Is your weight an issue?

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Please go back and re-read my post #10. It says nothing about medical conditions which can cause overweight/obesity.

The fact remains that an ever-increasing number of adults (now approaching 30%) in the US are obese. They are not all the victims of medical conditions.
and the scary thing is that there is also a great increase in obesity in children:eek: …(not do to medical conditions)
 
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The fact remains that an ever-increasing number of adults (now approaching 30%) in the US are obese. They are not all the victims of medical conditions.
  • An estimated** 30 percent of U.S. adults aged 20 years and older - over 60 million people** - are obese, defined as having a body mass index (BMI) of 30 or higher.
  • An estimated 65 percent of U.S. adults aged 20 years and older are either overweight or obese, defined as having a BMI of 25 or higher.
    cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/obesity/faq.htm#adults
 
“I love you and want you to be healthy. How can I help?” Might be a start.
I can’t speaking for anyone else, but I’d like to be thinner than I am. But it’s kinda frustrating when you walk @ 45-50 miles a week, eat a vegan diet, indulge only once in a blue moon and STILL the scale doesn’t move. For me, Insulin Resistance plays a BIG part in my slow weight loss efforts. I know people look at fat people and think they just can’t stop themselves. Sometimes that is true. We all have to learn to put the fork down, but a condescending attitude doesn’t help. Walk a mile of my 45 miles first.
Kathy
there is treatment for IR that would help you (as I am sure that you know) …along with the healthy lifestyle that you are following.
 
i know how you feel even though i’m not overweight, i’m undertall. i’m also not going bald, i’m growing my forehead.😃
i’ll pray for you
 
I also got sick and tired of being 40 lbs overweight. I’m a small boned, 5’3" woman and was wearing a sz 16.
I tried every diet known, including fen-fen, in the 80s. They all worked but the weight came back and then some.
Then I decided to just cut the junk and bread, walk some and quit worrying.
Here I am 1 year later, 36 lbs thinner and healthy. I’ve changed my eating habits drastically over this year and it’s also paid off in my cholestrol taking a nosedive and feeling better all over.
And I paid no one, doctor or company to help me for the 1st time.
The most important thing I did not do was stress over it. I never weighed myself for 5 months till I went to the doctor. Then I had incentive to keep at it.
I dearly hope weight is never an issue with me again but I MUST stay on top of my habits for that to come true.
My hopes and prayers are with EVERYONE who has a weight problem!
 
“I love you and want you to be healthy. How can I help?”
Been there, tried that. Have avoided all negatives or any thing that approaches criticism, in favor of praise for progess and effort.
We all have to learn to put the fork down, but a condescending attitude doesn’t help. Walk a mile of my 45 miles first.Kathy
Condescending attitude?! Does anyone think for a minute that those of us who resist being overweight or obese are at a loss to understand what it requires–especially as we age, have babies, or even find ourselves with more disposable income than in the past that affords opportunities for dining out, etc? Trust me…I have trudged many a mile towards that effort and resisted plenty of urges to indulge.

I have to wonder if there would be such defensiveness and/or hesitation to speak up if, instead of dealing with obesity, you watched a family member slowly starving himself/herself? How about abusing/misusing/neglecting to take medication necessary to maintain normal functioning? Would we pause to consider whether we might “offend” them before speaking up or trying to remedy the situation?
 
Those who are obese, through choice and lifestyle, disrespect the very gift of their life and ordinary health. They also impose a burden of anxiety upon relatives and friends which in turn can generate some very legitimate and negative emotions, and yes, sometimes judgments. Eventually–the burden can become tangible in the form of decreased mobility, compromised health, limited lifespan.

To me, obesity raises a moral issue if an individual, through neglect or weakness of will, places him/herself–and necessarily those who care about them–in a vulnerable, even dangerous, position. Would you suggest that those who are diligent about their health and fitness, and yet have this concern and burden inflicted upon them by family members, should remain silent about it?
First: Obesity is very often, perhaps most often, about a great deal more than “choice and lifestyle.” It can be a symptom of something that is everything other than a quest to stuff oneself for the mere pleasure of it.

Moreover, of all the sins that we commit, gluttony of excess, the gluttony that shows its effects in obesity, is currently being given a heavy judgement. Gluttony of delicacy, OTOH, that gluttony that insists on having the best portion or to only be content with the highest quality ingredients for oneself or that is put out when the preparation is not of the best, is the current vogue. Getting one’s nose bent out of shape because the menu is geared toward the health and sensitivity towards loved ones instead of the particular holiday goodies that we personally had hoped to indulge ourselves in is gluttony, too. I’m not saying you do this. I am saying that not all glutton is currently under equal judgement.

Do you think the obese don’t care if they are fat? Do you think they forget that they can’t sit on every chair, that they can’t keep up with others, that they aren’t afraid of premature death? Yet you sound a bit as if this is all about their responsibility to keep you from worrying about them. If they turned around and told you that turning your concern into anxiety was your choice, would that help you? How you handle your emotions, after all, is your responsibility, not theirs, right? So you see where that kind of thinking can go. Everyone gets blamed and no one gets helped.

