AMEN! God Bless, MemawAnd the Spirit gives each of us the gift of discernment which we are to prayerfully use with the view to determine what is true and good. Scripture tells us to test everything and retain only what is good. We have been given the truth as it has stood for centuries and our full assent to it will enable us to know *if *any thing goes awry.
Pope Francis is clearly influenced by the left. When he is wrong he should be called out, just as Paul called out Peter for his hypocrisy. Pope Francis is doing many great things, but he is also making some major errors in my opinion. I wish he would stick to matters of faith and morals.The status quo needing to change has nothing to do with global warming. It has to do with the complacent, sclerotic Vatican bureaucracy. People get upset when traditions of men (not Sacred Traditions) are violently truncated. Francis is comorting the afflicted and afflicting the comfortable. Under Francis, I hope we see no more bishops who fill the thrones of the Apostles but not their shoes; no more looking the other way when scandal and corruption happens on their watch; no more “bishops of bling”.
Say what you want about global warming. Just because Francis agrees with it existing doesn’t mean he’s been influenced by the Left, or the eugenics industrial complex, or whoever. Maybe he truly sees it as a problem. I don’t know if I believe in global warming, but it’s not like he’s obsessing on it.
Seriously, people just need to lighten up and give Francis a break.
Abortion is legal due to politics. Babies are being murdered because of the failure of many Catholics and other Christians to stand up for them.I think part of his problem is that many Catholic Americans don’t use Christ as their prism (where Francis clearly does) but rather their politics.
Being a disciple of Christ has nothing to do with politics. The Gospel has nothing to do with politics.
Can you give an example of something you think he is wrong on? I honestly think Pope Francis is every bit as traditional as Pope Emeritus Benedict was, in fact I think in some ways he sticks more clearly to the tradition of St. Thomas Aquinas than Pope Emeritus Benedict has. Everything Pope Francis has said, Pope Benedict said first, and St. Thomas Aquinas said or implied before them. Can you think of a counter-example?Pope Francis is clearly influenced by the left. When he is wrong he should be called out, just as Paul called out Peter for his hypocrisy. Pope Francis is doing many great things, but he is also making some major errors in my opinion. I wish he would stick to matters of faith and morals.
I think he is wrong for advocating greater state control of economies. I think he is wrong for wading into the AGW debate on the side of the left wing alarmists. I think he is wrong for criticizing capitalism, which has pulled more people out of poverty than any other system.Can you give an example of something you think he is wrong on? I honestly think Pope Francis is every bit as traditional as Pope Emeritus Benedict was, in fact I think in some ways he sticks more clearly to the tradition of St. Thomas Aquinas than Pope Emeritus Benedict has. Everything Pope Francis has said, Pope Benedict said first, and St. Thomas Aquinas said or implied before them. Can you think of a counter-example?
I agree with this post. I have a problem with his political stands but he preaches an unabashed faith.I think he is wrong for advocating greater state control of economies. I think he is wrong for wading into the AGW debate on the side of the left wing alarmists. I think he is wrong for criticizing capitalism, which has pulled more people out of poverty than any other system.
I think he is right that we need to focus on Jesus and to speak boldly about our faith.
I like Pope Francis, but he makes me cringe occasionally.
I think he needs to be more careful and specific with his language.Chestertonrules , have you considered he may referring to Capitalism as a worldview ?
What is the framework through which we understand the world , ethics , values.?
How do things look through Christian lenses ?
Just a thought.
I agree with this. Thank God I am not alone. To me he sadly seems to be more of a liberal politician than a holy man. Like a liberal politician he seems to want to be everything to everybody. Like a liberal politician he is very unforgiving to those who do not agree with him. The destruction of the traditional family is accelerating and soon it will be a rare exception yet he seems to align himself with the leftists taking it down. Sure, he gives lip service to the family but negates it with some of his statements that seem to give permission to everyone to do anything without any moral repercussions. It just makes raising children in this troubled world that much harder. When will we get a break?I think he is wrong for advocating greater state control of economies. I think he is wrong for wading into the AGW debate on the side of the left wing alarmists. I think he is wrong for criticizing capitalism, which has pulled more people out of poverty than any other system.
