Islam as a system of life

[R_not]

That is abuse, not useful. No real argument is there. Only false adverse thinking and may be considered a model of bad Catholicism. Or we may say that is the real Catholic thinking?

Chrisse, any one can make a bad video. I have a book “Da Vinci Code” and a Video too of same title. It is telling that Jesus was surely secretly married to Mary Magd and he had a son from her too.

I am not advertising that video unless you would like me to do so. I feel like believing that Jesus being a perfect man, must have been married and had children. What do you sy about that? But I do not advertis ethat.

It appears that you are a non-Catholic fellow having no faith in any religion. You may be an Atheist, damned Atheist heading for hell. Your destination is hell. So go there. But do not mislead others with your false foul ideas.

Once again, what she is saying is exactly what is gotten from your own islamic texts. mohammed thought the devil went up people’s noses at night and they were to blow three times (3 was a magic number to mohammed) to expell him.

You continually accuse people of things and especially of things that are in your own texts and then who are you to say anyone is going to hell, or heaven, for that matter?

 

[planten]

It is in your own hadiths that mohammed took his stepson’s wife.

O.K. I will look in your bibleNT about the pregnancy of Mary before marriage while she was still in the temple. That was before she met her real husband, Joseph the carpentar.

Would you please explain that to any one? Your bible is like our Hadith, and inferior to our books of Hadith.

 

[R_not]

O.K. I will look in your bibleNT about the pregnancy of Mary before marriage while she was still in the temple. That was before she met her real husband, Joseph the carpentar.

Would you please explain that to any one? Your bible is like our Hadith, and inferior to our books of Hadith.

And if you find it - then START A THREAD ABOUT IT. Get real, you are trying to silence/censor people by your threats. It gets tiring.

You have yet to prove it is corrupted. Go on, prove it and don’t use an illiterate pagan’s word of it being corrupted.

We look forward to the challenge - but you have yet to do that. I have been asking you for months now to do that.

Islam is a system of life - and we are to cower to it or you are not happy.

 

[Aydan]

hey watch this guy because because he just accused someone of lying on my thread. I guess he has a right to do it but then he’s going to report you for it you should see what he wrote on my thread

It is in your own hadiths that mohammed took his stepson’s wife.
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It is in your own texts that mohammed was overly concerned with people’s commode behavior. sharia law

These are not false words. The problem is that the texts are so full of a mohammed that was an Adulterer, Bandit, Immoral, Inhuman, Looter, Lecher, Misogynist, Murderer, Materialistic, assasin, Narcissist, Pedophile, Raider, Rapist, Slavetrader, Sexmaniac, Terrorist, Torturer, Vengeful Warlord.

Every single one of the above accusations can be backed up by your own koran and/or hadiths. The sunnah is based on the hadiths.

 

[R_not]

hey watch this guy because because he just accused someone of lying on my thread. I guess he has a right to do it but then he’s going to report you for it you should see what he wrote on my thread

Thanks.

this is becoming more common. Muslims are using threats, lawsuits, etc to intimidate people to not discuss islam. They are even using the UN to shut other countries’ citizens up.

this is actually serious business with the muslims these days.

I have said previously (not lately) that there is a stealth jihad going on and it is very serious. Their goal is not necessarily to convert us, or kill us, but to subjugate us.

From the DVD, The Third Jihad, muslim Dr. Zuhdi Jasser:

Abu Jahya al-Libi, Al Qaeda leader
‘According to our belief, the whole world must be under the rule of islam without exception, even a single grain of soil.’

Islamic Law Rally 2007.

• 70,000 to 80,000 turned out in support of sharia

Yousef Khattab, supporter
-‘islam will dominate, this is what it will be.’
-‘We want to see sharia here and it will be. The flag of , “there is no god other than allah, muhammed is the messenger of god”, will be (god willing) on the White House, if thats where we choose it to be. It just takes time, the American people are waking up now.’
-‘There is no compulsion in islam, that means, we cannot force it on you, but we will force islamic (sharia), god willing.’

