ISLAM

[Franze]

Jennie66:

I have a serious problem with how Muslims treat females in general. I used to live in Western Europe, where the Muslim population is growing by leaps and bounds. I personally witnessed, in public, some of the most disrespectful treatment of women I have ever seen. Any Muslim country you want to look at, poor treatment of women and girls is a hallmark: not allowed to be educated, to drive, even in some instances to receive needed medical care. I remember news features in Germany (where I lived) of young girls who were murdered by their fathers or other male relatives who believed these girls were becoming “too Westernized”. I find this dispicable. You cannot reconcile this treatment of women and girls to a religion of peace. Sorry.

Honour killings are like murrah( I think that say that) pre-islamic costumes maintaned by islam, the second was a short marriage for having sex.
It´s miserable, Turkey, a defended country by many for being westernized, have 200 honour killings cases.
But in UK, France, and Germany there are cases. It´s sad.

 

[StMarkEofE]

We are to love our enemies and we will at our own peril.

StMarkEofE

"We have ruled the world before, and by Allah, the day will come when we will rule the entire world again. The day will come when we will rule America. The day will come when we will rule Britain and the entire world - except for the Jews. The Jews will not enjoy a life of tranquility under our rule, because they are treacherous by nature, as they have been throughout history. The day will come when everything will be relived of the Jews - even the stones and trees which were harmed by them. Listen to the Prophet Muhammad, who tells you about the evil end that awaits Jews. The stones and trees will want the Muslims to finish off every Jew."

Monday, May 16, 2005

****MEMRIalestinian Sermon: We (Muslims) Will Rule America; Jews Like AIDS Virus ****

Special Dispatch- PA/Antisemitism Documentation Project
May 17, 2005
No. 908

This Week’s Palestinian Authority Sermon: We (Muslims) Will Rule America;
Israel is a Cancer; Jews are a Virus Resembling AIDS; Muslims Will Finish
Them Off

The following are excerpts from this week’s official Friday sermon on
Palestinian Authority ¶ TV.(1) The preacher is Sheik Ibrahim Mudeiris, a
paid employee of the PA. To view the sermon visit
memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=669 .

"Allah has tormented us with ‘the people most hostile to the believers’ -
the Jews. ‘Thou shalt find that the people most hostile to the believers to
be the Jews and the polytheists.’ Allah warned His beloved Prophet Muhammad
about the Jews, who had killed their prophets, forged their Torah, and sowed
corruption throughout their history.

"With the establishment of the state of Israel, the entire Islamic nation
was lost, because Israel is a cancer spreading through the body of the
Islamic nation, and because the Jews are a virus resembling AIDS, from which
the entire world suffers.

"You will find that the Jews were behind all the civil strife in this world.
The Jews are behind the suffering of the nations.

"Ask Britain what it did to the Jews in the early sixth century. What did
they do to the Jews? They expelled them, tortured them, and prevented them
from entering Britain for more than 300 years. All this was because of what
the Jews did in Britain. Ask France what it did to the Jews. They tortured
them, expelled them, and burned their Talmud, because of the civil strife
the Jews wanted to spark in France, in the days of Louis XIX. Ask Portugal
what it did to the Jews. Ask Czarist Russia, which welcomed the Jews, who
plotted to kill the Czar - so he massacred them. But don’t ask Germany what
it did to the Jews. It was the Jews who provoked Nazism to wage war against
the entire world, when the Jews, using the Zionist movement, got other
countries to wage an economic war on Germany and to boycott German
merchandise. They provoked Russia, Britain, France, and Italy. This enraged
the Germans toward the Jews, leading to the events of those days, which the
Jews commemorat today.

(Continued on next page)

 

[StMarkEofE]

We are to love our enemies and we will at our own peril.

StMarkEofE

(Continued from last page)

"But they are committing worse deeds than those done to them in the Nazi
war. Yes, perhaps some of them were killed and some burned, but they are
inflating this in order to win over the of the media and gain the world’s
sympathy. The worst crimes in history were committed against the Jews, yet
these crimes are no worse than what the Jews are doing in Palestine. What
was done to the Jews was a crime, but isn’t what the Jews are doing today in
the land of Palestine not a crime?!

"Look at modern history. Where has Great Britain gone? Where has Czarist
Russia gone? Where has France gone - France, which almost ruled the entire
world? Where is Nazi Germany, which massacred millions and ruled the world?
Where did all these superpowers go? He who made them disappear will make
America disappear too, God willing. He who made Russia disappear overnight
is capable of making America disappear and fall, Allah willing.