I think he is right that we need to focus on Jesus and to speak boldly about our faith.
I like Pope Francis, but he makes me cringe occasionally.
Can you give a quote or two where he said this? I would like to compare them to what Pope Benedict. Then I’d like to check and see if St. Thomas Aquinas said anything similar.I think he is wrong for advocating greater state control of economies.
Give me a quote or two and I’ll compare it to what Pope Benedict called for. I’d like to compare it to St. Thomas Aquinas, and though you might not expect to find much about St. Thomas Aquinas and global warming, or environmentalism, in fact he does talk about man’s dominion over creation and the sin of wastefulness, and I think we’d be surprised how much we can infer from that for the debate about how to treat the environment.I think he is wrong for wading into the AGW debate on the side of the left wing alarmists.
In what quotation did the pope criticize capitalism? Because I’ve seen several articles defending him on that and saying that he has been misinterpreted, and I’m confident we could find that Pope Benedict said the same things, and that they have precedents in St. Thomas Aquinas.I think he is wrong for criticizing capitalism, which has pulled more people out of poverty than any other system.
The Pope has spoken about different issues , that readers have interpreted as marxist , leftist , or when speaking about free market as anticapitalist.and so on. Trying to make him fit into pidgeonholes.I think he needs to be more careful and specific with his language.
What is Capitalism as a worldview?
this statement from the OP article is as pithy as it is ironic.First, it can never be said enough that Pope Francis has invited a robust and open debate about issues in the Church, which certainly includes his own leadership. When someone voices reservations, therefore, it’s not an act of defiance so much as one of obedience.
I agree 100%…don’t have anything to add.I think he is wrong for advocating greater state control of economies. I think he is wrong for wading into the AGW debate on the side of the left wing alarmists. I think he is wrong for criticizing capitalism, which has pulled more people out of poverty than any other system.
I think he is right that we need to focus on Jesus and to speak boldly about our faith.
I like Pope Francis, but he makes me cringe occasionally.
Fine, but you didn’t answer my question. What do you mean by Capitalism as a worldview?The Pope has spoken about different issues , that readers have interpreted as marxist , leftist , or when speaking about free market as anticapitalist.and so on. Trying to make him fit into pidgeonholes.
Though I myself need " eye surgery " ,God is good and patient. He keeps trying the Christian glasses.on me until I do away.with ideologies , idols , lefts and rights , and learn to see through His eyes. Then we can.say that Marxism as ideology is wrong but the marxist friend I have is a good person.
The Social Doctrine of our Church ,our Church teachings , the patient helping us adapt our eyes and hearts to be conformed to Jesus ’ eyes and heart is nothing else than trying to get closer to God.
All the labels start.to.blur and disappear , and our choices are not conformed to our wants and " truths" but to the needs of those who have.neither voice nor choices.
Realitybis not what we want.to.see.but what it is.And it is through God s eyes.
This is my understanding.
Here you go:Can you give a quote or two where he said this? .
I did. It is the framework of belifs through which an individual or a society perceives the wide world. It orientates and defines your values.Fine, but you didn’t answer my question. What do you mean by Capitalism as a worldview?
I did not read this post before I posted. Well , that s better in his own words. Thanks !Here you go:
While the income of a minority is increasing exponentially, that of the majority is crumbling. This imbalance results from ideologies which uphold the absolute autonomy of markets and financial speculation, and thus deny the right of control to States, which are themselves charged with providing for the common good. (5/16/13)
Rampant capitalism has taught the logic of profit at all costs, of giving to get, of exploitation without looking at the person… (5/21/13)
…these things become the norm: that some homeless people die of cold on the streets is not news. In contrast, a ten point drop on the stock markets of some cities, is a tragedy. A person dying is not news, but if the stock markets drop ten points it is a tragedy! Thus people are disposed of, as if they were trash. (6/5/13, Environment)
It is a well-known fact that current levels of production are sufficient, yet millions of people are still suffering and dying of starvation. This, dear friends is truly scandalous. A way has to be found to enable everyone to benefit from the fruits of the earth, and not simply to close the gap between the affluent and those who must be satisfied with the crumbs falling from the table, but above all to satisfy the demands of justice, fairness and respect for every human being. (6/20/13)