Kasich Thread

[Cathoholic]

Kasich has hired a liberal Democrat to head a new LARGE GOVERNMENT bureaucracy that he (Kasich) invented in Ohio.

Kasich boasted about bringing “community and police together”.

Kasich (from here): And I created a big collaborative in Ohio, made up of law enforcement, community leaders. The head of my public safety and a former Democrat liberal state senator, Nina Turner, run it. They got together. They made recommendations on recruiting, on hiring, on the use of deadly force. And what we’re about to do is to bring community and police together, so we can have a win-win. We need more win-wins in America, and we don’t have to pick one over another or divide.

Kasich tries to brag that he is a police supporter.

In January 2008, Kasich was working for the Global Financial giant money lending institution, Lehman Brothers.

In 2008 Lehman Brothers who contributed to the “Bank Bailout” situation for U.S. taxpayers, went bankrupt and within 24 hours began to be “eaten” by larger Global money lending institutions. These other Global money-lending groups got even LARGER.

Also according to Wikipedia . . . .

Lehman’s bankruptcy filing is the largest in US history,[5] and is thought to have played a major role in the unfolding of the late-2000s global financial crisis.

Anyway in January of 2008, Kasich, who at the time was working for Lehman Brothers was pulled over by a police officer because he did NOT YIELD to an emergency vehicle.

Kasich drove his car along side a tow-truck when the area law requires drivers to yield away from them if possible (dash cam video is available).

Kasich did not abide by the law (“improper passing” of this emergency vehicle).

Kasich was cited by a police officer for this. The police officer was VERY RESPECTFUL to the Mr. Kasich (Remember. Kasich was NOT Governor at this time).

How did Kasich respond to the officer? (by Trashing him publicly)

Fortunately RealClearPolitics tells us EXACTLY HOW Kasich responded at a public event several days later (bold mine) . . .

“**He’s an idiot,” Kasich said about the officer. **“You just can’t act that way, and what people resent are people in government who don’t treat the client with respect,” Kasich told Ohio EPA workers ten days later, a video included above.

Kasich responded by PUBLICLY TRASHING the Police officer’s reputation to the Ohio EPA workers on 1/21/08 and referred to citizens as “clients” as bankers often do. (Admittedly not by “name” but “police” in a sense get generally branded by this)

You can watch the video here.

Haven’t we had enough of this trashing police (and for that matter politicians trashing our military) the last eight years?

Does America REALLY need MORE of this stuff?

What about NO NAME CALLING?

What about the ADULT IN THE ROOM?

What about Kasich wanting to get “MY MESSAGE” across?

 

[7_Sorrows]

I noticed how Kasich bragged about himself during the debates. it was very annoying. He also seems untrustworthy. After reading what Cathoholic has posted, I like him even less.

 

[carpenter383]

Thanks for posting Cathoholic. Important info, and put together well

 

[randomuser]

I noticed how Kasich bragged about himself during the debates. it was very annoying. He also seems untrustworthy. After reading what Cathoholic has posted, I like him even less.

Untrustworthy? He’s pro-life - he already de-funded PP in Ohio, something _____ only says he’ll do. Untrustworthy how? I’m flabbergasted at the attacks on a consistent pro-life candidate for whom we should all be grateful:

“Since becoming governor, Kasich has signed 16 Ohio Right to Life initiatives to protect women and their unborn babies, LifeNews reported. Ohio House Bill 294, which strips Planned Parenthood of more than $1 million in yearly federal grants, is the next pro-life bill on its way to Kasich’s desk.”
lifenews.com/2016/02/11/planned-parenthood-calls-john-kasich-an-extreme-anti-abortion-governor-his-response-is-priceless/

 

[_Abyssinia]

Kasich says he’s ‘willing to listen’ if Cruz wants to make a deal

washingtonexaminer.com/kasich-says-hes-willing-to-listen-if-cruz-wants-to-make-a-deal/article/2586315?custom_click=rss

 

[randomuser]

“Kasich is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. He’s going out there trying to sell himself as a moderate, he’s no moderate. He is an extremist,” says Kellie Copeland, executive director of NARAL Pro-Choice Ohio, an abortion rights advocacy group. “He is—if not the worst—among the worst of anti-choice governors in this country’s history.”
motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/wolf-sheeps-clothing-gov-kasichs-reproductive-rights-record

What’s truly “wonderful” in this election is not Planned Parenthood – except for abortion – it’s the pro-life leadership shown by Kasich.

