Someone was featured in one of the interviews I saw last night, it may have been the same archaeologist you mentioned above, who said that he thinks the name looks more like Hanun, not that he’s certain.
That’s what I’d always learned but according to some scholar on TV last night, I think it was Dr. Tabor again, he said that scholars know Jesus had siblings.
This whole story is bunk. Just like the ‘James Ostuary’ story, which ran and ran until they arrested the forgers in Israel. Really look into this type of stuff first, rather than running with it because it fits into your way of thinking. Not one serious scientist or archaeologist gives this the least amount of credit. Read Biblical Archeology Magazine or go the their site or others reliable sites and see how they have been systematically taking Cameron et al, apart piece by piece, from his Exodus story on to this garbage. It is so stunningly ludicrous, with their assertions, leaps of logic, blatant disregarding of facts and obvious flaws in scientific evaluation, and dating problems and on and on, and also, the fact that ***IF ***Jesus did die, why would they bury him and mark the tombs IF they were trying to perpetrate a huge LIE, like the Resurrection. Taking into account the Apostles story, why would they not secretly bury him, unmarked and then, tell the great LIE of the Resurrection. All atheist savor to uncover the great lie of Jesus. These unbelievers always look for some great TRUTH to help undo religious morality or philosophy in order to justify their own lack of faith or aversion to religion. And it’s no small wonder it appears right before Easter. It’s bad science driven by money, greed, ego and the Evil One. Only a ‘relativist’ fool can’t see that.
I’m only aware of a couple of references, and the only one I remember is Mathew 13:54-55. In this context, jesus preaching in his home town, it is quite difficult to avoid the conclusion that the townfolk are referring to siblings, not some extended family cousins, or close associates.
I’m certainly no Biblical scholar, but that verse has always sounded rather clear to me that they were speaking of Jesus’ siblings, too, but upon looking up the definition of the word “brethren,” it could very much be a reference to his followers or group he surrounded himself with as opposed to siblings.
Not true, it’s quite the opposite, I’ll post some info later on this. Siblings is NOT necessarily implied, not at all. That reference in Semitic, and even as brought into the Greek can mean a lot of different things, understanding the application of that day. There are NO words for cousin, nephew etc, they would use the same reference to any family member. I’ll post a whole explanation on this. The English translation lacks full understanding of meaning here. Plus, as was the necessary custom, something any Hebrew family would NEED to adhere to, if Jesus had ‘brothers’ as in, what, step brother maybe, even so, at Jesus death, Mary would be taken into the brothers house. She would have to be taken by the brother, not given to ‘Johns’ care as was done at the foot of the cross. This was done very clearly. This would only happen IF a widower (husband dead) didn’t have another son. Women didn’t own property, etc and didn’t have property rights, only through male succession of land etc. Jesus was ‘taking care of her’ precisely because she DIDN’T have another male family member to go with. John took her into his home and cared for her.
Actually, everyone dismisses it because every serious scholar directly connected to the site dismisses it and always has. Many of those scholars are Jewish and therefore have no ulterior motive of protecting Christianity. What we are dismissing is not any kind of evidence but the unfounded claims of two film makers. More than one scholar has stated that the name Yeshua does not appear on any of the ossuaries. That devastating fact aside, their whole claim is based on the supposed mathmatical improbability of finding a particular grouping of names in one tomb. The main problem here is that they do not have the two pieces of information vital to making such a calculation: the total number of residents of Jerusalem and the surrounding area and the total number of people bearing the names in question. Without this information their claim is nothing more than fantasy. I am always amazed at the blind faith necessary to support an atheist position in the face of undeniable evidence that is acknowledged by every competent scholar that has reviewed the claim.
Yes, and Simcha Jacobovici, Cameron’s partner in this new farce, was a major player in that fake ossuary fiasco as well.This whole story is bunk. Just like the ‘James Ostuary’ story, which ran and ran until they arrested the forgers in Israel. .
What I’d like to see are definitive scientific studies done by reputable and highly respected scientists to disprove the claims, once and for all. James Cameron is highly successful and very much respected in his field. I doubt he’d be willing to put his reputation on the line like this unless he researched this subject from every conceivable angle and was pretty much convinced that the other side couldn’t swoop in and prove them wrong. He has too much to lose if he thought there was any way he could easily be proven wrong.
(Killing two birds with one stone…)
Most people are criticizing the DNA claim because of how thin and generally squirrelly it sounds. If they performed tests across multiple residents of the tomb, I’d be more impressed - and hey, maybe they did and just haven’t said so for some reason. But to only test the remains of who they think is Jesus, against the remains of who they think is Mary Magdalene, announce they’re not related by birth mother, and then jump to conclude ‘Well, then it’s very likely these two were husband and wife.’?
The highest numbers is one and 2 million.
The calculation is not that at all.
True. Conversely, claiming it isn’t His tomb doesn’t make it so, either. Using logic such as questioning why a family as poor as Jesus’s would have been buried there, a burial place that was for middle class people, or why they’d be buried so far from where they lived, proves nothing, since people do all sorts of strange things that defy logic. If this isn’t the Jesus’s burial site I would think it will be easy enough for scientists to disprove the claims through testing of the cave or ossuaries. Maybe they’re going to wait until after the airing of the documentary to get started.