Islam 101 For Christians

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The Quran says that God has created man in the best of form. And yes in Islam like in Judaism we are prohibited from giving any attributes to God that he didnt give to himself as well as prohibited from liking him tyo anything of his creations.

The reason why trinitarians tolerate Judaism is because it came before them and their God was a jew. If it wasnt for that fact Judaism would be called evil same as they call Islam.

The Christian God is Jesus. He is totally different from what the Jews or Muslims worship. Jews of the arab world call God Allah same as muslims.

The problem with Christians that if they concede that Jews and Muslims worship the same entity then they would be left alone with their trinitarian belief.

Yes the Christian God is not the Muslim God . Also yes the Christian God is not the Jewish God . Plain and simple.

salam
Without bashing Christians, I just want to say that any conversation between jews and muslims about religion or anything else that doesn’t end in cursing is ok by me. There’s way too much of hatred on the net and I’ve always felt we are wasting a tremendous opportunity to build bridges between so many different people who, a generation ago, would never have had the opportunity to speak with each other.
 
Nope, went to work a Catholic, came back and people were calling me a Muslim in disguise.

A lone Raven

you don’t think my job has anything to do with it do you?
Do you work at the Hallal House of Pancakes?
 
Nope,
I work at a brewery,
and about the only food we serve is barbeque items
Including smoked bacon and barbeque pork.

I didn’t think my job would be too much of a Muslim influence on me.

A lone Raven
 
Without bashing Christians, I just want to say that any conversation between jews and muslims about religion or anything else that doesn’t end in cursing is ok by me. There’s way too much of hatred on the net and I’ve always felt we are wasting a tremendous opportunity to build bridges between so many different people who, a generation ago, would never have had the opportunity to speak with each other.
I am not bashing Christians really. If you read my posts in this forum you will notice that . The problems between Jews and Muslims these days are political and have nothing to do with theology. My Previous post is simply stating facts. There are wonderful Christisn and wonderful jews and wonderful muslims. and bad people in every religion. But to say that what the jews worship and what Modern Christianity worship is the saqme diety then this is wrong by all means.

salam
 
I am not bashing Christians really. If you read my posts in this forum you will notice that . The problems between Jews and Muslims these days are political and have nothing to do with theology. My Previous post is simply stating facts. There are wonderful Christisn and wonderful jews and wonderful muslims. and bad people in every religion. But to say that what the jews worship and what Modern Christianity worship is the saqme diety then this is wrong by all means.

salam
I didn’t mean to suggest you were. But sometimes when I agree with something about Islam, people think I am taking an anti-christian stance.
 
So Bella,

why dont you appologise for giving us misinformation about Islam? I have corrected you so many times and proven you wrong.

How about a declaration of infaliability and an admission of error.

You kept asking for a challenger to defend the muslim faith. Well finally you had one and he had proven you wrong. Now when you are proven wrong you forgot the whole subject and challenge?

i dont see you and Rodrigo as versed in Religions. You are versed in hating other religions.

Good luck with your career

meedo
I will not apologize for stating facts Mr. Meedo, I was not proven wrong and stand by 100% of what I said. I don’t have to prove it to you, if you were learned in your religion, you’d know, unless you are fooling everyone by this post as so they will think otherwise. What I say is truth and you know it. I don’t hate other religions, other religions hate us. That has been the problem for 2,000 years and always will be. Because Rodrigo and I agree, therefore we are not versed. Typical…
 
I will not apologize for stating facts Mr. Meedo, I was not proven wrong and stand by 100% of what I said. I don’t have to prove it to you, if you were learned in your religion, you’d know, unless you are fooling everyone by this post as so they will think otherwise. What I say is truth and you know it. I don’t hate other religions, other religions hate us. That has been the problem for 2,000 years and always will be. Because Rodrigo and I agree, therefore we are not versed. Typical…
you know… i will let it go just because i dont want to embarass you more. ll of the posters on this forum saw your ‘‘mistakes’’ when i replied to your opening post.

salam
 
you know… i will let it go just because i dont want to embarass you more. ll of the posters on this forum saw your ‘‘mistakes’’ when i replied to your opening post.

salam
No Mr. Meedo, you don’t want to embarrass yourself. Who are the 2 posters sir? Tell me so I can clarify my so called mistakes. I’ve even quoted in Sura…
 
inJESUS;1661016:
My opinion on that there is a gospel that has the story of Jesus talking while he is a baby that a truth has been ommitted from the book you have and claim to be an inspired Gospel.

