Cute! Actually, I was a cradle Catholic who joined the LDS church in his early 20s, was an active, temple-worthy Mormon for 5 years and came to the realization that I was duped and deceived shortly thereafter.got it
***MEGATRON IS A CATHOLIC:thumbsup: ***
Gotta go with you on this one tequilamac…that is just way over the top and too much for me also.
No. Not at all. Sorry for even more confusion!
wasnt trying to be cute
…well ok just a bit
…wanted to let you know that I am sorry for confusing you for one of them when you really where one of us:thumbsup:Oh thank God. you had me really really scared there. so it would be safe to say though that there is a simple obsession with the dead.No. Not at all. Sorry for even more confusion!
Although I think Mormonism is jacked up, it’s not that nuts!
Seriously, it’s all good. As for my “Mormon past”, I’ve been around the block in the LDS church and am more than willing to expose and discuss elements of their theology. I’m sure that there are also quite talented and intelligent ex-Mos in here that are also quite handy, but I just wanted to “join the team” so to say.wasnt trying to be cute
they would not. They believe that only those who were married on earth can be sealed by proxy and then only to their earthly spouse. Now here is where it gets tricky… those who qualify for celestial kingdom but aren’t “sealed” become servants (ministering angels) there. Men can be sealed to an unlimited number of women and Mormon doctrine teaches that worthy women will be sealed to exalted men. So only men will be “ministering angels”. Of course what happens to those men who died before they were of age or didn’t have worthy wives to be sealed to? (it doesn’t matter if wife became unworthy later, they still had the sealing ordinance and believe the lord will provide wives in the afterlife but if they mere married outside the temple they have no promise) you see where this is going? some LDS believe that this all gets sorted out in the millennium. in any case the doctrine is clear that in the next life only polygamists are going to be Gods. If they didn’t practice polygamy on earth because the “prophet” said not to then they will be given wives in the next life.
Well, I don’t kow about an “obsession” but one of the supposed three primary tenets of the Mormon gospel is “salvation of the dead”.
Okay but that earlier was a serious boo boo that could be quite offensive to Mormons and others. Maybe we should ask the moderators to edit it out.
This helped bring my wife out of the Mormon cult, too!they would not. They believe that only those who were married on earth can be sealed by proxy and then only to their earthly spouse. Now here is where it gets tricky… those who qualify for celestial kingdom but aren’t “sealed” become servants (ministering angels) there. Men can be sealed to an unlimited number of women and Mormon doctrine teaches that worthy women will be sealed to exalted men. So only men will be “ministering angels”. Of course what happens to those men who died before they were of age or didn’t have worthy wives to be sealed to? (it doesn’t matter if wife became unworthy later, they still had the sealing ordinance and believe the lord will provide wives in the afterlife but if they mere married outside the temple they have no promise) you see where this is going? some LDS believe that this all gets sorted out in the millennium. in any case the doctrine is clear that in the next life only polygamists are going to be Gods. If they didn’t practice polygamy on earth because the “prophet” said not to then they will be given wives in the next life.
This is what finally got my wife to leave the Mormon church. She finally had to accept that Joseph Smith was a polygamist and that his teachings on this created doctrine of celestial polygamy. My Temple worker Mom tried real hard to make her think this was okay because we would only practice this in heaven where there was no jealousy.
The next trip to the temple my wife looked at the absence of any visible role of heavenly mother(s) and the plight of eve and decided to go to RCIA. we are now happy Catholics.
Thanks be to God.
I’m more than cool with having the moderators erase and remove those errant comments.
None on line right now. But I PMd one.
I think I mentioned the “every knee shall bow” scripture before, in a previous post. That scripture doesn’t mean they’ll all accept the gospel/God’s Law. After all, James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Okay but I don’t really feel like I can comment on this because I haven’t studied up on my purgatory. I know it doesn’t appear in the Bible so I guess I would need to study the library at www.catholic.com.
But it’s a much more compassionate concept than tossing out all the souls who were never baptised through no fault of their own. I understand that is not the Catholic teaching. My purpose isn’t to refute that teaching, only to explain why this scripture should be removed from the Mormon Stumpers list.
Baptising the dead is doing work for both God and ourselves as is most church work.
the cognitive dissonance required to say this amazes me. you made my point for me. Everyone will know. no one will need to be “taught”. Those who qualify for baptism of desire obviously would accept.
fair enough
that isn’t true. the only ones who are “tossed out” ARE in that state THROUGH their own fault. They rejected God. baptism of desire IS baptism. It IS a sacrament.
not what I meant. God doesn’t NEED us to do the work. so when folks are dead and we can’t interact with them there is no benefit to us or them. In fact there is the detriment that the time, talent and treasure expended on “redeeming the dead” leaves the living in need. God has already taken care of the dead. they go where they are supposed to according to his will.
are you serious? baptism for the dead isn’t supported in scripture even in the LDS church. The BoM teaches against it in principle and never mentions it explicitly. it is merely “tacked on” late in the D&C.
When you say anyone who qualifies as a Baptism of desire would obviously accept, I can’t really refute that anymore than you can prove it. Do Protestants accepted the Baptism by Desire concept? At least the ones on the A List?
This I believe is a mis-interpretation.
So true. We pray to the Father in Jesus’ name. But it’s not like we’re praying to Vishnu or Allah.
isn’t it though? You pray to Elohim. Who/what is Elohim according to LDS doctirne? he is an exalted man from an eternal progression of exalted men. That isn’t Allah but it is alot closer to vishnu than Christianity.
