James White Has Completely Lost It [Akin]

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White is a brilliant theologian, with a superb understanding of the biblical languages, an excellent grasp of church history, and a great sense of humor; one with which he can laugh at himself, and at you—get a grip!

And once you’ve gotten a grip, get a sense of humor! 😃
Praying that his passion will lead him to the fullness of faith.

The peace of Christ.
 
White is a brilliant theologian, with a superb understanding of the biblical languages, an excellent grasp of church history, and a great sense of humor; one with which he can laugh at himself, and at you—get a grip!

And once you’ve gotten a grip, get a sense of humor! 😃
Exactly! Mr. White’s passion for the Lord Jesus, his encyclopaedic knowledge of Sacred Scripture, and his great oratory skills will make him one of the greatest Catholics of this century! There will be celebrating in heaven when he comes into full communion. Let’s pray for the day!

Christ’s PEACE to all.
 
Has Pastor Don spoken to Dr White? Or is this just a way to link to Pastor Don’s site? If you are sincere, then are you going to ask Pastor Don to speak to Dr White?
Sorry Ani…I only posted that link to see what Truthstalker meant. He had discouraged us from discussing this in post 119 and to let James White’s “church leaders” handle the situation.

My curiosity was peaked…I’m still not sure who is James White’s leader(s) since he is so Sola Scriptura. If the answer is the Bible, then I am not sure how the Bible is going to handle the situation. 🙂 If the answer is Pastor Don, and James White has a concept of a churchly authority, then he’s closer to converting to Catholicism than I thought. 🙂

For the record, Ani, I think we are “handling” it the best way possible by praying. 🙂
 
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Philthy:
Hi Sandusky!

As always, you bring up some good points and a welcomed opposing view. I do find it a little surprising that you don’t seem to recognize a basic element at play here: criticisms of theology are completely separate from hostility directed at a person or group of people. If, for example, I was to ask you which element of Catholic theology was being “criticized” by those photos, would you be able to identify it? Works righteousness, or perhaps Mary Worship? I dont think so; the photos are not addressed at Catholic theology they are addressed to Catholics or, perhaps, Catholic apologists. But even more important is the fact that some people were offended by what he did. And, of course, as you point out, that is a question of perception as to whether it was truly offensive. But where I believe you and Mr White are completely wrong is in the assessment of whose perception is more important: your own or the person you may have offended. You tacitly imply that if White perceives that the photos werent offensive, then he owes no one any sort of apology. I’ve interacted with you many times and know you to be an intelligent, considerate person. You rightly claim that “it is a question of perception”, but apparently wrongly conclude that perception translates into innocence. I disagree: to acknowledge that it is a matter of perception acknowledges that it is possible for another to perceive it as offensive even if you personally do not. I find it difficult to believe that you would not also see that it is irrelevent whether White perceives his actions as offensive. What he should be concerned about - as a Christian - is not his own perceptions and feelings, but those of his neighbor. This is even more critical when you voluntarily enter the public arena as he does. He can profess his intent at humor 'til he breathes his last breath - I have no problem with that - but he should begin by apologizing for having offended another person even if it was not his intent, and even if he believes that person meant to offend him. Dontcha think?
Thanks for the kind words toward me Phil; however, I think you are over-analyzing this, and that you would do well to read Akin’s blog, and the statements made there concerning this, and then read White’s blog, and the statements made there concerning this.

By the way, White has an open invitation to all on CAF to call-in to his dividing line program and discuss these issues with him, rather than, as he puts it, “hiding behind a keyboard,” (and I am not insinuating that you hide behind a keyboard, Phil, as by your own admission, you don’t follow this very much; however, many on this board do “hide behind a keyboard” with respect to comments directed at White).
 
Jesus Christ asks us to love our enemies. Enemies are not necessarily only those who physically harm or threaten you. An enemy can be someone who offends you (even friend or family). And one way of loving your enemy is to pray for them. So I do not recommend bashing Mr White “behind the keyboard” or to call his DL show to see who can “win the debate”. If Mr White has offended you–simply pray for him. This is a wonderful expression of your Christian love.

Peace,
Mickey
 
Jesus Christ asks us to love our enemies. Enemies are not necessarily only those who physically harm or threaten you. An enemy can be someone who offends you (even friend or family). And one way of loving your enemy is to pray for them. So I do not recommend bashing Mr White “behind the keyboard” or to call his DL show to see who can “win the debate”. If Mr White has offended you–simply pray for him. This is a wonderful expression of your Christian love.