"**We have ruled the world before, and by Allah, the day will come when we **
**will rule the entire world again. The day will come when we will rule **
**America. The day will come when we will rule Britain and the entire world - **
**except for the Jews. The Jews will not enjoy a life of tranquility under our **
**rule, because they are treacherous by nature, as they have been throughout **
**history. The day will come when everything will be relived of the Jews - **
**even the stones and trees which were harmed by them. Listen to the Prophet **
**Muhammad, who tells you about the evil end that awaits Jews. The stones and **
trees will want the Muslims to finish off every Jew."

Endnotes:
(1) Palestinian Authority TV, May 13, 2005.

For more information on the subject: See “Palestinian Authority Sermons
2000-2003,” December 26, 2003,
memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sr&ID=SR2403

*MEMRITV Clip No. 647, “Sheik Ibrahim Mudeiris in a PA Friday Sermon: Muslim
Prisoners Are Forced to Convert to Christianity in Iraq, Afghanistan, and
Palestine,”
memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=647

*MEMRI TV Clip No. 608, “Palestinian Authority Friday Sermon: The Time Has
Come for the ‘Great Jihad,’” memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=608

*MEMRI TV Clip No. 563, “Sermons on Palestinian TV,”
memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=563

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[jimmy]

I don’t think they worship the same God as us. It is neither a matter of faith nor morals that it would be the same God. Therefore it is not an infallible claim if the pope says they worship the same God as us.

 

[jimmy]

StMarkEofE:

"**We have ruled the world before, and by Allah, the day will come when we **
**will rule the entire world again. The day will come when we will rule **
**America. The day will come when we will rule Britain and the entire world - **
**except for the Jews. The Jews will not enjoy a life of tranquility under our **
**rule, because they are treacherous by nature, as they have been throughout **
**history. The day will come when everything will be relived of the Jews - **
**even the stones and trees which were harmed by them. Listen to the Prophet **
**Muhammad, who tells you about the evil end that awaits Jews. The stones and **
trees will want the Muslims to finish off every Jew."

This is the whole point of Islam. They want to take over the entire world and convert everyone to their belief.

 

[StMarkEofE]

jimmy:

I don’t think they worship the same God as us. It is neither a matter of faith nor morals that it would be the same God. Therefore it is not an infallible claim if the pope says they worship the same God as us.

IMHO, just think about this a little: If the Muslim faith is THE faith then why did God send His only Begotten Son into this world to suffer and die on the cross to save sinners? Why not just reveal His intentions to a nomad of the desert and save all the torment? Did God make a mistake in sending His Son and tried to mend things by revealing this new desert religion? The Muslim faith plain and simple is an apostacy and heresy which denies the Trinity.

StMarkEofE

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

theors:

I have read the Qu’ran and my conclusion is that it is NOT a religion of peace, etc. It is a political philosophy, like Naziism or Communism, that is disguised as a religion. It’s basic tenet is to remove anyone who does not accept it by any means possible
(murder, assasination, etc.). The god of Islam IS NOT the GOD
that Christians and Jews worship (if you don’t believe me, read the Qu’ran).

You CANNOT dialogue or reason with Islam. Islam today is still intent on conquering the world and is seeking revenge for the humiliation of the Crusades. There is no such thing as a good or sympathetic or cooperative Muslim.

Exactly the same can be said of Catholicism - war, assassination, religious war, rebellion, anathemas and excommunications have all played their part in the history of the CC. (Presumably the Muslims I’ve been fortunate enough to know are not “real Muslims” - which is exactly what is sometimes said of Catholics who do not fit certain Protestant stereotypes)​

The God of the OT is not the most peaceful of deities - far from it. As atheists rightly point out. “But that can be explained”, we might say - certainly it can: and maybe Muslims have perfectly good explanations for those passages in their holy book to which we object.

Once we start saying what certainly looks like “The only good Muslim is a dead one”, we are not far from translating thought into action. So much for *our *credentials as followers of a peaceful religion Peace is something that needs constant work, and it begins in the human heart - not in that of others, but in our own. For our own, are the only ones we can directly govern. ##

My question is, when is the Church (the Vatican) going to wake up and recognize what Judaism has know for centuries…you
cannot make peace with Satan and his cohorts?

That sort of language merely encourages people to sanctify their own hatreds by reasoning that they are doing the will of Christ Muslims are human beings as much as we are, made in the image of Christ as truly we are.​

 

[jimmy]

StMarkEofE:

IMHO, just think about this a little: If the Muslim faith is THE faith then why did God send His only Begotten Son into this world to suffer and die on the cross to save sinners? Why not just reveal His intentions to a nomad of the desert and save all the torment? Did God make a mistake in sending His Son and tried to mend things by revealing this new desert religion? The Muslim faith plain and simple is an apostacy and heresy which denies the Trinity.

StMarkEofE

The Muslims claim that Christ did not die on the cross. They claim that it was some other man. They claim Christ was taken into heaven like Elijah. I agree completely that they are apostacy and heresy.