Israel 'ready for escalation' of Gaza conflict

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Darryl1958 said:
Jim R Jharek, Dwyer, Gnishad, and yourself express hostility toward the Jewish state of Israel.

Your point of view is well represented here.
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It’s not hostility it’s bewilderment and secondly internationally only chili stood up to Israel .

I understand why a majority of Christians support Israel because of some misguided intrerpritation on scripture.
 
Kithrus said:
Why is everyone cheering on Israel?
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That is the $64,000 question!

My hunch is that they are cheering for a narrative (hasbara) about Israel that nothing to do with the Israel of today. Put in a familiar idiom, it is not your father’s Israel anymore.

I would heartily recommend getting a copy of a book I am reading now, called

Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel by Max Blumenthal. The book deleves into the disturbing realities emerging in Netanyahu’s Israel, realities you won’t hear about in the US media.

Blumenthal finds:

Israel is now a place where…

State-funded Orthodox rabbis publish books that provide instructions on how and when to kill Gentiles

Half of Jewish youth declare their refusal to sit in a classroom with an Arab

Mob violence targets Palestinians and African asylum-seekers scapegoated by leading government officials as “demographic threats”.

Around the world, people see Israel’s barabrism toward the Palestinians for what it is and are rightly repulsed. But here in America, the relaity has not sunk in.
 
gnjsdad said:
Gaza: Israel’s $4 billion gas grab

A prosperous Palestine is the last thing the Israeli governmment wants. It would rather appropriate resources for itself and keep the Palestinians destitute than have to bargain with an economically comparable Palestine.
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I tend to agree that whatever money might be made from the sale of natural gas would go to Hamas and the Palestinian people would see very little.
 
Darryl1958 said:
Jim R Jharek, Dwyer, Gnishad, and yourself express hostility toward the Jewish state of Israel.

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I am against what Israel is doing, not against the state of Israel.
 
Darryl1958 said:
Jim R Jharek, Dwyer, Gnishad, and yourself express hostility toward the Jewish state of Israel.

Your point of view is well represented here.
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I don’t hold hostility toward Israel, but oppose the Israeli government policies which oppress the Palestinians. I also oppose Hamas campaign of launching missiles into civilian areas of Israel, in order to get the IDF to react.

However, I just don’t turn a blind eye when they commit atrocities, especially with the annual $3.1 billion in USA aid to Israel.

The fact that Netanyahu continues to allow Jewish settlements to be built in the occupied West Bank, is the main driving point for the Palestinians to hate Israel. Even Jewish moderates have protested the settlements knowing it causing injustices to the Palestinians, which only feeds the flames of anger.

The problem is that under Netanyahu and Hamas, the moderates of both sides have been silenced and the extremists are the cause of the suffering we’re seeing in the news today.

Jewish Voice for Peace provide an video, Israel-Palestine 101. I recommend that everyone watch the video, you’ll have an understanding of why there is so much hatred by the Palestinians toward the Jewish State of Israel.

Jim
 
gnjsdad said:
That is the $64,000 question!

My hunch is that they are cheering for a narrative (hasbara) about Israel that nothing to do with the Israel of today. Put in a familiar idiom, it is not your father’s Israel anymore.

I would heartily recommend getting a copy of a book I am reading now, called

Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel by Max Blumenthal. The book deleves into the disturbing realities emerging in Netanyahu’s Israel, realities you won’t hear about in the US media.

Blumenthal finds:

Israel is now a place where…

State-funded Orthodox rabbis publish books that provide instructions on how and when to kill Gentiles

Half of Jewish youth declare their refusal to sit in a classroom with an Arab

Mob violence targets Palestinians and African asylum-seekers scapegoated by leading government officials as “demographic threats”.

Around the world, people see Israel’s barabrism toward the Palestinians for what it is and are rightly repulsed. But here in America, the relaity has not sunk in.
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Good post, however, per the US Media, I think a CNN reporter just got put on leave for saying some sort of anti-Israeli remark. Point being, I don’t think the US Media is that much in favor of Israel.

Gaza is probably getting pounded, I know of one Palestinian who was a bit on edge.

I think terrorist incidences that have been reported on going back to the Munich Olympics leaves a bad impression of the Palestinian side.
 
The battle between Israel and Hamas militants in Gaza saw its deadliest day Sunday for both sides.

Eighty-seven Palestinians died, at least 60 of them in Israel’s assault on the town of Shaja’ia, the Gaza Health Ministry said.

The Israel Defense Forces said 13 soldiers were killed. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, at a news conference, expressed the country’s “deep pain” at the loss of the soldiers.

In total, 425 Palestinians have been killed, according to the Gaza Health Ministry. It’s unknown how many were militants. The United Nations has estimated that 70% were civilians.
cnn.com/2014/07/20/world/meast/mideast-crisis/
 
Path_Finder said:
Good post, however, per the US Media, I think a CNN reporter just got put on leave for saying some sort of anti-Israeli remark. Point being, I don’t think the US Media is that much in favor of Israel.
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I think you are referring to Diana Magnay, who was pulled a couple days ago

CNN has removed correspondent Diana Magnay from covering the Israeli-Palestinian conflict after she tweeted that Israelis who were cheering the bombing of Gaza, and who had allegedly threatened her, were “scum.”

“After being threatened and harassed before and during a liveshot, Diana reacted angrily on Twitter,” a CNN spokeswoman said in a statement to The Huffington Post.