It is important to learn to speak when it is helpful and to be silent when that is helpful…so yes, sometimes the most moral and loving choice for relatives of the obese is to be silent. It is not just obese people who will tell you that harping on someone’s weight and singling them out for correction is unhelpful and even counterproductive. It is doctors and nutritionists, too, the people whose job it is to help the obese keep to a healthy diet and lifestyle. Do not be too proud to take the advice of the people who professionally study how these problems are best managed. Believe them.

You love your relatives, that much is clear. Your concern is a beatiful thing. It would be the easiest thing in the world to just say, “Their health is their problem, their soul is their problem, not my worry”. You are right: that would be wrong. Just try to make what you choose to do as helpful as you can, and sprinkle the patience for the sins of all as liberally as possible.
People make the assumption that fat people are lazy which is so untrue. I work very hard in the Department I work in I am the one who is always on the run doing this and doing that. I am dependable, reliable, honest and truthful. And I do not care what people say about me.
I’m happy you’ve freed yourself of the need to worry about your weight and beat yourself up for reasons of vanity and self-esteem. That was very wise.

Nevertheless, keep yourself under examination, regardless of your weight, about whether you are doing your best with your body, the Temple of the Holy Spirit. I do not mean to beat yourself up about it. I mean do not become lax in that part of your life. If you work too hard at everything else to take care of your own body, maybe the focus needs to shift a little.

If you are doing your best and your weight doesn’t budge, so be it. But even if our clothes fit like a million bucks, we all have to guard the gift of life and health. As you say, only God can judge. We ought to invite that. The perfection God wills for us, after all, is where our greatest happiness is to be found, in this life and in the next.
 
To all of you who have tried and tried to lose weight, I would suggest Weight Watchers. My sister who tried every diet and exercise, finally joined Weight Watchers and lost over 100 lbs in one year. Sure it was hard, but one of the best programs she was on. She followed their old point system and exercised. You can make your own foods, but she mostly ate the salad and weight watchers frozen foods and smart one frozen foods. Quite costly and I’m not sure how healthy, but then again her having all that weight on a 5’1" body wasn’t healthy, neither. Best to all of you struggling.
 
Island Oak…do you/have you ever have/had a weight problem?
Kathy
 
A great idea, instead of pointing out the obvious, why not say something along the lines “hey, how about we go to the mall and go window shopping?” Or after overweight/obese relatives are dining with you, say “After the dishes are cleared how about we take a walk and talk about what’s going on in each others lives”.
 
Island Oak…do you/have you ever have/had a weight problem?
Kathy
No. The only time I’ve ever had to really focus on it was pregnancy-related weight gain (40+ lbs. for each of 3 pregnancies). I now weigh about 5 lbs. more than I did in college, but as I head towards middle age, I have to pay attention and be diligent about my diet & exercise–or I would have have a problem.
 
With all consideration to those who have serious medical problems that affect their weight, it simply is absolute tommyrot that “most” obesity is caused by underlying medical condition. A country with 60% of its population 20% overweight does not have endemic hormonal disorders.

We are a fat nation because we eat more than we burn.

Take it from someone who lost 30 pounds simply by counting the calories: 6 years ago and it’s still off. Advice: NEVER use the “d” word.
 
…We are a fat nation because we eat more than we burn.

Take it from someone who lost 30 pounds simply by counting the calories: 6 years ago and it’s still off. Advice: NEVER use the “d” word.
This is true,a lot of us eat more than we burn. However, losing weight is NEVER a simple matter of counting calories.
Kathy
 
With all consideration to those who have serious medical problems that affect their weight, it simply is absolute tommyrot that “most” obesity is caused by underlying medical condition. A country with 60% of its population 20% overweight does not have endemic hormonal disorders.

We are a fat nation because we eat more than we burn.

Take it from someone who lost 30 pounds simply by counting the calories: 6 years ago and it’s still off. Advice: NEVER use the “d” word.
Mother Theresa thought the United States was one of the most emotionally and spiritually impoverished nations she had ever visited.

I think we have two things going. One: we eat to self-medicate for our disappointment that life isn’t what we think it should be and that we aren’t what we think we should be. What we think it should be has a lot to do with our having bought the lies of advertising, the lies of false glamour and imagined excitement, the lies of individualism, and so on. We are sold on a pursuit that will never satisfy anything but someone else’s bank account. Food is one of the things we are sold. Entertainment and novelty are others. Sex and vanity are others. Whatever sells. Nobody sells like we do.

Two: food manufacturers can make more money on fattening food than on healthy food. If you add enough salt, corn syrup, and hydrogenated oils, you can fool the palate with that. Over-refining adds to shelf life. Some advertising, particularly the encouragement to “Super Size” it, is nothing other than presenting a near occasion to the sin of gluttony. The lie that we always need to be in a hurry eliminates a great deal of health from our diets, too.

Our sin? We buy those lies. The OP has rejected some of those lies, and in that respect she’s on the right track.
 
With all consideration to those who have serious medical problems that affect their weight, it simply is absolute tommyrot that “most” obesity is caused by underlying medical condition. A country with 60% of its population 20% overweight does not have endemic hormonal disorders.

We are a fat nation because we eat more than we burn.

Take it from someone who lost 30 pounds simply by counting the calories: 6 years ago and it’s still off. Advice: NEVER use the “d” word.
I could lose 30+ pounds and I count calories to no avail… When I stopped smoking 20 years ago I gained 15 pounds and over the years have put on 15 + or more besides…
 
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