Kim-Trump Summit

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Democrats will never give Trump credit for anything, no matter what.
 
SouthCatholic1 said:
But… Obama got all of that with the Iran deal and Trump backed out of that! Just acknowledge the hypocrisy and I’ll be happy!
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??? Our sanctions with NK are still in force, we’ve given the Rocket Man nothing yet.
Obama would have given away his leverage by now, and sent a plane load of cash 🙂
 
I’m sure they would give him credit here if there was actually something done to be given credit for. The document signed at the North Korea summit was nothing new and unprecedented.
 
That’s old news. The newer news (last night) is that Kim is dismantling a rocketry site. Different.
anikins said:
I’m sure they would give him credit here if there was actually something done to be given credit for. The document signed at the North Korea summit was nothing new and unprecedented.
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I think you know as well as I do that the left will never give Trump credit for anything or fail to put everything he says or does in a negative light.

I think we all know that if NoKo really does de-nuke, the Dem response will be just like your post: “Oh, they could start it up again, so nothing accomplished.”
 
I think North Korea, the same as Cuba, is communist because of the US. Both countries had leaders who were socialists. But where they ended up in their struggles was due in part to the hard line the US took.

Years of sanctions have made them poor. Had trade been allowed then the glory of capitalism would have ended the communist regime as it has elsewhere.

These countries naturally wanted to have a defense against US threats. Continuing to display our obvious dominance isn’t going to achieve peace at all. What Trump is doing might well finally end the problem of North Korea. This isn’t in the interest of the military industrial complex so plenty of internal opposition is to be expected.
 
They had years of trade with a great number of communist and socialist countries. If the trade didn’t amount to much, it’s because they all shared similar economic systems.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Kim is dismantling a rocketry site
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Is he, or is he promising to? Promising to.

Like all the times before.

The article states the primary concern. Nothing concrete has been done in terms of moving North Korea forward on denuclearization. If Trump was able to accomplish that it would be a victory for the whole world, but he hasn’t.
 
Of course communism/socialism is an awful economic system that makes you poor. China is growing in as much as it abandons communism. North Korea has been very isolated since the beginning because the US decided it would be a communist country it fought.
 
anikins said:
The article states the primary concern. Nothing concrete has been done in terms of moving North Korea forward on denuclearization. If Trump was able to accomplish that it would be a victory for the whole world, but he hasn’t.
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How hilarious, and how typical! Democrats criticize Trump for not accomplishing de-nuclearization of NoKo in less than 24 hours!
 
Is NK even nominally Communist anymore? It looks more like an absolute monarchy. Even the Cubans have finally abandoned the Castros, at least for the most part, but it’s pretty clear what Kim Jong Un is fishing for is perpetual recognition for his and his heirs’ rule.
 
Interesting question. The older I get, the more I think Communism was never anything other than a struggle among ruthless men for power and resources. They could call it “communism” or they could call it “fascism” or they could call it all kinds of things. But ultimately, it’s always the same.
 
I really think some, maybe most, Trump haters would prefer a war on the Korean Peninsula than a peace treaty Trump can take credit for. It’s that bad.
 
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I must have missed something. Is there a peace treaty on the table?
 
having a vision has helped make him the man he is today.
maybe he wants others to have visiins of doing something good with the resources they have than destroying them. is that a
problem?
 
Ridgerunner said:
How hilarious, and how typical! Democrats criticize Trump for not accomplishing de-nuclearization of NoKo in less than 24 hours!
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Best to just ignore the kiddies these days. Let 'em fill their nappies on their own, and then wallow in their own stink when no-one’s interested in helping them out anymore.
 
Communism was always just the rule of the strong man. Its genius was to incorporate the democratic element. With that you can get away with almost anything. The same is true in any democracy.
 
A peace treaty is a pretty specific thing. So it’s not semantics at all.
 
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