 

[Lily_Bernans]

“Kasich is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. He’s going out there trying to sell himself as a moderate, he’s no moderate. He is an extremist,” says Kellie Copeland, executive director of NARAL Pro-Choice Ohio, an abortion rights advocacy group. “He is—if not the worst—among the worst of anti-choice governors in this country’s history.”
motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/wolf-sheeps-clothing-gov-kasichs-reproductive-rights-record

What’s truly “wonderful” in this election is not Planned Parenthood – except for abortion – it’s the pro-life leadership shown by Kasich.

He’s not as anti-abortion, pro-life as Cruz.

 

[randomuser]

He’s not as anti-abortion, pro-life as Cruz.

Kasich already yanked taxpayer funds from PP – and has never praised PP as “wonderful” (except for abortion) – so, if going by criteria of signed legislation: yes, more pro-life than Cruz.

 

[mary_bobo]

I noticed how Kasich bragged about himself during the debates. it was very annoying. He also seems untrustworthy. After reading what Cathoholic has posted, I like him even less.

I don’t call it bragging, I call it stating his record. How else would people know much about him if they wait for the press to tell us. If you were around when he was in the House, you would know what he accomplished there. We could sure use some of his fiscal responsibility now.

 

[JW55]

Seems to be less and less to like about John Kasich. His status was actually better when we didn’t know much about him.

 

[Path_Finder]

I don’t call it bragging, I call it stating his record. How else would people know much about him if they wait for the press to tell us. If you were around when he was in the House, you would know what he accomplished there. We could sure use some of his fiscal responsibility now.

Exactly, all of the candidates give their sales pitches; as Trump says “I’ve given thousands of jobs to people” and Cruz likewise. How else will people know? Kasich helped balance the budget with Gingrich in the '90s.

 

[FollowChrist34]

Exactly. And the longer it takes them to realize it, the worse it will be for them.

I don’t go quite that far, but I can’t deny that it’s staggering to consider that they are now just “one-third” of the GOP, alongside the Tea Party wing and the Trump wing. (Of course, we might need to stop calling them “wings”, since they are now less outsiders than the moderates are.)

Right - one more thought. If the GOP establishment doesn’t have the numbers or hutzpah to stop Obama; what chance does it have against Trump - Obama on steroids. The big Northeast money liberal republican establishment is in high gear and poised for a take over. I actually kind of wish they were running Scott Brown at the top of the ticket though. I would be a lot less nervous. No Mussolini quotes, etc. And at least with Brown you would know what would happen, for sure…not just mood, ego based.

 

[FollowChrist34]

Kasich says he’s ‘willing to listen’ if Cruz wants to make a deal

washingtonexaminer.com/kasich-says-hes-willing-to-listen-if-cruz-wants-to-make-a-deal/article/2586315?custom_click=rss

Excellent, this is the healthiest route. And I do like Kasich, but am not surprised to see the heat coming from the left (prochoice) and right (fiscal conservative; National Review mindset). He is in many ways the best qualified. And at some point we have to get it in our heads that we just can’t have everything we want. If we can get Trump to get behind Cruz/Kasich/(Rubio?) we win the election. Short of that, no. Any other route, we divide and lose.

 

[dixieagle]

Excellent, this is the healthiest route. And I do like Kasich, but am not surprised to see the heat coming from the left (prochoice) and right (fiscal conservative; National Review mindset). He is in many ways the best qualified. And at some point we have to get it in our heads that we just can’t have everything we want. If we can get Trump to get behind Cruz/Kasich/(Rubio?) we win the election. Short of that, no. Any other route, we divide and lose.

Excellent analysis. Trump can’t win a national election; Cruz would be highly unlikely; Kasich or Rubio would have a much better shot.

The national electorate is much different from the Republican primary electorate.

 

[FollowChrist34]

Excellent analysis. Trump can’t win a national election; Cruz would be highly unlikely; Kasich or Rubio would have a much better shot.

The national electorate is much different from the Republican primary electorate.

Yes, but the problem is with Kasich or Rubio at the top, we lose the Cruz/Trump folks. I agree Cruz will chase away moderates on both sides of the aisle, and harden the red/blue state lines, probably lose the election as a result. Our only hope would be a ‘new softer, open Cruz’ with Kasich or Rubio on board, one as VP, the other on the campaign trail, Secretary of State, etc. Cruz has to DROP something big from his platform: deportation, the wall, etc. (remember how Bill Clinton essentially gave over the welfare state - really gutted the old guard of the Dems; recreated the party and won) The more I think about this the less hope I have… oh well.