Abu Mujahid, spokesperson islamic Thinkers Society (ITS)
‘allah does say that the whole world will eventually be under his rule. The rule will come down to where everyone obeys the laws of god (sharia), as simple as that.’

(my comment: all these guys have the same goals as Al Qaeda)

Dr. Zakir Naik
‘In some islamic countries, eg: saudi arabia, etc propogation of other religions is prohibited. Even construction of any place of worship is also prohibited. in koran 3:85, it is mentioned that allah will never accept any religion other than islam therefore knowing that islam is the only true religion we do not allow propogation of any other religion.’

TWO JIHADIST STRATEGIES

• Violent
• Cultural, or Stealth
  both have the same end goals for non-muslims - sharia laws and subjugation

some videos on the stealth jihad in the West

Article about the document, The Project, found stating their stealth jihad

The Project in English

We have also found documents in our own country - Government Exhibit 300-0085

Take note how they use the MSA (muslim Student Association), CAIR, and other organizations to their own end.

a couple of books,
‘A Never Ending War’,
‘Stealth Jihad: How Radical Islam is Subverting America without Guns or Bombs’ and

Senator Feinstein has written a response back to me about HR 6975, ‘jihad Prevention Act’. It is to require new immigrants to sign this to attest they will not work towards instilling sharia laws.

As a side note, right now we are being warned from saudi arabia to stop our support of Israel.

islam is certainly more than a religion - it is imperialistic and governs not only the umma, but the umma’s potty behavior - ok, I had to get that in!

 

[Cathy]

Christianity is a way of life, too,
the Way of the Cross, following our Lord and God, Jesus Christ.
The servant is not greater than the master.
His weakness is stronger than our strength.

St. Bakhita, pray for us.

 

[Aydan]

abuse? You call this abuse? But yet you accuse people of lying just because they don’t agree with your ideology or your Koran. You cannot be respectful to those who disagree with you and you must put them down with your personal attacks I see it repeatedly. if you can not remain respectful perhaps you should leave if you don’t like what people have to say.

That was abuse. Very abusive false words and Have to be reported as abuse.

 

[Aydan]

Originally Posted by planten

It appears that you are a non-Catholic fellow having no faith in any religion. You may be an Atheist, damned Atheist heading for hell. Your destination is hell. So go there. But do not mislead others with your false foul ideas.

Now this is what I call abuse you have no right to say these things what are you a messenger from Allah [The Islamic version] and you get to decide who goes to heaven and who goes to hell? On what authority do you base these claims?

 

[chrisse]

That is abuse, not useful. No real argument is there. Only false adverse thinking and may be considered a model of bad Catholicism. Or we may say that is the real Catholic thinking?

Chrisse, any one can make a bad video. I have a book “Da Vinci Code” and a Video too of same title. It is telling that Jesus was surely secretly married to Mary Magd and he had a son from her too.

I am not advertising that video unless you would like me to do so. I feel like believing that Jesus being a perfect man, must have been married and had children. What do you sy about that? But I do not advertis ethat.

It appears that you are a non-Catholic fellow having no faith in any religion. You may be an Atheist, damned Atheist heading for hell. Your destination is hell. So go there. But do not mislead others with your false foul ideas.

The Da Vinci Code, I loved the book, the movie was lousy though. I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone. The book on the other hand was a great read. I got his other books, I love that mystery stuff, so much fun.

Planten, the Roman Catholic Church has a certain mystery to everyone and, Hollywood loves it. Of course, no one lost their head over making that movie, did they?

Tell me Planten, I’ve seen the disgusting videos of your muslim cowards when they have pronounced the death penalty on innocents without trial. They do so in the most blood thirsty and painful way, when they are ALWAYS with guns. Why, why, do they not do it humanely with one shot to the head (as wrong as that would be), and must make sure the person suffers so much?

Oh, don’t bother answering, I just remembered - mohammet ordered it.

 

[chrisse]

Planten is a coward of the worst sort. I have more respect for Osama Bin Laden, at least he speaks the truth of his cult.

