If you are talking about negligence, it would be pretty difficult to prove/determine that it caused a miscarriage. But, seriously, this is the least of our worries right now. People are purposefully killing babies today. If you will help us make abortions completely illegal, we will then address the issue of negligence.
That was a gorgeous post seekdatruth … so open and unpretentious. **Thanks so much **
!This is outrageous. You have access to a computer. It would be a very good thing if you were to take the time to check the facts before submitting something like this online. There are many causes of spontaneous abortion. I suffered through two of them, and I was not on drugs or drinking and I had no medical conditions that would cause miscarriage. It is generally believed that a full fifty percent of pregnancies end as spontaneous abortions.
That was my point. If you’re making abortions illegal, you are taking the previously established women’s “reproductive rights” turning them into baby machines that no longer have “a right” to their bodies.
However, if you equate a zygote with an individual, as somebody here did; then even though not wantingly but YOU KILLED THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS by not giving yourself/them enough care. I’m pretty sure if you would have been under constant control & monitoring the chances of you having those two spont.ab. would have decreased a lot.
I agree with some of your argument, being a bit of a feminist, however, the “zygote” has potential to be a life, and Catholics consider that potential to be in God’s hands and His alone. I feel this way too. We must do our best to protect our children and ourselves from horrible instances of rape, but sometimes, despite our best efforts, things happen. In this case, if plan b only intercepts, as it is claimed, then it’s good if the Church accepts that. However, since it’s creation and employment are through modern science and have no apparent directive in Scripture, then in order for the Church to condone or forbid it, they must use scientific facts in their consideration.
“In the beginning I was mixed up because I was taught by the Hippocratic Oath not to take a life.”Funny!
The big controversy though is this question people have about when exactly life begins. Catholics believe that the life begins at conception, others think at birth. Until we can effectively convert everyone to Catholicism, or change the law of the land to outlaw all abortion, how can we reach them? Unfortunately, either of those options is unrealistic AT THIS TIME. (It’s probably not going to happen until the second coming, according to Scripture.) I was very anti-religion, and when I would read things put out by the Church, all I could see were holes, half-truths, and sometimes, just flat out lies. Why would I believe anything the Church said? By God’s grace, I read as much as I could on both sides, and came to the conclusion that life begins at conception and that ABC is wrong. It didn’t come because the Church just said so, or because I felt like any of their “scientific” evidence was accurate, but because I discovered the facts for myself and decided that even though the Church may not have the same reasoning as me, we both agree. It was difficult to come to this conclusion though, and I did so only because I wanted to. Most people don’t want to, so therefore they care less about hokey “scientific evidence” proliferated by a church to support secular changes in the law. I’m just saying if the Church wants to appeal to the secularized masses on issues like abortion and ABC, they should use the most scientific and irreproachably correct evidence available.
I’m sorry, do you have a point you would like to make to me personally with these quotes?
My ex-husband threatened to kill me if I didn’t have an abortion. As a result I had an abortion in July of 2001. Do you think it would be to late to take action against him for this?
I just now found this post. Sorry, don’t know how I missed it! Thank you. It was extremely difficult to read though. At no time in my life did I believe abortion was OK, but I did have a wrong perception of exactly what *defined *an abortion. I wrongly thought if it was still a mass of cells or didn’t look like a human baby, then it was OK. That’s where a lot of people are mislead and just wrong though, and that’s why I wanted to share my testimony here. I feel deep sympathy for that man, his guilt must be overwhelming, and no punishment imposed by other human beings can equate to what he must feel inside already. He knows his toughest judgment will be in front of God, as I know mine will be. Thank you for your supportive words.That was a gorgeous post seekdatruth … so open and unpretentious. **Thanks so much **
You know, you’re as much a victim as the others. And I don’t find the idea of you having to additionally bear the guilt continually too appealing… I’m sure you’ve been through enough already.
Perhaps I could offer a couple of ideas. BTW Confession will make a difference; it is a sacrament of “healing”… it always makes a difference.
Despite your guilty feelings,you still have a definite advantage due to your belief of the fetus having a soul. Sometimes guilt tries to twist us into believing God can’t forgive a certain thing (often because we are having trouble forgiving ourselves). Jesus said to Saint Faustina of The Divine Mercy:
“My mercy is so great that neither man nor angel could ever fathom it - even were they to contemplate it for all eternity.”
But what always seems to drive that message home for us is when we have a concrete example of a rather “notorious” type who received a generous measure of God’s Mercy…like St. Paul.
Please have a look at this testimony of the former leading abortionist in Belgrade. It’s fascinating and informative reading with a little of the mystical thrown in for good measure; and discover that after all he’d done…St. Thomas Aquinas calls him"good friend". …Indeed our Lord is, " rich in Mercy and abounding in steadfast love."
fmmh.ycdsb.ca/teachers/fmmh_mcmanaman/pages/abo.html
God Bless
That is an awful thing to say. I had a miscarriage and it happened possibly because I was older at the time of the pregnancy. It had nothing to do with me not caring for myself. My sister had two miscarriages, again when she was older, not because she was acting in a way to cause the miscarriage. Miscarriages are sad tragedies and women suffer and grieve for those children. It is definitely not the same as going to a clinic and asking a medical profesional to act to cause the loss of a baby. You view point is simply not true.
Thank You
I can say the exact opposite of your position, then go “Perhaps I can’t prove it…but no one can prove otherwise either”. & that get’s us nowhere.You’re supposed to?
