Ladies only survey: Do you wear makeup and if not why?

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You really make an excellent point with your post and I never thought of it that way, until I read your post. Then it reminded me of how when I was a teen, I’d look at mothers with lots of kids and felt sorry for them because they just seemed so harried, depressed and tired. They probably weren’t even like that in reality, but their outward appearance made it seem so. I never equated it with the mothers just not taking care of themselves. I thought their children made them that way and it made me think how depressing it must be. I now understand that isn’t always the case and that I think most of the parents who have a lot of kids lovingly choose and accept it. I now wonder if those mothers did take just a little time to groom themselves, if they would have produced a different reaction from my teenaged self and from other teenaged girls.
I can see the point in this as well, but… I wonder if it’s not what’s important. In order to look frazzled you have to be frazzled, and if we paint a picture that’s other than the truth we are lying with our appearance. If a worn-out mom appears “happy and perfect” with her makeup, who will stop to think, “Gee, maybe she needs some help; I’ll offer to do her laundry or babysit the kids this weekend”, or something like that.

To me, I can see it as how I first viewed the Church when I came to it in that all I ever saw on the outside was a Mary statue. I had to go inside to find Jesus. So I judged by the outside and was completely wrong, but was told “You just have to look harder and not judge.” Why would we not say that of the teens who would look at us and think, “Well, her life must suck!”? We should be holding them accountable, not ourselves. I think that’s a problem I have with makeup in general in that it creates this false image, and that goes against everything I am as a Catholic. Does that sound a little extreme? Maybe, but it’s food for thought. The world is insatiable when it comes to getting “reality”, but it’s just all fake anyway.

I don’t know if I’m explaining myself the way I want to…
 
when my oldest daughter (a very modest young woman) was seventeen, she mentioned that she wasn’t sure she wanted bunches of kids. why? because moms with so many kids look so worried and worn out.

she was talking about me.

since then, I’ve worn makeup almost every day for the last 5 years. if i go out, i wear make-up. i’m out of the house a lot. i’m 46.

when i look at pics of me in my 30’s i cringe. my hair was long and unkept, my clothes sloppy (i was thinking Bohemian, but they were really just sloppy) my face was blotchy, half pale, half red, and i had dark circles under my eyes. i showered every day, but i looked like i was dragged down the street by a tractor.

no wonder back then, with 5 or 6 or 7 kids in tow, people (including rude strangers) felt like they had permission to make suggestions about my lack of sleep/ family size/ eating habits/ etc. “Oh honey, when is it time for you…?” i didn’t know it, but perhaps i was a negative witness for Catholic marriage and openness to life. worse still, maybe i was becoming a negative witness to my own kids, especially daughters.

Saint Paul said, “when you are in Rome…”

well, i’m not in Rome, but here in un-Rome, well-groomed women:
keep their hair neat (I cut mine quite short)
wear decent clothes (now i buy the best i can find at salvation army, not the most funky bohemian styles)
groom their nails (i stopped biting mine and wear a clear gloss every day)
wear make-up if necessary (and it’s necessary for me if i don’t want to look exhausted and harried.)

folks seem to perceive me as happier/ better adjusted/ less harried/ now with ten kids than back when i had half as many. that good impression makes me a more positive witness for Catholic motherhood. smiling helps a lot, too.

what make-up do i wear? a lot. i start every day with a skin care routine-- cleanser and moisture. i wear a some concealer, a light foundation, mascara, blush, lip gloss and a cream colored shadow to lighten my old-looking eye lids.

i didn’t know how to put makeup on, so i learned from a Mary Kay consultant. when one of my sisters watched me put my make-up on, she was amazed that i wore so many products and they were so invisible. they simply make me look better, not made-up. (the mascara looks like make-up.)

coffee/ shower/ hair/ make-up and more coffee takes me 20- 25 minutes. i always have the company of several kids while i’m at it. i’m never alone.

i wear earrings every day too.

and many days i wear a natural scent called “Holy Water” which is misnamed. it is precisely the beautiful scent of a baptized baby.

my husband absolutely prefers this look.

“Wives should ask yourselves whether you are not forgetting a little about your appearance… Your duty is and always will be to take as good care of your appearance as you did before you were married and it is a duty of justice because you belong to your husband… husbands… have the obligation to show the same affection as a young man who has just fallen in love. It would be a bad sign if you smile ironically as you hear this; it would mean that your love has turned into cold indifference.” Jose Maria Escriva,*** Christ is Passing By***

as others have mentioned, it ***could ***be expensive. but for several years i’ve been selling MaryKay-- not a huge business, just enough to sell products to all my family and friends at a good discount, then i get my products for free. i place 4 big orders a year. my gal pals and sisters know when it’s time to order, know they’ll be saving 25% and they love that. and i get my stuff for free.
This is a lovely post. Thank you. I love Mary Kay products.

