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Path_Finder
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I believe Mr. Trump has his own thread where one can make these kinds of unkind remarks.
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does George Soros really want to see abortion stopped?!
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randomuser
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STOPPING ABORTION > NO TAXPAYER FUNDS TO PP
No, Soros doesn’t really to see abortion stopped. However, if ____'s pro-life mantra is simply limited to taxpayer funds, I fail to see how that would help make abortion illegal again. Is it no longer good to want abortions to be stopped entirely, or should we happy with the “no taxpayer funds” shell game?
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Path_Finder
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Has not Cruz actually defended Texas’ pro-life laws before the Supreme Court?
lifenews.com/2016/03/01/the-10-times-ted-cruz-voted-to-stop-abortion-and-defund-planned-parenthood/
Sure, Kasich may have signed bills de-funding planned parenthood but I don’t know if that opportunity would have risen if the legislature did not pass such bills to begin with.
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Peter_J
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Okay, I’m not going to lie to you: I’m glad you’re not a moderator. I honestly can’t believe that you have a problem with my posting this
I feel like I just wandered into a Boycott Megyn Kelly chatroom.
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Robert_Bay
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Lily_Bernans
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I doubt that George Soros really cares. Just my opinion, though.
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FollowChrist34
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Agreed. The real outsider is the RNC, or “GOP establishment.” I have begun to question their existence in any meaningful sense. The fact that the GOP has gotten to this point, that it cannot coalesce to stop such a lethal candidate as Trump, who is so opposed to basic conservative principles and ideology, says it all. A brain and power drain - that is the GOP after 8 years of Obama. They don’t have the national numbers or internal cohesion (moderate v. conservative v. Tea Party wings) to meaningfully oppose his policies, which have been disastrous for the country - Supreme Court decisions, immigration and foreign policy being the big ones. Leftist ideology and political correctness have been culturally institutionalized in the last 8 years in ways we could have never anticipated, although this trajectory has been in place since the 60s. With Obama, the very far left REALLY came into power. The Trumpers are terrified and furious at this; so am I. But they are aligning themselves in anger (the irrational now rules, scatters - where have we heard about that?) behind a worldly false prophet, straight into the hands of the current power structure and electing Clinton. (I do more and more blame conservative talk shows, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity for all this craziness and misinformation about Trump; they feed off and manipulate the uneducated and vulnerable, fuel their frustration in destructive ways)I think Kasich, Romney, and the rest of the establishment, are all outsiders looking in at this point.
P.S. And I would include even the RNC in that.
Again, there is not enough cohesion behind anyone, Cruz, Kasich, etc. to stop this. I actually hope that a sort of grace intervenes - Trump withdraws his candidacy before or at the convention and gives his delegates and support to Cruz. Cruz runs Kasich or Rubio as his VP. The only person who can stop this now is Trump. And I am tired of people saying that Trumpers are incapable of understanding the extent of their misjudgment and mistake. That is like telling a Christian to give up on sinners. Witness is a waste of time. Our Christian duty is to fight this to the bitter end.
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, I don’t see Cruz getting to 1237 - he is 20 points down in Arizona - should take Utah though. Kasich is not doing any harm. We will go to an open convention - what will be will be. I don’t like the militant proCruz antiKasich thing that is taking hold in conservative-land these days. Cruz is not our savior here; he doesn’t have what it takes; he will likely lose to Hillary due to his own high negatives (he reminds me a little of Nixon if you can believe it), GOP party weakness and divisions, Trumpers walking. Don’t alienate Kasich supporters. I can’t help but see all this backbiting and GOP aggression and hate as kind of a divine punishment…for what who knows…Trump being the culmination of it, the final chapter. You get what you deserve.
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Just heard a fascinating interview with a Princeton data/neuroscientist whose research shows that Kasich would have a decent chance of stopping Trump by selectively withdrawing from certain states and employing game theory. Will have to look more closely at this.
election.princeton.edu/2016/03/19/mitt-romney-game-theory-expert/#more-14692
election.princeton.edu/2016/03/19/mitt-romney-game-theory-expert/#more-14692
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Tomdstone
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What they are talking about here is unfairly gaming the system. IMHO, the nominee should be the one who most reflects what the people want, not what is determined by an unfair game.
