Is Jesus Christ and the Roman Catholic Church the only way to salvation?

[Refugium]

Of course. “Outside the Catholic Church Is No Salvation” (Extra Ecclesia Nulla Salus) is a defined dogma of faith required for every Catholic to believe. Catholics who deny this dogma, or make it into a “meaningless formula” (as Pope Pius XII said) are in error, heretics. It is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every man to be a member of the Apostolic Roman Catholic Church, in submission to the successor of St. Peter, the Pope. I am appalled by the lack of orthodoxy on the part of so-called Catholics in this thread. And there is no “second chance” in purgatory for a non-Catholic to become a Catholic–purgatory is for those who are already saved and awaiting heaven, and thus only those who die in the bosom of the Catholic Church will go there. It is appointed for man to die once, and after this, judgment. I repeat–Outside the Catholic Church is NO SALVATION–period!!

 

[moondweller]

Hello moonweller,

*Nice post, I like this quote of yours - *

*"you believe in your church, *and salvation is through it’s ability to keep you on “the straight and narrow.”.

Can I steal it?

You certainly may. As a Catholic you’re in agreement?

 

[sodak]

But does it guarantee belief in Christ?

We wouldn’t try to follow his will if we didn’t believe in Him. Absolutely.

As I said in another thread, we don’t believe in Jesus or the Church. For us, it’s Jesus AND his Church. There is no contradiction.

Our belief (if applied properly) forces us out of our comfort zone. Just saying we believe is not enough, as Christ clearly states. It requires us to follow Him. We do that by trying our best to discern His will for our lives and obey Him, even if it’s not necessarily what we think is best. The Church gives us strong guidance in following Christ’s will (the straight and narrow).

It isn’t a nice idea, it’s a requirement, as James clearly states. Faith without works is dead.

We are NOT earning our way into Heaven. But we can certainly earn our way into Hell.

 

[moondweller]

Of course. “Outside the Catholic Church Is No Salvation” (Extra Ecclesia Nulla Salus) is a defined dogma of faith required for every Catholic to believe.

So it is true that the object of salvation faith for a Roman Catholic is the church of Rome.

Catholics who deny this dogma, or make it into a “meaningless formula” (as Pope Pius XII said) are in error, heretics. It is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every man to be a member of the Apostolic Roman Catholic Church, in submission to the successor of St. Peter, the Pope. I am appalled by the lack of orthodoxy on the part of so-called Catholics in this thread. And there is no “second chance” in purgatory for a non-Catholic to become a Catholic–purgatory is for those who are already saved and awaiting heaven, and thus only those who die in the bosom of the Catholic Church will go there.

So the ultimate factor for salvation is which church baptized you.

It is appointed for man to die once, and after this, judgment. I repeat–Outside the Catholic Church is NO SALVATION–period!!

But according to the words of Christ:Himself:John 5:24 ¶ "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life"And the Apostle Paul:"There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus."He didn’t say "for those who are Roman Catholic " When did the gospel (good news) change? .

 

[AgnosTheist]

Is Jesus Christ and the Roman Catholic Church the only way to salvation? I had to vote ‘no’. Because that question would be like asking this question:

Are people in heaven mostly Europeans and Latinos?

 

[AgnosTheist]

Is Jesus Christ and the Roman Catholic Church the only way to salvation? I had to vote ‘no’. Because that question would be like asking this question:

Are people in heaven mostly Europeans and Latinos?

Surely God is not so racist that he would deny the other parts of the world with equal opportunity for salvation. Eh?

 

[jmcrae]

Is Jesus Christ and the Roman Catholic Church the only way to salvation? I had to vote ‘no’. Because that question would be like asking this question:

Are people in heaven mostly Europeans and Latinos?

Surely God is not so racist that he would deny the other parts of the world with equal opportunity for salvation. Eh?

NO. Rather, that everyone who is there, regardless of race, has at some point become a Catholic - and if they were destined for Heaven but never heard of Christ while on the earth, then they “joined up” while they were in Purgatory.