My mother, God rest her soul, wore makeup every day, even after she got arthritis and all of her joints, including her jaw joints, were twisted and deformed. She enjoyed having the ladies in the nursing home make her up and also do her hair. Even when she was at her sickest, my daughters said she was “cute.”

If my mom said it was OK to wear makeup it’s OK! End of discussion as far as I’m concerned!

I have such red skin (rosacea) that I have to wear foundation, or people stop me and ask, “Are you alright?” I literally look like Freddy Freeloader (red nosed, flushed skin, blotchy) without foundation. I don’t think red skin is what God gave me–I think that’s what the Fall of Adam and Eve gave me–bad skin. It’s a symptom of the fallen world we live in and the sinful condition of all mankind–flawed, red, blotchy skin. It’s not normal and it’s not pretty at all.

I remember back when I was younger–I had gotten out of the habit of wearing makeup. One day I applied makeup (foundation, eye makeup, lip color), and went to teach the children’s choir. One of the little boys said, “You look beautiful!”

Expensive? I disagree. If you divide the cost of foundation up over the number of days you apply it, it’s only a few pennies a day. Same for other makeups, except for mascara–that should be tossed after a month or so (bacterial buildup in the tube).

However, I do not wear perfume and I wish that all of YOU and the rest of the world wouldn’t wear perfume. I get such bad headaches and sometimes I throw up. I especially hate it when people wear perfume to church, the theater, a restaurant, the gym–well, anywhere, because I don’t like having headaches and throwing up. That doesn’t make me feel pretty. Perfume is FORBIDDEN in the hospital where I work, thank goodness. If I am near someone wearing perfume, I move away from them.

And I don’t dye my hair. (My daughters do–my older daughter dyed her hair lavender when she interviewed for her first theater job, and got the job!) My hair was blonde until I got older and started going gray. Right now it’s a gray-blonde, and I really like the color! Lots of people on my dad’s side were the same way.

I have no objection when other people dye their hair, although I really don’t like that “blue” color that some older people have. And I hate it when roots show!
 
when my oldest daughter (a very modest young woman) was seventeen, she mentioned that she wasn’t sure she wanted bunches of kids. why? because moms with so many kids look so worried and worn out.

she was talking about me.

since then, I’ve worn makeup almost every day for the last 5 years. if i go out, i wear make-up. i’m out of the house a lot. i’m 46.

when i look at pics of me in my 30’s i cringe. my hair was long and unkept, my clothes sloppy (i was thinking Bohemian, but they were really just sloppy) my face was blotchy, half pale, half red, and i had dark circles under my eyes. i showered every day, but i looked like i was dragged down the street by a tractor.

no wonder back then, with 5 or 6 or 7 kids in tow, people (including rude strangers) felt like they had permission to make suggestions about my lack of sleep/ family size/ eating habits/ etc. “Oh honey, when is it time for you…?” i didn’t know it, but perhaps i was a negative witness for Catholic marriage and openness to life. worse still, maybe i was becoming a negative witness to my own kids, especially daughters.

Saint Paul said, “when you are in Rome…”

well, i’m not in Rome, but here in un-Rome, well-groomed women:
keep their hair neat (I cut mine quite short)
wear decent clothes (now i buy the best i can find at salvation army, not the most funky bohemian styles)
groom their nails (i stopped biting mine and wear a clear gloss every day)
wear make-up if necessary (and it’s necessary for me if i don’t want to look exhausted and harried.)

folks seem to perceive me as happier/ better adjusted/ less harried/ now with ten kids than back when i had half as many. that good impression makes me a more positive witness for Catholic motherhood. smiling helps a lot, too.

what make-up do i wear? a lot. i start every day with a skin care routine-- cleanser and moisture. i wear a some concealer, a light foundation, mascara, blush, lip gloss and a cream colored shadow to lighten my old-looking eye lids.

i didn’t know how to put makeup on, so i learned from a Mary Kay consultant. when one of my sisters watched me put my make-up on, she was amazed that i wore so many products and they were so invisible. they simply make me look better, not made-up. (the mascara looks like make-up.)

coffee/ shower/ hair/ make-up and more coffee takes me 20- 25 minutes. i always have the company of several kids while i’m at it. i’m never alone.

i wear earrings every day too.

and many days i wear a natural scent called “Holy Water” which is misnamed. it is precisely the beautiful scent of a baptized baby.

my husband absolutely prefers this look.