“She deeply regrets the language used, which was aimed directly at those who had been targeting our crew," the spokeswoman continued. "She certainly meant no offense to anyone beyond that group, and she and CNN apologize for any offense that may have been taken.”

The spokeswoman said Magnay has been assigned to Moscow.
huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/18/cnn-diana-magnay-israel-gaza_n_5598866.html

Here is the controversial tweet, before it was taken down:
buzzfeed.com/dorsey/israeli-crowd-cheers-as-missile-hits-gaza-live-on-cnn

NBC News had previously reassigned one its reporters, after he posted tweets which were sympathetic to the Gazans.

Only days after NBC removed him from its coverage of the fighting in Gaza, the correspondent Ayman Mohyeldin will be reinstated and sent back into the region, the network said Friday evening.

The decision to pull Mr. Mohyeldin off the story, after he witnessed an Israeli air attack that killed four Palestinian children and then posted remarks on Twitter about it, prompted a round of questions, and much criticism of NBC among Internet commenters. Some accused the network of reacting to pressure from the Israeli side of the conflict. Mr. Mohyeldin is an Egyptian-American who previously worked for the cable news channel Al Jazeera English.

Other commenters speculated that NBC might have felt that Mr. Mohyeldin showed too much empathy in his social media comments. At one point he wrote, “just spent 45 min see family relative after relative learn that their children have been killed in #Israeli shelling of #Gaza port #horror.”

When it removed Mr. Mohyeldin, NBC did not give a reason for its decision, which was first reported by the news sites TVNewser and The Intercept, other than unspecified security concerns.
nytimes.com/2014/07/19/business/media/nbc-correspondent-ayman-mohyeldin-is-returned-to-gaza.html?_r=0
 
If I remember correctly, the word “condemn,” in UN diplomatic language, is close to the harshest of criticisms.

U.N., Qatar condemn Gaza killings, call for immediate ceasefire

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon condemned as an “atrocious action” the killing of dozens of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip by Israeli shelling on Sunday and called for an immediate end to almost two weeks of fighting.

Ban, in Doha on the first leg of a Middle East tour to try to end the bloodshed that has cost more than 400 lives, met Qatar’s Emir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and Qatari Foreign Minister Khaled al-Attiya before heading for Egypt.

“While I was on route to Doha, dozens more civilians have been killed in the Israeli military strikes . . . in Gaza … I condemn the atrocious action,” he said in a statement after talks with Attiya.

“Israel must exercise maximum restraint. I repeat my demands to all sides that they must respect international humanitarian law. The violence must stop now,” he added.
reuters.com/article/2014/07/20/us-palestinians-israel-qatar-idUSKBN0FP0A320140720

The news article mentions that the US has asked Qatar to mediate a ceasefire. However, US officials admit that Israel is unlikely to find Qatar acceptable, given its close ties with Hamas.
 
Kithrus said:
And here is the root
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I do not know their intentions.
Gnjsdad brought the Leviathan Gas Field to the table.
I am providing objective data in reference to its location and geological existence in case other posters like me profit from visualizing maps.
 
Pope sends message of closeness to argentine vicar in Gaza

aica.org/13043-el-papa-envia-mensaje-de-cercania-al-parroco-argentino-en.html

Once again I apologize for Spanish source.
Father Jorge Hernandez is a missionary from the Verbo Encarnado. There are sisters of the same community there too. The parrish is Sacred Family.
Pope has sent message comforting Father , sisters and their community…
Sister Laudis who is now in Beit Jala after moving from Gaza says Father translated the message into arab and the article says that families there are moved and comforted by Pope Francis’ message in this terrible moment they are experiencing.
Pope Francis tells them he is with them in prayer and closeness. He asks Jesus to bless them and Holy Mary to take care of them.

Forgive me if there are mistakes ,I think you can understand the message anyway.
 
graciew said:
Pope sends message of closeness to argentine vicar in Gaza

aica.org/13043-el-papa-envia-mensaje-de-cercania-al-parroco-argentino-en.html

Once again I apologize for Spanish source.
Father Jorge Hernandez is a missionary from the Verbo Encarnado. There are sisters of the same community there too. The parrish is Sacred Family.
Pope has sent message comforting Father , sisters and their community…
Sister Laudis who is now in Beit Jala after moving from Gaza says Father translated the message into arab and the article says that families there are moved and comforted by Pope Francis’ message in this terrible moment they are experiencing.
Pope Francis tells them he is with them in prayer and closeness. He asks Jesus to bless them and Holy Mary to take care of them.

Forgive me if there are mistakes ,I think you can understand the message anyway.
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The Bishop of Rome sent a short message to the Catholic community before the Israeli army began its ground offensive: “I accompany you with my prayers and my closeness. May Jesus bless you and the Blessed Virgin protect you”

Israel is preforming genocide and the world is shrugging its shoulders. I can’t stand it!
 
Kithrus said:
The Bishop of Rome sent a short message to the Catholic community before the Israeli army began its ground offensive: “I accompany you with my prayers and my closeness. May Jesus bless you and the Blessed Virgin protect you”

Israel is preforming genocide and the world is shrugging its shoulders. I can’t stand it!
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I don’t see genocide happening.
 
Please do me a favour , I get the info from Aica which is a Spanish Catholic reliable source. There I get news from this parrish in Gaza. Do you have A similar source so I do not have to translate the messages.for you ?
Thanks so much.
 
I do not know what genocide means in Jesus’ heart.I know He would have died for me only anyway.as unworthy and unmerited as it may be.
Ceasefire.
Let us pray they find a mediator now !
 
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