Key Iran General Soleimani killed in Iraq: reports - BBC

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I think they are saying Israel received notice BUT… I would be for our allies, US allies, France and the UK to be notified ahead of time. We need (name removed by moderator)ut, feedback, conversation. France is pretty tough on terrorism with a number of troops in Africa fighting terrorism.
 
Iran would like nothing better than to be able to take over Iraq.
 
Ender said:
Does it make any difference here that Soleimani, whatever position he held, was an international terrorist?
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Not quite international… Some nations were opposed to him and some not.
 
7_Sorrows said:
Iran would like nothing better than to be able to take over Iraq.
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Recalls the not that long ago 8 year war between them.
Both nations … Funded by all other nations…
The BOP (Balance of Power) was maintained.

I’m thinking that they’re closer together Today…

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7_Sorrows:
Iran would like nothing better than to be able to take over Iraq.
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Recalls the not that long ago 8 year war between them.
Both nations … Funded by all other nations…
The BOP (Balance of Power) was maintained.

I’m thinking that they’re closer together Today…

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There could be some Iraqis who are pro-Iran and others who are anti-Iran.
 
7_Sorrows said:
There could be some Iraqis who are pro-Iran and others who are anti-Iran.
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No doubt… And to what degree … I’m not sure -

However … they’ve moved closer together at the national level…

Check out -

Iran–Iraq_relations

at wiki
 
Blah, blah, blah “martyr.” Riiiight. Put a sock in it, skippy.
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JapaneseKappa said:
Foreign policy is not undertaken to “give people what they deserve,” it is undertaken to advance US interests. It has been the opinion of several analysts, more sober minded than the president, that assassinating this leader would not be in the US’ interests.
Indeed, as with many decisions this president makes, it looks to be much more in Russia’s interests.
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And you have nothing to say about gassing innocent children? How lovely to bring all of this discussion with such a position, American soldiers died, 600 plus and coalition soliders as well, are said to have been killed from IEDs, yet, all we are talking about is getting at Trump and talking about Putin. Truly nauseating. Keep it classy.

A lot too, has been made of the Iranian nuclear deal as well and how it gave billions to Iran of which they may have well used it to fund terrorism. So, if one is playing some blame game and making accusations, don’t forget that. Don’t forget that we might not be dealing with this situation to begin with. Don’t forget, this was talked about on the campaign trail and don’t forget, it is said, Soleimani was accused of planning to kill Americans. Does that actually bother anyone?


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How Obama's Iran Deal Funded Terrorism

In 2015, the Iranian Khomeinist regime received up to $150 billion into its bank accounts from the Obama administration. That windfall of cash was provided through terms of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), the Iran Nuclear Deal. T...
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‘The US had to respond’: Trump pulled trigger on Soleimani, months after canceling planned strike - Washington Examiner

President Trump’s decision to kill Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani came just months after he canceled a strike that would have punished the downing of an American drone. “We might have entered the phase where they pushed to the point the U.S. had to respond,” a senior Western diplomat stationed in...
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It’s utterly nauseating that one does not mention the alleged thousands killed by Soleimani but brings in the cheap Russian hoax parlor game again.


And even Bill Clinton acknowledges, he might have been able to catch bin Laden:

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Bill Clinton, Hours Before 9/11 Attacks: 'I Could Have Killed' Osama bin Laden

Hours before the 9/11 terrorist attacks, former U.S. President Bill Clinton told an audience in Australia about his missed chance to kill attack mastermind Osama bin Laden, according to audio released this week.
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The VP outlined some of Soleimani’s atrocities.
  • Organized the attempted assassination of the Saudi ambassador to the United States in Washington, DC in 2011, overseeing a terrorist attack attempt on American soil.
  • Provided advanced deadly explosively formed projectiles, advanced weaponry, training, and guidance to Iraqi insurgents used to conduct attacks on U.S. and coalition forces; directly responsible for the death of 603 U.S. service members, along with thousands of wounded.
  • Directed the sophisticated January 20, 2007, attack on the Provincial Joint Coordination Center in Karbala, Iraq, in which five captured U.S. soldiers were executed
  • In Afghanistan, Soleimani oversaw the IRGC’s financial, logistical, and military support to the Taliban and sponsors attacks on Coalition forces.
  • Provided missiles and other advanced weapons to terrorists throughout the Middle East, including Lebanese Hizballah, Kata’ib Hizballah, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, HAMAS, and the Taliban, who use these weapons to target and kill innocents.
  • Directed IRGC QF terrorist plots to bomb innocent civilians in Turkey and Kenya in 2011.
  • Continued support to the murderous regime in Syria, aiding and abetting Assad’s brutal abuses against the Syrian people.
  • Played a direct role in financing, equipping, and training Lebanese Hizballah forces conducting terrorist attacks on Israeli civilians during Hizballah’s 2006 campaign.
  • In Yemen, the Qods Force, under Soleimani’s leadership, has orchestrated and enabled the launch of missiles that have resulted in the deaths of dozens of people in the region. Targets have included civilian airports in Saudi Arabia.
  • Assisted in the clandestine travel to Afghanistan of 10 of the terrorists who carried out the September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States.
 
