Islam is BAD!!!

[bcm6987]

There is a person being described as father Corapi. I wanted to know if that father Corapi was married. That is because I see so many unmarried fathers in christians. Nothing more.

Oh, I see planten! You are making fun of our priesthood!! That , my lying friend, would get me killed by order of your “peace loving imams” if the roles were reversed. After all, islam is a “peace loving religion”, correct? Or is this perhaps another acceptable lie to get real peace loving people to convert to your twisted ideology?

 

[R_not]

The word peace in islam (i.e., salaam) is the same as peace in Judaism (i.e., shalom).

Muhammad was at war.

In wars, people kill other people. An unfortunate fact of our existence.

Except that this definition does not apply from muslims to infidels/kafur.

and as for wars - islam has two realms of which the world is divided into (which is very much a fascist mindset) and that is the realm of war (dar al harb) and the realm of islam (dar al islam). If the land is not under sharia law then the land is in the realm of war which means to muslims they are in a constant state of war.

In islam, muslims kill other people all the time and if they kill women all they have to say is that it is an ‘honor killing’, and if they kill infidels - that is ok too since they are considered less than pigs, dogs and feces.

The words of a muslim that islam is peace only applies to other muslims - but they sort of forget to mention that in all their da’wa to us infidels.

 

[medallionsnijme]

is Fr. Corapi married!:bigyikes: i read that and laughed! honestly, i couldnt help it! Planten, if i were you i would watch Fr. Corapi on EWTN sometime and you tell me if he has any interest in women. AND if youve heard him speak, you would know what kind of a life he lead before he became a priest. hes definitely NOT married** he’s very much - VERY MUCH - devoted to God alone! though i bet Fr. Corapi would get a chuckle out of that…

…imams can have wives…or maybe just one, but ive always said that if a man needs more than one wife, then shes not doing her job properly! (or the men are just greedy…too many women to choose from!)

 

[medallionsnijme]

(just to cover my behind, i wasnt trying to state that priests should have wives (err, a wife, girlfriend,lover,mistress, whatever you wanna call it). im totally against priests marrying! just saying that to be safe!)

 

[medallionsnijme]

…though i believe its legal for them to have seven wives isnt it?..thats one for every day of the week! wow! thats not right.

 

[inJESUS]

Your Father Corapi is married?? Most of you have earned a lot of respect by your posts on this thread, having a good time as one way traffic on both sides.

what made you ask this question? the word “father”?

 

[planten]

**Please indicate where you need any clarification, about the un-married father or about his belief that some educated people can be ignorants.

In the meantime, you can educate me about how a person who is un-married can be a father?**

 

[dzheremi]

I’m still waiting to hear from Sister Amy what this “special” Arabic/Hebrew/Semitic language speakers’ meaning of “peace” that I will never understand might be. Come on, Sister Amy…I’m a linguist! I’m interested in this idea!

Y’know, I’ve known many Ethiopians…they too are native speakers of Semitic languages (Amharic and Tigrigna). Most are Christian (Ethiopian Orthodox). Their greeting is also “Selam” (same S-L-M root as in the other Semitic languages). From their actions, I have no reason to believe that their idea of peace is any different than mine or any other Christians’, no matter what their background.

 

[R_not]

…taqiyya and qitman does not mean every single Muslim will lie about his religion in all circumstances and all the time…most of the posters here present what they know and believe without lying…and usually it is a Shia thing…Sunni do not believe it despite the ample Shia evidences…

That is actually something they always say. they will blame the other sect for doing it. It is just a tactic to deflect and confuse the fact that they do indeed deceive about islam.

What they do is present islam as they know it, but most of their assertions about peacefulness only apply to other muslims.

 

[inJESUS]

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In the meantime, you can educate me about how a person who is un-married can be a father?**

the Quran is called the mother of books…how can it be a mother without being married?

