The Quran was made widespread in one dialect. However, people still learned the other seven and passed it on, so that when people like you accuse us of the differrences in it, we can show you that no its not changed or different. The Quran however does not state this. Even though the Quran doesnt state this, doesnt mean its not existent.
Its Oral Tradition, how can you proove it? Furthermore, how do you not know that the Sumerian had not just written down these Oral Traditions, and thus the Bible took it from them?
Many different translations were made, but if someone wants to read the original language of the Bible, they study Koine Greek and ancient Hebrew, as many do at Christian seminaries.
You know what’s really hilarious? The flood is recorded in the Koran.
No, if you read the post i was replying to then you will understand what i meant. I know that he is wrong, and i said that even many Christians will agree. Read the post i was replying to.
The question is placed that Quran got its story from the Bible, when we say it was revealed by God. We were just saying that even certain things in the Bible can be found from before its time, does it mean that it plagiarized it???You know what’s really hilarious? The flood is recorded in the Koran.
We sent Noah (of old) unto his people, and he said: O my people! Serve Allah. Ye have no other Allah save Him. Lo! I fear for you the retribution of an Awful Day. The chieftains of his people said: Lo! we see thee surely in plain error. He said: O my people! There is no error in me, but I am a messenger from the Lord of the Worlds. I convey unto you the messages of my Lord and give good counsel unto you, and know from Allah that which ye know not. Marvel ye that there should come unto you a Reminder from your Lord by means of a man among you, that he may warn you, and that ye may keep from evil, and that haply ye may find mercy. But they denied him, so We saved him and those with him in the ship, and We drowned those who denied Our tokens. Lo! they were blind folk. [S. 7:59-64]
Recite unto them the story of Noah, when he told his people: O my people! If my sojourn (here) and my reminding you by Allah’s revelations are an offence unto you, in Allah have I put my trust, so decide upon your course of action you and your partners. Let not your course of action be in doubt for you. Then have at me, give me no respite. But if ye are averse I have asked of you no wage. My wage is the concern of Allah only, and I am commanded to be of those who surrender (unto Him). But they denied him, so We saved him and those with him in the ship, and made them viceroys (in the earth), while We drowned those who denied Our revelations. See then the nature of the consequence for those who had been warned. [S. 10:71-73]
I guess Mohammad ripped off the ancient Sumerians too.
Isn’t it mentioned in the Acts of the Apostles that “Christian” (and by implication, “Christianity”) was first used in Antioch? Also, the “rock” is not the Vatican itself, but (most directly) the man Simon Peter, and thus the Pope. That the Pope’s see happens to be Rome is incidental (but most significant due to Peter and Paul’s martyrdoms there); for some time he was based in France! The gates of Hades will never prevail against the Church, not specifically the “Peter-person” (but then again the Pope is part of the Church). Some may also find the term “Roman Catholic” problematic since there are Catholics who are “non-Roman” or more precisely perhaps, “non-Latin”.
Ah…this is so blatant excuse of hiding behind a “god” that can’t work together with human being. I can also say the same thing to you! The OT was written down by men with the inspiration given by God. U can’t say that they plagiarized those stories!
If it was in that form then it wouldnt have been acceptable, would it.
Because there was only one Quran per region, thats why certain people wrote down the verses.
This is in prayers when it is recited, and a person makes a mistake, someone corrects them. They are corrected based on the original text of the Quran, not based on a persons
EXACTLY, you cant give a reasoning to us saying trying to prove the Quran is false, when the same reasoning fits your Bible.
Not everything, just the Quran, and a few of the Hadiths, called Hadithe Qudsi. How does he not know, and have no clue. Can you show me? Wow where are you getting all these No’s from. The Quran talks about The Prophet Salih, and Hud, who came to the Arabs. And the Arabs can attest to them also. Yes, they have been tested and verified. Obviously, many of the accounts in the Quran were attested by human beings. Here you go, answering no to all these questions which you yourself pose,
Many Prophets in the BIble had MANY MANY wives. Soloman had how many? And then your bible comes along and says you can only have one.
**Christos is right, 100%. The catholics have no law about marriages or divorce. King Soloman had 300 wives and 1000 concubines. Nothing is known about the first thirty (30) years of Jesus life from the bible. It is good that Quran does not mention anything bad about any man of God, Joseph son of Jacob, jacob and Issac and Moses and Jesus. But Jesus had said that all who came before him were robbers and decievers. That is in the bibleNT.
What do u mean? I don;t get it! I know who u are now, a real example of muslim circular logic. I cannot expect any straight logic with u! Here is ur prev comment:
So I repeat my prev question: where is this dialect can be found. Don’t the different dialect will make confusion because one will means diffrent with another?
I thought all muslims have already come to the consensus of apologetics by saying that those people were able to memorize them completely without err. So no need to write down. Or if someone was not correct, someone would correct it verbally not by writing it downn. How can u come to the conclusion that there was only one copy of Koran per region. Do u have any back up or is it just ur imagination?
I thought my prev comment and so ur subsequent comment should relate to what u posted earlier:
which was later on I commented:
why are u trying to escape? Or u’re really that forgetful?
Any proof of this? I believe in the Hadith it is said that it was scatterd and some were missing, so they had to do something to compile that. And if Uthman’s job was to make a copy or the original, why burn the original one? It only means that ur koran u have now is the creation of Uthman which could be greatly possible to be different then what “Gabriel” revised together with Muhammad…right? And why didn’t Gabriel came to Uthman to legalizd that copy?
Who is that propeht Salih and Hud? If u don’t mind me enligheten me with the stories of those prophet of the Arab.
Yes, according to what Muslims claim. If not, just exactly what does “has not changed from the original by a single mark” mean?
What does this mean?
The other person would be intimidated to keep silent, and even if he spoke up, he would be put down and told he is wrong. People naturally outwardly agree with the loudest voice out of fear of being ridiculed. I’ve seen it happen over and over all my working career.
I thought it was not written until after his death.
There is no accusaions in my inquiry - you didn’t answer my question