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I certainly was not making a judgement in whether the individuals are outside the Catholic Church.would suspect @commenter you are not referring to whether they themselves are in or outside the Catholic church. That would more than likely be making a judgement on their soul.
There are lay ministries operating in conjunction with the Church - approval of their local bishop, even if they are not operated, administered or financed by the diocese. Catholic Answers is one. The ministries I referred to are not so affiliated.
That doesn’t necessarily mean they are bad but who knows?
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