“Wives should ask yourselves whether you are not forgetting a little about your appearance… Your duty is and always will be to take as good care of your appearance as you did before you were married and it is a duty of justice because you belong to your husband… husbands… have the obligation to show the same affection as a young man who has just fallen in love. It would be a bad sign if you smile ironically as you hear this; it would mean that your love has turned into cold indifference.” Jose Maria Escriva,*** Christ is Passing By***

as others have mentioned, it ***could ***be expensive. but for several years i’ve been selling MaryKay-- not a huge business, just enough to sell products to all my family and friends at a good discount, then i get my products for free. i place 4 big orders a year. my gal pals and sisters know when it’s time to order, know they’ll be saving 25% and they love that. and i get my stuff for free.
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I can see the point in this as well, but… I wonder if it’s not what’s important. In order to look frazzled you have to be frazzled, and if we paint a picture that’s other than the truth we are lying with our appearance. If a worn-out mom appears “happy and perfect” with her makeup, who will stop to think, “Gee, maybe she needs some help; I’ll offer to do her laundry or babysit the kids this weekend”, or something like that.

To me, I can see it as how I first viewed the Church when I came to it in that all I ever saw on the outside was a Mary statue. I had to go inside to find Jesus. So I judged by the outside and was completely wrong, but was told “You just have to look harder and not judge.” Why would we not say that of the teens who would look at us and think, “Well, her life must suck!”? We should be holding them accountable, not ourselves. I think that’s a problem I have with makeup in general in that it creates this false image, and that goes against everything I am as a Catholic. Does that sound a little extreme? Maybe, but it’s food for thought. The world is insatiable when it comes to getting “reality”, but it’s just all fake anyway.

I don’t know if I’m explaining myself the way I want to…
I can totally see and understand your point, as well. Anything done in excess or for the wrong reasons can be detrimental to a person soul and well-being.

Although, I don’t necessarily think using makeup in the right way creates a false image. Sometimes, just freshening yourself up can energize you to face the day. That sometimes means putting on a little blush or whatever. If a woman is truly frazzled (sometimes I look frazzled, but I’m really not - I’m just too lazy to brush my hair or groom myself) and she is trying to hide behind a mask, pretending she is happy, that is one thing and she probably needs some help either from her family or from a therapist. At the same time, if a woman is truly frazzled or depressed, she probably won’t have any time or wherewithal to care for herself. Many times, a woman touching herself up just a bit can help make her feel more under control, confident, happy and not a total mess. She is able to accomplish more. It can help her feel more her true self rather than some stranger stuck in the doldrums.

For some people, if they feel like a mess because of their outer appearance, they’ll act like mess and they have a hard time getting out of the rut no matter how much they try. But if they clean themselves up and take pride in what God gave them, they can do much more and be much more to their family, friends and to themselves. And you are right, perhaps by seeing a mother who looks like and is truly in some sort of trouble, it may be a huge help to her if you can assist in caring for her children or whatever. It might even give her a chance to actually take care of herself so that she can get herself back in gear and look less tired and frazzled.

I’m not saying we should get ourselves all dolled up like supermodels, but I think women of all kinds - whether they are mothers with lots of children, married women with no children or single women, are looked up to by those younger than them even if we don’t know it. I really don’t believe we should hold teens accountable for what they are thinking in this regard. It’s actually on us. They are looking for role models at this time in their lives. It’s such a confusing time for them already, why should we make it any harder for them? To me it’s the same way as how they would think of me if I dressed in a provocative and sexy way. Even if that wasn’t my intent, those girls who might actually look at me as a role model will either think I was a slut or think it’s totally ok to dress that way. The assumption made by those teens would be totally on me because I gave that impression with the kind of clothes AND makeup that I wore. I have worked with teen girls before when I taught music and I was always aware of my personal appearance so that I wouldn’t be giving the wrong impression and to also serve as a role model. These very young women need as much help and guidance as they can get in this world.

As a young woman myself, when I look at women I admire, they have everything together - from families (single or married women - and families meaning outer and immediate), to spiritual life, to profession, intellect, humility, confidence, compassion and their personal care, etc. All of these things are important for a balanced spiritual life, especially for a lay person, and to see a woman or a man live out all these things are inspiring for me as a woman and as a Christian.

Of course, I’m not saying we should encourage them or any woman to wear makeup or clothes in order to feel beautiful. First and foremost we should help them understand how beautiful they as people, in their souls and hearts.
 