Planten if the truth of your ideology pains you so much, why do you not just leave instead of trying to silence the messengers?

 

[Aydan]

uch:
he had the wrong information your profile says Roman Catholic sounds like he is the one who needs to be worried not you!

Planten is a coward of the worst sort. I have more respect for Osama Bin Laden, at least he speaks the truth of his cult.

Planten if the truth of your ideology pains you so much, why do you not just leave instead of trying to silence the messengers?

 

[chrisse]

abuse? You call this abuse? But yet you accuse people of lying just because they don’t agree with your ideology or your Koran. You cannot be respectful to those who disagree with you and you must put them down with your personal attacks I see it repeatedly. if you can not remain respectful perhaps you should leave if you don’t like what people have to say.

I think it’s also abusive false words that Planet et el are issuing in here with their da’wa and taqiya. I do not appreciate propaganda and having to expose it for what it is in case someone without any knowledge of Islam falls for it.

 

[planten]

No, R_Not, you see the devil is waiting everywhere to sleep in nostrils, to wrap himself around the man’s penis etc. And if you don’t enter the toilet with the correct foot - there satan is again. The muslim is in big doodoos.

Of course, mohammet’s mother and father weren’t muslims. So his father, who miraculously hadn’t been around for 4 years before mohammet was born, wouldn’t have said the required prayer before intercourse with his wife. So, according to mohammet, satan had wrapped himself around his father’s penis and was the one who had intercourse with mohammet’s mother.

Here’s an excellent video on the issue you raised. The only way to deal with this disgusting cult is to try and put humour on it.

au.youtube.com/watch?v=-u1718IXsHs&feature=channel_page

**chrisse, please read your beautiful words you have used about Muhammad. You should surely be ashamed of yourself by now. You can never be a pious person or a christian or a Catholic. **

 

[Aydan]

**chrisse, please read your beautiful words you have used about Muhammad. You should surely be ashamed of yourself by now. You can never be a pious person or a christian or a Catholic. **

I ask you again on what authority do you have to say whether or not someone is pious or Christian? Do you have the power to read minds or hearts? Are you all knowing like Allah [Islamic version]? Why are you making judgments about things you cannot possibly know? Are you making yourself a partner with Allah [Islamic version]? Have you forgotten the teachings from your Koran:
Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin most heinous indeed] (An-Nisaa’ 4:48
I hope you are severely punished for making such statements and judgments.INSHALLA
By the way, there’s no such thing as Catholics and Christians because** Catholics are Christians!** You should not speak about things that you do not know!:tsktsk:

 

[chrisse]

**chrisse, please read your beautiful words you have used about Muhammad. You should surely be ashamed of yourself by now. You can never be a pious person or a christian or a Catholic. **

Thank you Planten for caring for my salvation. I would just let you know my aim is not to be a pious person, that is not in my calling.
Maybe we have a different understanding of pious though.

My words may be at times harsh, insulting, offensive, sarcastic, and satirical. It is true as a Catholic Christian I must not act this way towards others, however, you seem to think that a Christian must be so towards all things. I disagree.

Reality : in my non-cyber life towards those I meet in everyday circumstances I am mostly that way. I am human, and sometimes make mistakes. These mistakes I usually regret, and repent and work towards not repeating.

Reality : as a Christian, Catholic or not, I must not respect, condone or tolerate evil. The devil does not like exposure, the devil does not like to be made fun of, the devil doesn’t handle any of these things, because the devil is the Emporer without any clothes.

Planten as you believe that Allah is the G-d of Abraham, I believe allah is satan. As you know that Allah is the G-d of Abraham, I know allah is satan.

I pray for you Planten, and your fellow muslim brothers and sisters on this board and all over the world, that your eyes closed shut will be opened and you will see the Lord in all his glory and love.