 

[Refugium]

So it is true that the object of salvation faith for a Roman Catholic is the church of Rome.So the ultimate factor for salvation is which church baptized you.But according to the words of Christ:Himself:John 5:24 ¶ "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life"And the Apostle Paul:"There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus."He didn’t say "for those who are Roman Catholic " When did the gospel (good news) change? .

“In Christ”…“Roman Catholic”…same thing. You know, you can only be IN Christ if you are IN the Body of Christ, His Church. And the Holy Roman Catholic Church is the one true church, founded by Christ Himself and purchased with His own blood.

 

[moondweller]

“In Christ”…“Roman Catholic”…same thing. You know, you can only be IN Christ if you are IN the Body of Christ, His Church. And the Holy Roman Catholic Church is the one true church, founded by Christ Himself and purchased with His own blood.

Easily asserted but not proved.

 

[Deacon110]

I’m no theologian but I believe that God is the only way to salvation. I don’t see how any other way could possibly be the way to Him. This in turn raises the whole question of whether Jesus is God Incarnate (another topic of debate) - but if for arguments sake one does accept that Jesus is God incarnate than that, to my understanding, would make Him the way because He is god - not because of some scripture versus
That’s my opinion

AMEN:thumbsup:

 

[Genesis315]

Yes, Christ is the only way. And the Church is His Body–one must be untied to the Body to receive life from the head. And Christ entrusted His Church to Peter (and his successors)–so being united to the flock entrusted to the Roman Pontiff is necessary for salvation

 

[Jimmy_B]

You certainly may. As a Catholic you’re in agreement?

Thanks moonweller.

"you believe in your church, and salvation is through it’s ability to keep you on “the straight and narrow.”.

"you believe in your church, and salvation is through it’s ability to keep you on “the straight and narrow.”.

"you believe in your church, and salvation is through it’s ability to keep you on “the straight and narrow.”.

There… three times now … you might just see this one on another thread, in the future…

 

[c659smith]

“In Christ”…“Roman Catholic”…same thing. You know, you can only be IN Christ if you are IN the Body of Christ, His Church. And the Holy Roman Catholic Church is the one true church, founded by Christ Himself and purchased with His own blood.

I think I will leave that up to Christ. Do not judge or ye will be judged.

I do not want judgement I want mercy. So I will not answer (judge another).

Esspecially for those denominations believing in Jesus Christ as the Savior.

The Catholic Church is the complete fullness of Christ and makes a clear path to follow for salvation.

For all others I pray for their conversion.

 

[Valke2]

Of course. “Outside the Catholic Church Is No Salvation” (Extra Ecclesia Nulla Salus) is a defined dogma of faith required for every Catholic to believe. Catholics who deny this dogma, or make it into a “meaningless formula” (as Pope Pius XII said) are in error, heretics. It is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every man to be a member of the Apostolic Roman Catholic Church, in submission to the successor of St. Peter, the Pope. I am appalled by the lack of orthodoxy on the part of so-called Catholics in this thread. And there is no “second chance” in purgatory for a non-Catholic to become a Catholic–purgatory is for those who are already saved and awaiting heaven, and thus only those who die in the bosom of the Catholic Church will go there. It is appointed for man to die once, and after this, judgment. I repeat–Outside the Catholic Church is NO SALVATION–period!!

After reading your post I immediately contacted my rabbi, and he has assured me otherwise.

 

[c659smith]

“In Christ”…“Roman Catholic”…same thing. You know, you can only be IN Christ if you are IN the Body of Christ, His Church. And the Holy Roman Catholic Church is the one true church, founded by Christ Himself and purchased with His own blood.

I agree but we do not speak for Christ we use Sacred Teachings, Sacred Scriptures, and Sacred Traditions for conversion not judgement that is up to Christ not us.

The Church may forgive or retain sins but it is up to Christ to judge those retained not us.

I may be a little off here but it is my understanding.