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Little_Sheep
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I apologize if this has been discussed as I have not run through this entire thread yet, but I just saw that Kasich supports Obama’s recent Supreme Court nomination: cbsnews.com/news/john-kasich-id-consider-nominating-merrick-garland-supreme-court-election-2016/
Maybe supports is the wrong word, but he certainly seems to say that this is the type of Justice he would nominate. Interesting stance, I think.
Maybe supports is the wrong word, but he certainly seems to say that this is the type of Justice he would nominate. Interesting stance, I think.
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Peter_J
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“I will not take the low road to the highest office in the land.” - Gov. John Kasich
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Exactly. And the longer it takes them to realize it, the worse it will be for them.
I don’t go quite that far, but I can’t deny that it’s staggering to consider that they are now just “one-third” of the GOP, alongside the Tea Party wing and the Trump wing. (Of course, we might need to stop calling them “wings”, since they are now less outsiders than the moderates are.)
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dixieagle
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It doesn’t prevent folks from voting for anyone they want, or disenfranchise anyone.
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dixieagle
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I think that “crazy like a fox” is an operative term here.
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Peter_J
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Well that’s true – and my previous response may have been a bit too glib.
However, without getting into a big debate about whether it is “low road”, I would say that you just have to watch this video of Kasich himself – I think it renders our approval or disapproval of such a stratagem irrelevant.
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dixieagle
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He was talking about insults and crude talk. And he hasn’t done that.
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Peter_J
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Alright, but watch the interview in my other post.
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Cathoholic
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I still do not see John Kasich as a reasonable candidate.
John Kasich often touts himself as the “adult in the room” implying others in the room are children.
John Kasich brags about how he is a “unifier”. Yet Kasich helps fracture a party with a contentious Republican Primary season after he is already mathematically eliminated from first-ballot Presidential possibilities.
John Kasich brands himself as “Pro-Life” yet a video has emerged about his abortion “exceptions” when he thinks it is legally acceptable when the willing of an innocent human being to be killed is OK.
John Kasich seemingly asserts his support of pre-emptive strikes in North Korea, and then implies that perhaps Japan should make the pre-emptive strike on North Korea decision but he will have the U.S. military abide by the decisions of Japan.
KASICH: And frankly, I think we could have – I think we could have let the Japanese know that if you want to take action on that – on that missile that’s rising, you want to take action – you will have our support, if that’s what you think is the best thing to do.
We all heard John Kasich complain incessantly on the campaign trail about how if the media would just cover him, he could get his “message out to the people” and America would support him.
Kasich has also complained at debates about NOT getting enough question-time concerning him (Kasich).
But then several days ago when Fox News was structuring its Utah Debate format, and Donald Trump decided he did not want to face Senator Cruz on the debate stage, you would think this would be a perfect opportunity for John Kasich to get his “message” out to America!
After all, Kasich would be one on one with Senator Cruz on the debate stage for at least two hours! Nationally televised too.
So what does Kasich do? Does he relish in the opportunity to “get his message out”?
No! Kasich runs from the debate. Kasich almost immediately backs out after Trump ducked the debate.
From The Week . . .
A one-man debate? Kasich backs out of GOP debate after Trump does
March 16, 2016
. . . . Ohio Gov. John Kasich’s camp announced that if Trump wouldn’t be attending, neither would Kasich.
Kasich consultant John Weaver tweeted Wednesday that only if “Trump changes his mind” would Kasich show up: . . .
According to The Hill . . .
. . . . “Ted Cruz has expressed a willingness to debate Trump or Kasich – or both. But obviously, there needs to be more than one participant,” Fox executive vice president Michael Clemente said in a statement. . . . .
Naturally, the Utah Debate was subsequently canceled.
As of March 10th, Kasich couldn’t even get enough signatures to get his name on the Republican Primary ballot in Pennsylvania!