 

[Aydan]

chrisse,
Speaking God, I don’t know if you’re aware of this but Arabic Christians use the word Allah when referring to God also it’s not just Islamic. I also use it myself it is just the Arabic word for God and I choose to use it when I am speaking Turkish. Of course when Christians use it we are referring to the Trinity which is why you see me writing stuff like Islamic version to distinguish the Islamic use of Allah versus its Christian meaning. Please be careful when you write stuff using Allah because otherwise Arabic Christians and in my case a Turkish Catholic who also uses Allah might think you are talking to them as well

Thank you Planten for caring for my salvation. I would just let you know my aim is not to be a pious person, that is not in my calling.
Maybe we have a different understanding of pious though.

My words may be at times harsh, insulting, offensive, sarcastic, and satirical. It is true as a Catholic Christian I must not act this way towards others, however, you seem to think that a Christian must be so towards all things. I disagree.

Reality : in my non-cyber life towards those I meet in everyday circumstances I am mostly that way. I am human, and sometimes make mistakes. These mistakes I usually regret, and repent and work towards not repeating.

Reality : as a Christian, Catholic or not, I must not respect, condone or tolerate evil. The devil does not like exposure, the devil does not like to be made fun of, the devil doesn’t handle any of these things, because the devil is the Emporer without any clothes.

Planten as you believe that Allah is the G-d of Abraham, I believe allah is satan. As you know that Allah is the G-d of Abraham, I know allah is satan.

I pray for you Planten, and your fellow muslim brothers and sisters on this board and all over the world, that your eyes closed shut will be opened and you will see the Lord in all his glory and love.

 

[Aydan]

Planten, I owe you an apology as well. I just realized I was rather harsh in my last post. What I should’ve said and what I meant to say is this I hope that you will repent for the things you have said before you are punished by Allah. I did not mean to say that you should be punished by him. I’m sorry for the harsh words.

I ask you again on what authority do you have to say whether or not someone is pious or Christian? Do you have the power to read minds or hearts? Are you all knowing like Allah [Islamic version]? Why are you making judgments about things you cannot possibly know? Are you making yourself a partner with Allah [Islamic version]? Have you forgotten the teachings from your Koran:
Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin most heinous indeed] (An-Nisaa’ 4:48
I hope you are severely punished for making such statements and judgments.

INSHALLA
By the way, there’s no such thing as Catholics and Christians because** Catholics are Christians!** You should not speak about things that you do not know!:tsktsk:

 

[planten]

I pray for you Planten, and your fellow muslim brothers and sisters on this board and all over the world, that your eyes closed shut will be opened and you will see the Lord in all his glory and love.

chrisse, calling allah as satan, Your prayer is doomed. Your prayer means nothing and will not be heard by any spiritual power. You have no spirit but only an ugly mind.

 

[Aydan]

planten
Now you know that Islam and Christianity have different concepts of God and you know that many people believe that the Islamic God is different then the God that Christians believe in. Many Christians also believe that it was not actually angel Gabriel who appeared to Mohammed but instead it was one of Satan’s Angels pretending to be Gabriel so you know that chrisse was not really calling God Satan. Many Muslims also accuse Christians of worshiping three gods instead of one but they know that that is not true at all. I don’t accuse them of devil worship because they don’t like the fact that I believe in The Holy Trinity but yet they accuse me of not worshiping God when Christians also worship only one God.

chrisse, calling allah as satan, Your prayer is doomed. Your prayer means nothing and will not be heard by any spiritual power. You have no spirit but only an ugly mind.

 

[R_not]

Ok, here are the texts that say that Satan is up a person’s nose - and some more - ALL from mohammed/allah (mohammed’s alter ego)

So planten you need to stop putting curses on people for quoting ISLAM’S OWN TEXTS!

Muhammad said that upon awakening one must
blow his nose three times to rid himself of the Devil, who spends the night in a man’s nostrils (Sahih Bukhari IV, 516; Muslim I, 462),

that yawning is from Satan (Bukhari IV, 509),

that if a Muslim falls asleep praying Satan urinates in his ears (Bukhari II:245),

and people who pray with their eyes lifted toward heaven might have their eyes snatched away (Muslim I, 863).

And Bukhari is an authorized translation - there are 5 authorized translations of which Bukhari is one of them.