Leading Catholic Exorcist Sees Signs of Demonic Oppression and Possession in Unhinged American Left

[tomarin]

@StudentMI it can be an absorbing game (especially if you’re playing against Death).

 

[OneSheep]

Of what? My point is that Fr R is saying that it looks like there might be demonic influence.

Again, if someone made that interpretation of something you said, would you say that such is the most favorable?

They themselves say they are involved in very questionable “spiritual” practices.

Again, does the word “questionable” make the interpretation favorable, or does it make an accusation?

I am not sure what the interpretation is that needs to be made.

What kind of interpretation would you like made of your own words? People do what they think is best, they are trying to make the world a better place. You do this also! If someone said of your actions and words, “they are influenced by the devil”, would you not say that there might be a more favorable interpretation? (at the very least? )

OneSheep wrongly putting Fr. Ripperger’s unfavorable interpretation of an IDEOLOGY (communism),
and pretending that Fr. is rendering an unfavorable interpretation to a PERSON.

Ideologies are written by people, usually groups of people, so CCC2478 applies.

 

[Cathoholic]

OneSheep . . .

Ideologies are written by people . . . so CCC2478 applies.

No it doesn’t. I explicitly highlighted the salient portions of CCC 2478 because I knew you would wrongly make that claim. (I could see where you would have to be attempting to steer the argument).

Math books are written by people too but they don’t apply either.

Did you watch the videos before you commented?
Have you watched them by now?

 

[Annie]

Again, if someone made that interpretation of something you said, would you say that such is the most favorable?

Fr R said this not just because of something someone said or wrote, but because of actions he has seen over the course of some years.

Imagine that a patient goes to an ER and complains of hallucinations. The doctor runs a drug test and tells the patient LSD will do that to a person.

So the patient jumps off the table and says, why are you judging me? Why are you putting this bad interpretation on me?

You would probably think the patient was nuts, right?

Why?

Can you relate this to what I wrote earlier about Fr Ripperger’s being a spiritual doctor looking at symptoms of a spiritual disease?

People do what they think is best, they are trying to make the world a better place.

First of all, many, many, many people are in no way trying to make the world a better place. They are just trying to make the world a more comfortable place for themselves.

That aside, yes, there are many people who say they want to make the world a better place.

The problem is that intentions do not justify every action people might take. I may want to help the poor, but helping the poor does not justify bank robbery, does it?

If someone said of your actions and words, “they are influenced by the devil”, would you not say that there might be a more favorable interpretation?

If a priest, especially an exorcist, told me he thought my actions in a certain area were influenced by the devil, I would probably ask him why he thought that and discuss the situation with him. I do not want my actions to be influenced by the devil and would welcome the warning.

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I wonder if you think that saying certain actions are influenced by the devil is insulting a person? Could it be that you do not believe in the devil, or that you do not believe that he wants to influence us? That you think that it is just an insulting way of saying you don’t like what a person is saying or doing or advocating politically?

 

[Cathoholic]

You and Fr. Ripperger are right-on Annie.

And sometimes BLM leadership consorting with the preternatural realm is not so implicit and subtle . . . .

Specifically, Black Lives Matter co-founder Melina Abdula described BLM’s regular practice of necromancy, a significant cause of demonic oppression and possession, according to Adam C. Blai, Religious Demonologist for the Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh. . . .

. . . Now, here’s Melina Abula’s description of BLM necromancy and sprit conjuring. From The New American via The Gateway Pundit:

“Maybe I’m sharing too much, but we’ve become very intimate with the spirits that we call on regularly, right.” she explained. “Like, each of them seems to have a different presence and personality, you know. . . .

Cullors echoes the sentiments of Abdulla. “It’s a very important practice, um, hashtags are for us, are way more than a hashtag, it is, um, literally almost resurrecting a spirit so they can work through us to get the work that we need to get done,” said Cullors, one of the three founders of BLM. “I started to feel personally connected and responsible and accountable to them, both from a deeply political place, but also from a deeply spiritual place.”

. . . want to interact with evil spirits to gain power, and power is one of the devil’s most enticing offers. According to Hauntings, Possessions, and Exorcisms by Adam C. Blai:

A common con game played with the young, particularly the wounded and angry, is the offer of power. The satanic and demonic culture of black magic can resonate with internal feelings of neglect, hurt, and powerlessness experienced. . . can develop into a real relationship with the demonic.