My mother, God rest her soul, wore makeup every day, even after she got arthritis and all of her joints, including her jaw joints, were twisted and deformed. She enjoyed having the ladies in the nursing home make her up and also do her hair. Even when she was at her sickest, my daughters said she was “cute.”

If my mom said it was OK to wear makeup it’s OK! End of discussion as far as I’m concerned!
This is so sweet. You know, especially for older ladies, a little bit of makeup and a hairdo really does brighten their days. My husband’s grandmother is in a nursing home and she loves it when the candy stripers paint her nails or put a little lipstick on her.

A friend of my teacher’s recently passed away from cancer. She said when they saw her the first time, she looked totally emaciated and wasted away, as if she was a living corpse. When they saw her right before she died, the friend had someone apply some makeup on her so that she could feel a little more pepped up and herself. It actually helped her feel good about herself. I can’t see that as being bad. The friends and family who did this for her knew it would help her feel better.

I guess one can say that it is a false image of oneself, but I’m not too sure of that. If it helps a person feel more like her true self, it can’t be false.

Really, when you think about it, everything we choose to wear from makeup, to clothes, to shoes and even to our hairstyles, we are all putting out a persona. Sometimes, it truly is ourselves. Sometimes it is who we’d like other to see ourselves. And sometimes, it’s a little bit from column A and a little bit from column B. How many times have we said to ourselves especially in our teens and early 20s, “Those people have no idea who I truly am.” ? By changing our persona on the outside, we create what we want (conciously and subconciously) others around us to see us as. That can be from wanting people to see us as humble, non-materialistic people to hip and in-style people.
 
Not only do I think it is materialistic and vain, it is made of the most disgusting ingredients. I don’t want that on my hands let alone my face! Near my mouth and eyes? No way!
 
I generally do not wear make-up. :cool:

Much to the relief to the ladies I have dated.
Funny!!!

I bet I can say that I am one of the few ladies on these boards whose husband actually wears more makeup than she does…

Bet that got your attention! 😉 DH is a TV news anchor, and would look like a ghost under the lights if didn’t have his Max Factor pancake makeup at the ready.

I love days at home when I don’t wear any makeup and often don’t even put in my contacts. However, when I head out to meetings, shopping, etc., I always wear light makeup so as not to look tired, and to maintain the pretense that I really do have eyelashes. I learned in my teens how to apply makeup well, and believe that less is detinitely more. I almost always use a little perfume (Daisy by Marc Jacobs).
 
Not only do I think it is materialistic and vain, it is made of the most disgusting ingredients. I don’t want that on my hands let alone my face! Near my mouth and eyes? No way!
Judge not! :tsktsk:
 
Judge not! :tsktsk:
oh, honey, I’m not judging anyone else–if they’d like to wear make-up fine and dandy. I’m an extremely nonjudgemental person if you knew me…

But the chemicals and such in make-ups are really nasty. I stated that I would never wear the stuff, and the question was asking if I as an individual wore make-up. If you’d like to, that is great. I wouldn’t look at you twice.

And it would be vain for me to spend all that time in front of the mirror, worrying about what I look like, and spend all that money of the stuff.

My husband likes me without makeup, I like me without makeup. 🤷

That is just me.

Hope that helps clarify my point.
 
oh, honey, I’m not judging anyone else–if they’d like to wear make-up fine and dandy. I’m an extremely nonjudgemental person if you knew me…

But the chemicals and such in make-ups are really nasty. I stated that I would never wear the stuff, and the question was asking if I as an individual wore make-up. If you’d like to, that is great. I wouldn’t look at you twice.

And it would be vain for me to spend all that time in front of the mirror, worrying about what I look like, and spend all that money of the stuff.

My husband likes me without makeup, I like me without makeup. 🤷

That is just me.

Hope that helps clarify my point.
Clarified!

But, there are many newer, mineral-based products, and other more natural products that aren’t “nasty.” And, you don’t have to spend a lot, as pointed out by other posters.

If your husband is happy with you “au naturel”, then you must have better assets than I have! 😉
 
Not only do I think it is materialistic and vain, it is made of the most disgusting ingredients. I don’t want that on my hands let alone my face! Near my mouth and eyes? No way!
***I hear you – I buy organic products because of this. ***
 
Clarified!

But, there are many newer, mineral-based products, and other more natural products that aren’t “nasty.” And, you don’t have to spend a lot, as pointed out by other posters.

If your husband is happy with you “au naturel”, then you must have better assets than I have! 😉
Yeah I haven’t ever looked at the mineral based ones. I’m 31 and just starting to fall apart, and well see what I’m saying after this next baby ;). Maybe I’ll be running down the street for something!