John Kasich Fails To Gain Signatures For Ballot Access To Pennsylvania and Parts of Illinois…
Posted on March 10, 2016 by sundance
From the outset the broadcast media have intentionally not mentioned the weak technical campaign strategy of Ohio Governor John Kasich. The foundational reason for the lack of ground-work was simply that Kasich was never supposed to be a national . . . .
(If more details desired, see here)
When someone’s Kasich-candidate is losing state after state and is now distantly mathematically eliminated from 1st ballot contention as Kasich is, it is hard to ask your hard-working supporters to part with their equally hard-earned cash for the Kasich campaign.
You have to wonder HOW Kasich financially can stay in the race?
HOW can Kasich obtain money?
Where could ANY monetary support be coming from?
Yet days ago we found out that the Kasich campaign is being heavily funded by liberal Pro-abortion activists including Democrat financial backer George Soros!
Religious persecution, especially against Christians is on the rise in this country.
I recently saw the Obama nominee for the Supreme Court appointment (Merrick Garland) handed down a ruling against Priests For Life in a case involving Religious Liberty in a district court. (Below from LifeSiteNews)
John Kasich often touts himself as the “adult in the room” implying others in the room are children.
John Kasich brags about how he is a “unifier”. Yet Kasich helps fracture a party with a contentious Republican Primary season after he is already mathematically eliminated from first-ballot Presidential possibilities.
John Kasich brands himself as “Pro-Life” yet a video has emerged about his abortion “exceptions” when he thinks it is legally acceptable when the willing of an innocent human being to be killed is OK.
John Kasich seemingly asserts his support of pre-emptive strikes in North Korea, and then implies that perhaps Japan should make the pre-emptive strike on North Korea decision but he will have the U.S. military abide by the decisions of Japan.
KASICH: And frankly, I think we could have – I think we could have let the Japanese know that if you want to take action on that – on that missile that’s rising, you want to take action – you will have our support, if that’s what you think is the best thing to do.
We all heard John Kasich complain incessantly on the campaign trail about how if the media would just cover him, he could get his “message out to the people” and America would support him.
Kasich has also complained at debates about NOT getting enough question-time concerning him (Kasich).
But then several days ago when Fox News was structuring its Utah Debate format, and Donald Trump decided he did not want to face Senator Cruz on the debate stage, you would think this would be a perfect opportunity for John Kasich to get his “message” out to America!
After all, Kasich would be one on one with Senator Cruz on the debate stage for at least two hours! Nationally televised too.
So what does Kasich do? Does he relish in the opportunity to “get his message out”?
No! Kasich runs from the debate. Kasich almost immediately backs out after Trump ducked the debate.
From The Week . . .
A one-man debate? Kasich backs out of GOP debate after Trump does
March 16, 2016
. . . . Ohio Gov. John Kasich’s camp announced that if Trump wouldn’t be attending, neither would Kasich.
Kasich consultant John Weaver tweeted Wednesday that only if “Trump changes his mind” would Kasich show up: . . .
According to The Hill . . .
. . . . “Ted Cruz has expressed a willingness to debate Trump or Kasich – or both. But obviously, there needs to be more than one participant,” Fox executive vice president Michael Clemente said in a statement. . . . .
Naturally, the Utah Debate was subsequently canceled.
As of March 10th, Kasich couldn’t even get enough signatures to get his name on the Republican Primary ballot in Pennsylvania!
John Kasich Fails To Gain Signatures For Ballot Access To Pennsylvania and Parts of Illinois…
Posted on March 10, 2016 by sundance
From the outset the broadcast media have intentionally not mentioned the weak technical campaign strategy of Ohio Governor John Kasich. The foundational reason for the lack of ground-work was simply that Kasich was never supposed to be a national . . . .
(If more details desired, see here)
When someone’s Kasich-candidate is losing state after state and is now distantly mathematically eliminated from 1st ballot contention as Kasich is, it is hard to ask your hard-working supporters to part with their equally hard-earned cash for the Kasich campaign.
You have to wonder HOW Kasich financially can stay in the race?
HOW can Kasich obtain money?