 

[medallionsnijme]

**Please indicate where you need any clarification, about the un-married father or about his belief that some educated people can be ignorants.

In the meantime, you can educate me about how a person who is un-married can be a father?**

hi planten

in Christianity, men who become priests are known as “Fathers”. this is because his parish, or group of people he leads in the Faith are like his children. they come to him for advice and to receive the Sacraments from him. its also a title of respect. i hope that helped

p/s: im sorry if i offended you by laughing, i didnt mean it harshly, i got a chuckle out of it because in seeing Fr. Corapi on tv, there is no way he’d be married!

 

[dzheremi]

**Please indicate where you need any clarification, about the un-married father or about his belief that some educated people can be ignorants.

In the meantime, you can educate me about how a person who is un-married can be a father?**

Father is an official, honorific title within the Church, Planten. It has nothing to do with biological fatherhood. In the same way that founding “fathers” of a country did not actually create the country by biological means.

As to how an unmarried person can be a father…they can be divorced from the woman they had the child with, or they can have fathered the child out of wedlock. Though neither are ideal or “good” situations, they do happen.

 

[planten]

** No such thing. I am here reading your post and find it untrue. Or your judgement is wrong. That is all. You post something good. I will admire it. When you post something which I feel is wrong then surely I have the right to express myself.

You find that bad. It is upto your capability, nothing wrong with me.**

 

[medallionsnijme]

we also believe that priests cannot marry because of their vocation to follow Christ and that they are dedicated to Him alone.as well as this, Christ never married so they also never marry (unless they decide not to be a priest anymore, but thats another story)… by vows priests “marry” themselves to Christ and His Church. A priests “bride” IS the Church and he is solely dedicated to serving that Church…

 

[planten]

I guess Planten thinks and writes that way because he is a devout Muslim and he was educated that way. Most of the time he needs to defend his faith against us at the expense of logic and his personal tenets. Whenever he feels in panic, he starts writing posts without thinking.

IMPO, it is good to have posters like Planten here. His posts help us see how Muslims generally view our faith. Thus, we should not attack him personally.

**I do not have to defend anything at the expense of logic. For instance I have the right to ask the christians bout how a person can be called a father when he is not married. Am I illogical or you are illogical. The problem with youis that you use too many words symbolically. Then later you try to take them into the realm of reality. That is not a good practice. Please why can you people nottalk in real terms.

I have nothing against you. You have assessed me. I do not mind if you attack me. But please do not attack my religion in a wrong or bad way. Do not attack my religion for which your own religion may also be a deafualter. Thanks.**

 

[planten]

Oh, I see planten! You are making fun of our priesthood!! That , my lying friend, would get me killed by order of your “peace loving imams” if the roles were reversed. After all, islam is a “peace loving religion”, correct? Or is this perhaps another acceptable lie to get real peace loving people to convert to your twisted ideology?

**I could not understand what you mean. I am not making fun of your system. But the matter is questionable or not, even sincerely? Why you use such wrong terms?. Just because of those things you have created a havoc in the religious world. You have the begotten too.Quite unreal. The father is also unreal. My objection is only to that point. It is no joke or fun.

I am entitled to ask such things when you people start threads such as " Islam is Bad!!!" What right have you? Can you not think of something better?

I could not understand anything of your post what you are trying to tell me about Imam and lying and killing. Tuks.**

 

[planten]

is Fr. Corapi married!:bigyikes: i read that and laughed! honestly, i couldnt help it! Planten, if i were you i would watch Fr. Corapi on EWTN sometime and you tell me if he has any interest in women. AND if youve heard him speak, you would know what kind of a life he lead before he became a priest. hes definitely NOT married** he’s very much - VERY MUCH - devoted to God alone! though i bet Fr. Corapi would get a chuckle out of that…

…imams can have wives…or maybe just one, but ive always said that if a man needs more than one wife, then shes not doing her job properly! (or the men are just greedy…too many women to choose from!)

