergeron” and run from this.

(It’s the one where the Handicapper Generall, to solves this, forces graceful ballerinas to wear weights on their ankles, the intelligent are fitted with devices to disrupt their brain every few seconds, the eloquent newsreaders forced to stutter, etc., all to solve this problem . . .)

hawk
 
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Doesn’t it strike you as unfair that someone should be given an advantage just because they were blessed genetically?
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Not particularly. And as the before and after pictures prove, it could be that it’s smoke and mirrors and the magic of lipstick, eye shadow and liner and other cosmetics tricks that can help make a face pretty. Maybe those women are merely putting extra time into getting fixed up than others? But does it strike you as unfair that someone should be given an advantage just because they were blessed with smarts and more intelligence?
 
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Isca said:
😆 Aeroflot a premium airline? Yes, and McDonalds is a Michelin-starred restaurant.
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I got an equally hearty chuckle out of that.

OP, I’m in the US, and I’ve flown on the flag carriers of multiple non-US nations as well as just about every major carrier in the US, though I’m as loyal to American Airlines as travel plans will allow me to be.

Flight attendants are no more attractive nor no less attractive as a group than any other group of employees employed anywhere else.
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Nope. Checking people out so hard that you get uncomfortable if they aren’t hot enough is creepy.
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Truth.
 
The last time I found flight attendants to be particularly attractive was when they brought me free drinks and full meals in an uncrowded coach class. That hasn’t happened in a long time.
 
I definitely feel like I would be more comfortable if the women on the right brought me ginger ale and were in charge of inflating my escape slide. The normal-looking women would probably mess it up. Give me too much ice or something.
 
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someone should be given an advantage just because they were blessed with smarts and more intelligence?
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The smarts and intelligence would be of huge benefit in jobs. So obviously that would be given importance. Looks don’t…
 
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