And back on Trump: If there are actually any real eggheads left in the “GOP establishment” this is what they are saying, effectively, to Trump; back out and pull your people back in for the good of the party, country, yourself. Don’t hold your breath on that. (and of course there is a chance there is too much Trump induced damage to the brand already for anything to work…)

 

[signit]

Yes, but the problem is with Kasich or Rubio at the top, we lose the Cruz/Trump folks. I agree Cruz will chase away moderates on both sides of the aisle, and harden the red/blue state lines, probably lose the election as a result.

I’d still say Kasich would lose the fewest voters overall, though.

It’s been shown by numerous head-to-head polls; Kasich has the biggest winning margin against Clinton.

In a poll out today, Kasich would beat Clinton; Cruz is within the margin of error. (Trump would lose):

inquisitr.com/2905900/polls-hillary-clinton-loses-to-every-gop-candidate-except-one/

 

[FollowChrist34]

I’d still say Kasich would lose the fewest voters overall, though.

It’s been shown by numerous head-to-head polls; Kasich has the biggest winning margin against Clinton.

In a poll out today, Kasich would beat Clinton; Cruz is within the margin of error. (Trump would lose):

inquisitr.com/2905900/polls-hillary-clinton-loses-to-every-gop-candidate-except-one/

I agree that Kasich is the best candidate. The only problem with this thinking is that you are discounting the ‘revolution’ unfolding before our eyes in the form of Cruz and Trump. It is time for the moderates to wave the white flag and let a conservative (Cruz; not Trump) take the reins. That was the great thing about Rubio; he was a conservative who was personable, but the base saw him (wrongly) as a “Gang of Eight” moderate (nevermind 50% of the GOP agrees with Rubio on immigration, including now Trump).

In an ideal world, we put up Cruz who pulls his and Trump’s vote, but shows that he can talk to the moderate wing (without which the GOP cannot go anywhere). This is the revenge election for the conservative wing; once they run and lose the moderates say, well ok, we told you so. It is payback for Romney and McCain. Again, if Cruz is smart enough to play this and reach out to moderates, we are good. But of course you and I both know, pigs will be flying at that point in time as well.

 

[Cathoholic]

randomuser

Kasich already yanked taxpayer funds from PP – and has never praised PP as “wonderful” (except for abortion) – so, if going by criteria of signed legislation: yes, more pro-life than Cruz.

I disagree with your conclusion. Kasich isn’t even wholly Pro-Life.

See this and draw your own conclusions if you think Kasich is Pro-Life.

People who WILL the death of other innocent living humans or like Kasich, tacitly APPROVE of such, cannot be classified as “Pro-Life” to me.

Since you brought up Senator Cruz, his Pro-Life credentials are impeccable.

See an example of that for yourself here:

youtube.com/watch?v=dr_yshI9D7A

Cruz also actually DOES what he says he will do.

With Kasich, you just never seem to know what will hop out of the jack-in-the-box of his thinking.

 

[dixieagle]

I agree that Kasich is the best candidate. The only problem with this thinking is that you are discounting the ‘revolution’ unfolding before our eyes in the form of Cruz and Trump. It is time for the moderates to wave the white flag and let a conservative (Cruz; not Trump) take the reins. That was the great thing about Rubio; he was a conservative who was personable, but the base saw him (wrongly) as a “Gang of Eight” moderate (nevermind 50% of the GOP agrees with Rubio on immigration, including now Trump).

In an ideal world, we put up Cruz who pulls his and Trump’s vote, but shows that he can talk to the moderate wing (without which the GOP cannot go anywhere). This is the revenge election for the conservative wing; once they run and lose the moderates say, well ok, we told you so. It is payback for Romney and McCain. Again, if Cruz is smart enough to play this and reach out to moderates, we are good. But of course you and I both know, pigs will be flying at that point in time as well.

Sadly, unless you’re as aggressive as Attila the Hun, you’re considered too “moderate”. Crazy.

 

[SuperLuigi]

Sadly, unless you’re as aggressive as Attila the Hun, you’re considered too “moderate”. Crazy.

Kasich’s clear lack of aggressiveness isn’t the central problem me, but it would be a problem against the Clinton machine.

The larger and more immediate problem is he said “to follow the law” on religious liberty. What if the abolitionist movement or the women’s suffrage movement had done that?

The frontrunner goes overboard with things like attacking Megyn Kelly on twitter, but Kasich goes overboard on some of these issues like religious liberty.

And what does that say in the context of a Supreme Court Justice? That he’ll appoint someone who will make Little Sisters of the Poor pay for contraception for promiscuous college students