Peace,
Mickey
AMEN! When we are re-united by Christ, we need have no differences! :gopray2:

The PEACE of Christ.
 
And one way of loving your enemy is to pray for them… Mr White has offended you–simply pray for him. This is a wonderful expression of your Christian love.
Yep and there is a prayer thread for Mr White on the Prayer Forum for just that purpose. I am posting the Divine Mercy Chaplet once a day and a request for intercession by the Saint whose feast it is every day. You can each post whatever prayer comes to mind for you. And I am hoping that you do. Thank you.
 
Thanks for the kind words toward me Phil; however, I think you are over-analyzing this, and that you would do well to read Akin’s blog, and the statements made there concerning this, and then read White’s blog, and the statements made there concerning this.

By the way, White has an open invitation to all on CAF to call-in to his dividing line program and discuss these issues with him, rather than, as he puts it, “hiding behind a keyboard,” (and I am not insinuating that you hide behind a keyboard, Phil, as by your own admission, you don’t follow this very much; however, many on this board do “hide behind a keyboard” with respect to comments directed at White).
I’m sure White has an open invitation to come over here and post.

I’ve been on talk radio myself; there’s a lot of nonsense which hosts sometimes pull to keep you from making your points.

Here, he can post all he likes, in full, and we can respond, at length, in full.

If he’s as brilliant and courageous as you claim why must he have home field advantage?
 
Thanks for the kind words toward me Phil; however, I think you are over-analyzing this, and that you would do well to read Akin’s blog, and the statements made there concerning this, and then read White’s blog, and the statements made there concerning this.

By the way, White has an open invitation to all on CAF to call-in to his dividing line program and discuss these issues with him, rather than, as he puts it, “hiding behind a keyboard,” (and I am not insinuating that you hide behind a keyboard, Phil, as by your own admission, you don’t follow this very much; however, many on this board do “hide behind a keyboard” with respect to comments directed at White).
Cuts both ways…Mr. White can come here and debate. 🤷 Have not seen him doing that. He seems to prefer, slinging mud from his own throne.:rolleyes:
 
Cuts both ways…Mr. White can come here and debate. 🤷 Have not seen him doing that. He seems to prefer, slinging mud from his own throne.:rolleyes:
You’re not thinking clearly; given the nature of this medium the result would be chaos; one needs only to look in on Akin’s blog concerning this to see that.

One on one on the phone; can’t beat it. 🙂
 
You’re not thinking clearly; given the nature of this medium the result would be chaos; one needs only to look in on Akin’s blog concerning this to see that.

One on one on the phone; can’t beat it. 🙂
Oh, he’s taking personal calls, now?

How about a public thread, with links, where a public record is provided for all to see?
 
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Teflon93:
I’m sure White has an open invitation to come over here and post.
And we are praying that he has a friend who will persuade him not to resist sufficient grace to lay down his differences and reconcile. In that way, sufficient grace will become efficacious grace.
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Teflon93:
I’ve been on talk radio myself; there’s a lot of nonsense which hosts sometimes pull to keep you from making your points.
I have been as well. It can be done, but it is really a contest of wit to see who can pull out the sound-bite-of-the-day. What profit is there in that? Hint: none.
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Teflon93:
Here, he can post all he likes, in full, and we can respond, at length, in full.
I suggest he have a persuasion of the heart, not a persuasion of strategy. Changing venues from his place to our place ain’t going to do much to heal the hurt.
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Teflon93:
If he’s as brilliant and courageous as you claim why must he have home field advantage?
I propose that he use his brilliance and courage to figure out the superior benefits of being simple and meek at this juncture in history.

May the Lord be first served.
 
Oh, he’s taken personal calls, now?

How about a public thread, with links, where a public record is provided for all to see?
He takes calls on his Dividing Line program.

If you call him, and ask him why he has no combox on his blog, I’m certain he will tell you; he minces no words concerning the reason for that. 🙂
 
He takes calls on his Dividing Line program. If you call him, and ask him why he has no combox on his blog, I’m certain he will tell you; he minces no words concerning the reason for that. 🙂
We have Catholic Answers Live. Did you know that? 🙂
 
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