Demonologists also warn us to never, ever say a demon’s name because merely saying or thinking a demon’s name can invoke that demon.

(Find out how to defeat Antifa/BLM with a Rosary.)

In other words, saying a demon’s name is how you get demon problems. Don’t do it. Don’t watch movies or read books that contain demons names. You’re playing with fire. Literally, you’re playing with the fires of hell when you mention, read, or think about a demon’s name.

So, what do BLM leaders do? They say their names. From The New American via The Gateway Pundit:

The whole “say his name” mantra also has deep spiritual significance, according to [BLM co-founder] Cullors. “When we say the names, right, so we speak their names, we say her name, say their names, we do that all the time that, you kind of invoke that spirit, and then those spirits actually become present with you,” she explained, revealing something that virtually none of the “useful idiots” attending BLM rallies understand. . . .

Evidence Mounts That BLM Works With Demons | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

 

[Cathoholic]

Faustian bargain , a pact whereby a person trades something of supreme moral or spiritual importance, such as personal values or the soul, for some worldly or material benefit, such as knowledge, power, or riches.

Faustian bargain | Story, Meaning, & Facts | Britannica

 

[OneSheep]

Ideologies are written by people . . . so CCC2478 applies.

Well, it would be difficult to make your case. Ideologies are statements by people, so there is no reason not to apply these. If you have a teaching that says otherwise, please bring it forth.

Math books are written by people too but they don’t apply either.

Yes, Math books do apply, as they can make statements, and the creation of the book itself is a “deed” done by a person. Again, an ideology is a statement made by people. Everyone is our neighbor.

Fr R said this not just because of something someone said or wrote, but because of actions he has seen over the course of some years

Okay, so now we are moving from words to actions? Can you think of an action (by the groups being criticized) that you would interpret as “influenced by the devil”, that we could not interpret in a more favorable way?

Imagine that a patient goes to an ER and complains of hallucinations. The doctor runs a drug test and tells the patient LSD will do that to a person.

So the patient jumps off the table and says, why are you judging me? Why are you putting this bad interpretation on me?

You would probably think the patient was nuts, right?

Well, the patient is under the influence of a drug. But bringing this back to the topic, are there actions by the groups that you would describe as “influenced by the devil”?

 

[Annie]

But bringing this back to the topic, are there actions by the groups that you would describe as “influenced by the devil?

Actually, how about if you answer my questions about your attitude towards the subject in general?

I wonder if you think that saying certain actions are influenced by the devil is insulting a person? Could it be that you do not believe in the devil, or that you do not believe that he wants to influence us? That you think that it is just an insulting way of saying you don’t like what a person is saying or doing or advocating politically?

 

[Cathoholic]

OneSheep . . .

If you have a teaching that says otherwise, please bring it forth.

Common sense says otherwise.

Ideologies are not the same as people.

If you have a teaching that says otherwise, please bring it forth.

OneSheep . . .

Everyone is our neighbor.

Including Fr. Ripperger whom you have seen fit to . . . critique.

 

[Cathoholic]

(name removed by moderator) . . .

‘It stands to reason’…

Course 101 at the University of Hard Knocks.

(name removed by moderator). Are you trying to say that ideologies ARE people?

They are not?

What ARE you attempting to put forth here?

Did you watch the videos (name removed by moderator)?

 

[OneSheep]

I wonder if you think that saying certain actions are influenced by the devil is insulting a person?

It can be. It depends on how the person defines “devil” and “influence”, and how they see their own actions. I think it is quite rare that a person would believe that their own actions are so influenced, especially those seeking social justice, as BLM does.

As for the rest of the questions, this thread is not about me. It is about claiming that the devil is influencing other people.

Are there actions by the groups that you would describe as “influenced by the devil?

Ideologies are not the same as people.

Correct. Ideologies are our neighbor’s words:

CCC2478 To avoid rash judgment, everyone should be careful to interpret insofar as possible his neighbor’s thoughts, words, and deeds in a favorable way:

Every good Christian ought to be more ready to give a favorable interpretation to another’s statement than to condemn it. But if he cannot do so, let him ask how the other understands it. And if the latter understands it badly, let the former correct him with love . If that does not suffice, let the Christian try all suitable ways to bring the other to a correct interpretation so that he may be saved

Ideologies are statements made usually by a group, but they may also be individual statements.

