Latin Mass should become more normal in Roman rite, says Cardinal Castrillon

[Unitas]

But I would also like to know what is being said without having to bury my head in a Missal. And if I am not able to vocalize the prayers, how is that actual participation?

From Sacramentum Caritatis:

Actuosa Participatio (Actual Participation)

52…Yet we must not overlook the fact that some misunderstanding has occasionally arisen concerning the precise meaning of this participation. It should be made clear that the word “participation” does not refer to mere external activity during the celebration.

Not being able to vocalize the prayers due to temporary inability or by liturgical prescription doesn’t necessarily mean you’re not participating. Praying the rosary silently to yourself doesn’t mean you’re not participating, does it? Of course not. The same can be applied to praying the mass.

Participation is first and foremost and act of the spirit which then externalizes. A lack of externalization doesn’t negate the primary act of participation by the spirit. The spirit doesn’t require the actions of the body to validate it’s participation.

 

[goofyjim]

Thus the universality of the Tridentine rite or Mass of Pope St. Pius V. This brings us all together as one culture, one people of God. When it comes to the Church, individualism is not a good thing. We are supposed to focus on God, not ourselves or our different cultures.

This thread really tests my patience. I hear the ridicule now of those who try to follow along with the Mass by reading the Missal. At least while it is English I have no need to do that. I will not leave the Church if we return to the Latin Mass but I just might silently say the prayers in English since my Missal does give the English interpretation. My faith is more important to me than what language the Mass is said in but apparently if so many left when we went to English how can they make that same claim?

 

[Unitas]

We also must remember that we are Catholic or universal and must allow for a host of different cultural backgrounds.

A host of different backgrounds which share one bread as one Body as a single Rite unified by the universal tongue of our Rite as an expression of that unity, despite cultural differences.

 

[Margita]

Hello,
something tells me this thread is in danger of being locked if we don’t come to our senses - nobody is obliged to attend a Latin mass if they don’t want to. I’ve made my own mistakes here and learnt from them, let us make each other the sign of the peace.

 

[rlg94086]

Another thing that is forgotten her is that English is based on Latin. Many of our root words and even common words are derived from the Latin and Greek.

Uh…I wouldn’t go that far. English does have a lot of Latin and Greek influence, but it is Germanic. German is not a Latin language.

 

[rlg94086]

This thread really tests my patience. I hear the*** ridicule*** now of those who try to follow along with the Mass by reading the Missal. At least while it is English I have no need to do that. I will not leave the Church if we return to the Latin Mass but I just might silently say the prayers in English since my Missal does give the English interpretation. My faith is more important to me than what language the Mass is said in but apparently if so many left when we went to English how can they make that same claim?

Don’t take things so personally Jim. I haven’t read anyone ridiculing those who try to follow along by reading the Missal.

 

[goofyjim]

Uh…I wouldn’t go that far. English does have a lot of Latin and Greek influence, but it is Germanic. German is not a Latin language.

My high school German teacher would have disagreed with you. He insisted it was a romance language.

 

[Jean_Anthony]

This thread is now closed. Thank you to all who participated.