Where could ANY monetary support be coming from?
Yet days ago we found out that the Kasich campaign is being heavily funded by liberal Pro-abortion activists including Democrat financial backer George Soros!
Religious persecution, especially against Christians is on the rise in this country.
I recently saw the Obama nominee for the Supreme Court appointment (Merrick Garland) handed down a ruling against Priests For Life in a case involving Religious Liberty in a district court. (Below from LifeSiteNews)
Continued . . . .
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The Republican Party is attempting to stay unified and deny an Obama appointee to the Supreme Court.
Undermining these attempts of Republican Party unity, unfortunately yesterday John Kasich came out publicly and stated he would CONSIDER Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court if he were President!
CBS news reported it this way . . .
And Kasich is supposed to “defend” religious liberty
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Nobody is calling for civil unrest concerning the recent Supreme Court ruling RE-DEFINING marriage.
But there ARE licit approaches to overturning this ruling, approaches Kasich apparently will not consider.
Recall Kasich is the guy who was bragging in the Iowa debate about having attended a same-sex marriage and also said “we’ll accept it” (here).
What about our military personnel being disarmed by Government “gun-free zones” in Tennessee and being killed without being able to defend themselves by Mohammad Youssuf Abdulazeez?
What about this senior citizen who was ABLE to defend his life against several home intruders converging on him and his Miami home (here)?
Hasn’t Kasich taken any of THESE people in consideration before saying he (Kasich) would consider appointing Garland to the Supreme Court?
In the 2012 election, conservative Rick Santorum needed Kasich’s help to win Ohio primary delegates over liberal Mitt Romney. Recall Santorum ran a very strong campaign winning 11 states.
Kasich refused to help Santorum not endorsing the conservative (nor endorsing Romney).
Romney’s big-donor influence helped deliver a narrow margin over Santorum in Ohio while Kasich sat on the sidelines. Santorum who ran out of money, dropped out shortly after that.
More on the next post
Undermining these attempts of Republican Party unity, unfortunately yesterday John Kasich came out publicly and stated he would CONSIDER Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court if he were President!
CBS news reported it this way . . .
So not only does this injure Republican unity (so much for being a “unifier”) on opposing the Garland appointment, but we ALSO find out THIS is the kind of judge, Kasich thinks is reasonable for CONSIDERATION to the Supreme Court! Absolutely unreal!
And Kasich is supposed to “defend” religious liberty
??Nobody is calling for civil unrest concerning the recent Supreme Court ruling RE-DEFINING marriage.
But there ARE licit approaches to overturning this ruling, approaches Kasich apparently will not consider.
Recall Kasich is the guy who was bragging in the Iowa debate about having attended a same-sex marriage and also said “we’ll accept it” (here).
Yet when Kasich was in Congress and voted to impose the Clinton Gun Ban in 1994 (called the “Assault” Weapons Ban), Kasich didn’t say to his fellow Congressmen . . .
Kasich later suggested Traditional Marriage supporters were guilty of “discrimination”, with Kasich saying about same-sex “marriage” (here) . . .
Gunowners.org has this to say about Obama’s nominee, Merrick Garland . . . .
What about moms who have been threatened by their “ex” who have ignored “restraining orders”?
What about our military personnel being disarmed by Government “gun-free zones” in Tennessee and being killed without being able to defend themselves by Mohammad Youssuf Abdulazeez?
What about this senior citizen who was ABLE to defend his life against several home intruders converging on him and his Miami home (here)?
Hasn’t Kasich taken any of THESE people in consideration before saying he (Kasich) would consider appointing Garland to the Supreme Court?
In the 2012 election, conservative Rick Santorum needed Kasich’s help to win Ohio primary delegates over liberal Mitt Romney. Recall Santorum ran a very strong campaign winning 11 states.
Kasich refused to help Santorum not endorsing the conservative (nor endorsing Romney).
Romney’s big-donor influence helped deliver a narrow margin over Santorum in Ohio while Kasich sat on the sidelines. Santorum who ran out of money, dropped out shortly after that.
More on the next post
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