Yes, he may be a good person, God fearing. That is beside the point. There are people like that. The thread is " Islam is bad!!!". So I thought to checkout about christianity, what it was advocating in the world. How good and real it was. I have nothing against that un-married father. May Allah grant him some good children too.

 

[medallionsnijme]

Yes, he may be a good person, God fearing. That is beside the point. There are people like that. The thread is " Islam is bad!!!". So I thought to checkout about christianity, what it was advocating in the world. How good and real it was. I have nothing against that un-married father. May Allah grant him some good children too.

hi planten let me explain, and i dont mind you asking questions, they are all welcome ask away! anyways, the Father, like Father Corapi, isnt an actual father as in he has had children with a woman. He has no biological children. the people that come to him and go to his Church (the people he serves) are like “adopted” children. does that make more sense? if you want a good link to see what Christians believe compared to muslims look here: catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/islam/muhammad.htm

salaam aleikom, planten!

 

[R_not]

**I do not have to defend anything at the expense of logic. For instance I have the right to ask the christians bout how a person can be called a father when he is not married. Am I illogical or you are illogical. The problem with youis that you use too many words symbolically. Then later you try to take them into the realm of reality. That is not a good practice. Please why can you people nottalk in real terms.

I have nothing against you. You have assessed me. I do not mind if you attack me. But please do not attack my religion in a wrong or bad way. Do not attack my religion for which your own religion may also be a deafualter. Thanks.**

As do muslims use words with different meanings in their deception to us.

such as ‘innocent’, or ‘peace’, to give two examples. I have already given a full list of the ones I have already compiled in an earlier post.

Muslims do not think that any infidel is innocent, but when cornered they will say such things as, ‘we do not believe in the killing of innocents…’ when in fact they aim for children’s schools or where they hang out such as pizza parlors. And while the violent jihadists do that - the ‘moderates’ tell us deceiving statements. The ‘moderates’ ulalate when their children blow themselves up killing others, such as children, because they make themselves ‘martyrs’.

Or the word ‘peace’. Muslims don’t recognize any peace with infidels unless they are dead, forced to convert to islam, or subjugated.

And another favorite of mine that muslims mislead the infidels with are these two words, ‘peace treaty’. The muslims know that they are not to honor any peace treaty with infidels and are to break it whenever they are rearmed/regrouped. that is why the day after a peace treaty is made the muslims are already back in the streets fighting.

This is why no peace with Isreal - their twisting of the words that the Israelis are the aggressors or the occupiers, when in fact the muslims are the ones in the wrong.

Your ‘religion’ says we are worse than dogs and your ‘moderate’ muslims don’t even dare to tell us that for fear there will be a big problem when they go and migrate to other lands and plan for their eventual takeover.

Non-Muslims: Worse than Animals
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middle east conflict: youtube.com/watch?v=vf8-NFeYPr0
David Horowitz, the middle east conflict: youtube.com/watch?v=dnIKRse86GU

IF the above is not true - then why don’t ANY ‘moderate’ muslim of importance do something about it?! Instead they not only support it, but the ‘moderates’ give to charity that goes to this sort of murder, hatred and chaos around this globe.

It is happening all over. jihadwatch has articles on what is happening in the Philippines, India, Europe, Africa, Eastern Europe, etc.

 

[R_not]

Yes, he may be a good person, God fearing. That is beside the point. There are people like that. The thread is " Islam is bad!!!". So I thought to checkout about christianity, what it was advocating in the world. How good and real it was. I have nothing against that un-married father. May Allah grant him some good children too.

Not everything is about the physical world, but this is a good insight into islam. It is about the corporal world. Sex, the controlling of even how a muslim goes to the bathroom, heaven being a lusty paradise for the males and a sort of hades for the women since they are forced to be with a male for eternity with 72 others and be a perpetual virgin, etc. It is an insight as to what islam is all about.

sharia law (the law they have stated they want to replace our constitution with):
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