 

[swariffin]

I’m no theologian but I believe that God is the only way to salvation. I don’t see how any other way could possibly be the way to Him. This in turn raises the whole question of whether Jesus is God Incarnate (another topic of debate) - but if for arguments sake one does accept that Jesus is God incarnate than that, to my understanding, would make Him the way because He is god - not because of some scripture versus
That’s my opinion

Dear Prettygal,

Somehow, I hate to call you uglygal although this is your pseudoname. I believe that everybody is either handsome of pretty because all human are made with the image of God.

Basically you are correct. Only God is the way to God. John mentioned that Jesus said that He is the only way to God (John 14:6), and in John 1:1 it is meant that Jesus is the word of God. Substituting John 1:1 into John 14:6, will means that “The word of God in the only way to God”. The question is “Who/what is the word of God”? The Christian says it is Jesus. Other people from other culture living in other environment geographically may not say Jesus, and may not even know Jesus at all. But, to them, God also reveals Himself and God loves them too, in other way that we may not know/understand. But, to my knowledge, all people from all religion all over the world have an agreement that God is powerful, loving, and benevolent. So, whoever loves God with all of his power and might, and by knowing that God is loving, he/she loves other people as him/herself, he/she is going into salvation regardless he/she is Catholic, non-Catholic Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Hinduist, Ahmadian, etc you name it. John 14:6 is still valid. We the Catholic believe in Jesus the way we are, because we are chosen by Jesus Himself, to follow the way taught by Him (John 15:16), and to follow the universal chuch authority passed to Peter and his succesors. We don’t believe that the authority passed by Christ to Peter ceased to exist at the death of Peter.

 

[SIA]

Is Jesus Christ and the Roman Catholic Church the only way to salvation?

Your thoughs?

Jesus is absolutely the only way to salvation. The Roman church has nothing to do with his original plan of salvation.

 

[mikew262]

Dear Prettygal,

Somehow, I hate to call you uglygal although this is your pseudoname. I believe that everybody is either handsome of pretty because all human are made with the image of God.

Basically you are correct. Only God is the way to God. John mentioned that Jesus said that He is the only way to God (John 14:6), and in John 1:1 it is meant that Jesus is the word of God. Substituting John 1:1 into John 14:6, will means that “The word of God in the only way to God”. The question is “Who/what is the word of God”? The Christian says it is Jesus. Other people from other culture living in other environment geographically may not say Jesus, and may not even know Jesus at all. But, to them, God also reveals Himself and God loves them too, in other way that we may not know/understand. But, to my knowledge, all people from all religion all over the world have an agreement that God is powerful, loving, and benevolent. So, whoever loves God with all of his power and might, and by knowing that God is loving, he/she loves other people as him/herself, he/she is going into salvation regardless he/she is Catholic, non-Catholic Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Hinduist, Ahmadian, etc you name it. John 14:6 is still valid. We the Catholic believe in Jesus the way we are, because we are chosen by Jesus Himself, to follow the way taught by Him (John 15:16), and to follow the universal chuch authority passed to Peter and his succesors. We don’t believe that the authority passed by Christ to Peter ceased to exist at the death of Peter.

Interesting points and ones I’ve raised before. As Christians, we follow Jesus’ teachings as our way to get to Heaven. However, I find it hard to fathom that peaceful, good and faithful people of other religions have no chance at salvation.

 

[Charlie_Zeaiter]

Jesus is absolutely the only way to salvation. The Roman church has nothing to do with his original plan of salvation.

I disagree.

I think salvation is a form of life, and like all life from God, a male and a female is needed.

I think the male is the Groom Jesus. And the female is His Bride, The Church (see Ephesians 5:32).

Now, I’ll put my neck on the chopping block and say that the Catholic Church is the one and only true Bride of Christ.

 

[SIA]

I disagree.

I think salvation is a form of life, and like all life from God, a male and a female is needed.

I think the male is the Groom Jesus. And the female is His Bride, The Church (see Ephesians 5:32).

Now, I’ll put my neck on the chopping block and say that the Catholic Church is the one and only true Bride of Christ.

I don’t agree. Jesus said, “I am the way the truth and the life.” He doesn’t need anything else and we don’t need anything else. He was the atonement for our sins and grace by faith in him is salvation.