A lot of some is a lot for others. I did splurge on some facial cleanser (plant based), before that I just used soap. The good stuff seems so expensive to me… 🤷
 
No, unless its for a wedding and i did wear it for my high school formal. I hate the feel of it on my skin and I’m always worried about it coming off. It also makes me feel self conscious and less confident.
Besides i don’t think I’m ugly or old enough to need it.
 
My husband doesn’t care for made up women, he says it makes him afraid to even touch them. He might mess something up and get yelled at. He thinks I’m more beautiful without any on.

We have been married for 43 years and we are still deeply in love so, I believe him.
I do not wear makeup. I feel that we should be happy with what God gave us. I do not find makeup to be necessary or appropriate. My husband feels the same way.
You are both very blessed to have such loving husbands. 🙂
 
Yes, I wear Bear Minerals, because it does an excellent job at covering up blemishes, and helping a skin problem I have on my face, which can sometimes even be painful during bad flare-ups. I’m very glad it’s on the market.

I’ve had prescription creams for it, but I prefer not to use them. One prescription I had was known for causing brain tumors in lab rats, and another is known to thin the skin.

As for the other stuff, like eye makeup, I wear enough to enhance, but not enough to make me look like a drag queen.

I am envious of women who can look just as beautiful without makeup, though.
 
You are both very blessed to have such loving husbands. 🙂
You are paying these men a real compliment and I don’t mean to detract from that.

It does bother me a little, however, that a woman whose husband doesn’t feel she should, or “needs” to, paint her face is “blessed”.

I have no problem with any of the comments about good grooming and the messages that sends about how we live our Christian lives, but make up is not an essential part of good grooming. (I don’t regard make-up to cover birth marks or sun damage as “make up” in the sense that is being discussed here.) If a woman feels better groomed for wearing make up, good for her and she should wear it. An immaculately-dressed woman without makeup, however, is just as “well groomed” as one with makeup.

(monicatholic - I wear earrings 24/7, not just every day! 😛 )
 
You are paying these men a real compliment and I don’t mean to detract from that.

It does bother me a little, however, that a woman whose husband doesn’t feel she should, or “needs” to, paint her face is “blessed”.
Sorry to be dense, but I don’t follow you … what bothers you? Saying that a good husband is a blessing? Or something else? 🙂
I have no problem with any of the comments about good grooming and the messages that sends about how we live our Christian lives, but make up is not an essential part of good grooming. If a woman feels better groomed for wearing make up, good for her and she should wear it. An immaculately-dressed woman without makeup, however, is just as “well groomed” as one with makeup.)
Agreed on all counts! :clapping: 👍
 
I wear Bare Escentuals make-up. I’ve been wearing it for five years now. I like it because it is natural and it does not make me look as though I’ve got gobs and gobs of makeup. When I helped out at the Cathedral, I would sometimes be working on preparations for special liturgies up until the last minute, which meant that I would need a place to apply my makeup. This place was the sacristy. The lighting was good and the mirror was huge. Unfortunately, my rector walked in on me as I was wrapping up. He looked at my lipstick and said that it was not his shade. :eek: But, he knew the time constraints and was considerate.

I’ve been able to do this, especially with BE, under fifteen minutes, and, that is a full face. Without makeup I have a multitude of sins (facial flaws) that would cause my dachshunds to run from me. BE gives me confidence and the colors are not garrish. Of course, I must confess that I spend a lot of money since I tend to pick up just every new kit that comes out on QVC, Sephora, Ulta and the boutique. My purse is so full of Buxom Lips, lipsticks and glosses that I could actually use it as a lethal weapon.

I also wear philosophy fragrances. I suffer from migraines. Scents like Channel, Juicy Couture and the other department store fragrances kill me. I was skeptical about ordering Amazing Grace, Pure Grace, Baby Grace, Falling in Love and Unconditional Love, but, when I tried each of them out, I was migraine free. I especially love Pure Grace shower cream. The other shower gels matching the fragrances are also excellent. I also use Ultimate Clean and Fresh Laundry by Clean. If you suffer from migraines, the Clean brand is just as good as philosophy.
 
Perosonally, I only wear make up, when a) I’m all dressed up to go to church, b) going out with some really girly girl friends and want to fit in c) or sometimes just put it on to hide my zits and make myself feel better about my looks.
 
I only wear eye make up and occasionally perfume. I don’t like the feeling that foundation and concealers leave on my face. I honestly don’t think I need them either. Everyone has inner beauty that is more important than outer appearances.
 
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