The problem is not who was crucified. because we are talking about Jesus and not the one who was crucified instead of him. As for the Morality about it, it is same as Gods will. A murderer who was to be crucified wouldnt feel less or more pain if he was portrayed to be Jesus .

thanks

meedo
Excuse me, but who was crucified is important when you make a claim like that! You keep claiming that Jesus was not crucified and can’t even provide a concrete answer for that assertion. Muslim “logic” at its best!:rolleyes:

Vickie
 
yes Meedo there IS a gospel that has the story of Jesus talking while he is a baby. Did you read it? here it is , you can read it in 10mn:
newadvent.org/fathers/0806.htm

Do you believe this gospel is the inspired one and our is the uninspired one?
The problem is not who was crucified. because we are talking about Jesus and not the one who was crucified instead of him. As for the Morality about it, it is same as Gods will. A murderer who was to be crucified wouldnt feel less or more pain if he was portrayed to be Jesus .
so another man was portrayed to be Jesus, right? Allah made him look like Jesus?
 
The Quran says that God has created man in the best of form. And yes in Islam like in Judaism we are prohibited from giving any attributes to God that he didnt give to himself as well as prohibited from liking him tyo anything of his creations.
Really? Then why does Muhammad make himself his equal when saying that until one loves Allah and his prophet more than anything else he will not have the true faith?
The Christian God is Jesus. He is totally different from what the Jews or Muslims worship. Jews of the arab world call God Allah same as muslims.
Correction! The Christian GOD is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit!
The problem with Christians that if they concede that Jews and Muslims worship the same entity then they would be left alone with their trinitarian belief.

Yes the Christian God is not the Muslim God . Also yes the Christian God is not the Jewish God . Plain and simple.

salam
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Meedo,
Thanks for the information. I would like to pose a few more questions because I am curious:
  1. What does Muslim tradition think of the 12 Apostles of Jesus? I assume not too highly since they would have been responsible for the “dietification” of Christ according to your tradition. Is this accurate?
  2. Why do you not believe it was possible for Christ to have been put to death on the cross? Many other prophets in the Old Testament were killed so why would it not be possible that God would allow it?
Many Thanks
 
Bella. I wish you well. But I don’t think there’s any point in continuing any conversations.
As long as you are on these threads, I have a right to defend my Lord, Jesus Christ. Does the prosecution rest? :rolleyes:
 
Muslims worship the God of Abraham. Christians worship the God of Abraham.
How do you know Muslims worship the god of Abraham? Since Quran is not even a revelation from God, its impossible for Muslims to worship God; rather they pretend to worship God but actually the worship an Arab idol.
Now, obviously the Muslims have an incorrect understanding of who and what that God is and THAT is the difference.
If its simply not understanding God, why does not God show the Muslims the truth? Why has He led 1 billion Muslims astray? I dare say Muslims are pretending to worship God but in truth they worship an Arab idol that is located at the Kaabah in Makkah.
You might as well say that the Jews worship a different God than Christians because the Jews do not believe in the Trinity either.
Why should I say the Jews do not worship God? The Jews are blessed with the Scriptures, the covenants, the prophets, and the Christ himself. Everything is theirs says the Holy Apostle Paul, himself a Jew. Also, the Jews do believe in Trinity - just ask Rabbi Moshe Roisen.
No I am not saying that Islam is equal to Christianity, before anyone accuses me of that.
This contradicts what you said above.
 
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