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Victoria33 said:
And you have nothing to say about gassing innocent children?
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I can’t find anything on this. Could you provide a link?
Victoria33 said:
American soldiers died, 600 plus and coalition soliders as well, are said to have been killed from IEDs
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The Catholic Church does not support the death penalty, or this sort of terrorist act. The US is responsible for terrorist acts carried out by drones all over the ME, and if the head of our military were to be murdered in this way, it would also be wrong.
Victoria33 said:
A lot too, has been made of the Iranian nuclear deal as well and how it gave billions to Iran of which they may have well used it to fund terrorism.
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The nuclear deal was a great deal, though it was opposed by Israel, whose administration appears not to believe in diplomacy. The “billions” (I think it was millions) were money that was Iran’s that was returned to them.

What Iran does that is labeled “terrorism” are simply acts of war that we and Israel also engage in.
Victoria33 said:
don’t forget, it is said, Soleimani was accused of planning to kill Americans.
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There is no doubt in my mind that the US and Israel have plenty of plans to kill Iranians. In fact, if the Iranians had found out about US plans to kill Soleimani, then by that logic they could have been justified to kill Americans who planned to kill him.

Preemptive war is never, ever ethical. It is murder, aggression.
Victoria33 said:
one does not mention the alleged thousands killed by Soleimani but brings in the cheap Russian hoax parlor game again.
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Yeah, I don’t think this has anything to do with Russia. But please remember that there are people in the US responsible for the killing of many Iranians and Iraqis.

Now Trump is responsible for many killings, when his administration could have instead first tried diplomacy. He was very foolish in doing this.

We must pray together for diplomatic resolution. This is very, very serious.
 
OneSheep said:
What Iran does that is labeled “terrorism” are simply acts of war that we and Israel also engage in.
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In that case they should think twice before going to war with us. Perhaps now they will. Soleimani got away with planning the attack on the embassy in Benghazi; that worked out extremely well for him. This time, not so much. His mistake was thinking Trump would behave like Obama.
 
OneSheep said:
I can’t find anything on this. Could you provide a link?
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His foes called him this nickname. That’s fairly common:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1212919281416949760

" Gassem Soleimani "3. Dünya Savaşı Çıkacak Mı ? (Kasım Süleymani Kimdir ? ) ABD-İran Gerilimi​


I think this is in the Turkish language.

Then, Douma, alll of those places reportedly, gassed.
OneSheep said:
The nuclear deal was a great deal, though it was opposed by Israel, whose administration appears not to believe in diplomacy. The “billions” (I think it was millions) were money that was Iran’s that was returned to them.

What Iran does that is labeled “terrorism” are simply acts of war that we and Israel also engage in.
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So, it’s fine if Iran finances terrorism and wars and neglects it’s own home population where about 80% I saw live in poverty? Sorry, they used that money to finance, help out Syria and btw, I take it that what you say is true, it being their own money… but it’s a lot of money. I don’t know if that pertains to all of that money. If it was real important to me, I’d research it. I’m not calling into question what you said but I myself, would personally read up on it more. So, I have to consider this somewhat unsubstantiated. We have been through this before.
OneSheep said:
There is no doubt in my mind that the US and Israel have plenty of plans to kill Iranians. In fact, if the Iranians had found out about US plans to kill Soleimani, then by that logic they could have been justified to kill Americans who planned to kill him.

Preemptive war is never, ever ethical. It is murder, aggression.
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This really is a bit off topic. We invaded Iraq, we did not invade Iran. Who told them to go there?
OneSheep said:
Yeah, I don’t think this has anything to do with Russia. But please remember that there are people in the US responsible for the killing of many Iranians and Iraqis.

Now Trump is responsible for many killings, when his administration could have instead first tried diplomacy. He was very foolish in doing this.

We must pray together for diplomatic resolution. This is very, very serious.
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Go ahead and think that way, Soleimani is already credited with killing many thousands, not just Americans if you are somehow implying the US had it coming but Syrians, Iraqis, Kurds and so on.

forward.com

Opinion | Calm Down: Killing Qassem Soleimani Made Us Safer

Soleimani’s assassination signals that the US under Donald Trump, can no longer be counted on to play the role it has for decades
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There are dozens of editorials stating this and Soleimani is partly responsible too, for the huge displacement of Syrians, millions of them. Refugees.
 
dvdjs said:
While the US Stater Department is telliing Amercina to flee the region by any means possible as quickly as possible.
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That’s right. The State Department has urged Americans to leave the area. This happened as many as 5 days ago with the initial protests in Baghdad. I"m not sure how though, excerpting one thing I wrote and then, saying this information really ties in though. But it’s fine. Oil company personnel have been told to leave.
 
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