 

[Cathoholic]

OneSheep . . .

Ideologies are our neighbor’s words

So what?

Which “neighbor” do you think Fr. Ripperger was inappropriate towards?

And is Fr. Ripperger YOUR neighbor?

When I asked OneSheep if he has even seen the videos he is critiquing this was the response I got . . .

As for the rest of the questions, this thread is not about me.

Fine. But I am not asking you what your favorite sport was.

I was asking about how you examined the “evidence” that brought you to this conclusion.

Because so far I haven’t seen any except ipse dixit.

But fine. Don’t answer the question of if you have even seen the material you are critiquing.

Let the readers take note of that too.

 

[OneSheep]

Which “neighbor” do you think Fr. Ripperger was inappropriate towards?

I never used the word “inappropriate”.

And is Fr. Ripperger YOUR neighbor?

Of course, but I am not in conversation with him at the moment. Instead, I am asking people who agree with his interpretation what might be more favorable.

Do you agree with his interpretation? If so, what words or actions might he be addressing, such that you agree?

As for the rest of the questions, this thread is not about me.

I was responding to a different poster.

 

[Cathoholic]

OneSheep . . .

I never used the word “inappropriate”.

And I never quoted “inappropriate” either.

I drew the conclusion from you continually citing CCC 2478 as a means to level criticism against this priest here on CAF (with no evidence).

 

[Cathoholic]

OneSheep . . .

Of course, but I am not in conversation with him at the moment.

Why do you think I am interested in who you are conversing with? Especially when you just got done telling me this is not about you personally (which I agree with).

I mean really. If you won’t admit to even watching the videos, WHY keep bringing up the fact that you are not in “conversation” with Fr. Ripperger.

Everyone here knows that by assumption.

But what they do not know, is if you have even seen the material you are using to use CCC 2478 to criticise Fr. Ripperger with.

Look. Hold tenaciously to your “arguments”. I don’t care. I absolutely disagree with them though.

You have not made your case despite a plethora of posts.

 

[OneSheep]

you continually citing CCC 2478 as a means to level criticism

Hmm. Perhaps you could find a better word to describe what I am doing than “criticism”. I did not criticize his words, I said that there might be a more favorable interpretation. I could certainly think of one.

Could you perhaps find a more favorable interpretation of what I am asking?

 

[TMC]

Interesting that we have several threads discussing whether the Pope is a heretic (and sometimes worse), and that is apparently just fine, but a thread suggesting a priest is mistaken about something gets super heated.

 

[Cathoholic]

OneSheep . . .

I said that there might be a more favorable interpretation . . .

Then WHY bring it up?

That’s potentially true about ANY post or article virtually.

And I am going to let you go ahead and think the way you want to.

But I gotta tell you. From what I’ve seen, I disagree with your aspesions regarding Fr. Ripperger here.

 

[OneSheep]

Then WHY bring it up?

Here’s why:

CCC2478 To avoid rash judgment, everyone should be careful to interpret insofar as possible his neighbor’s thoughts, words, and deeds in a favorable way:

Every good Christian ought to be more ready to give a favorable interpretation to another’s statement than to condemn it. But if he cannot do so, let him ask how the other understands it. And if the latter understands it badly, let the former correct him with love . If that does not suffice, let the Christian try all suitable ways to bring the other to a correct interpretation so that he may be saved

You see, St. Paul warns us against factionism and discord. If the other side is said to “believe the same things as the devil”, then I am saying that there are more favorable interpretations of thoughts and actions by “Leftists”, “communists”, “socialists” or “BLM” or which ever group the priest is referring to.

Once we can understand where others are coming from, what their actual wants and needs are, then we can build a foundation that leads to reconciliation. Saying that others “believe the same things as the devil” is a non-starter, so a more favorable interpretation is fruitful. Would you like it if someone said that you believe the same things as the devil?

If you are seeing this as criticism, that is one of your own interpretations. Instead, I am inviting you, Fr. R., and whoever is reading to try to come up with a more favorable interpretation in addressing what he is.

All of us are capable of interpreting words and actions in less-than-favorable ways.

 

[Cathoholic]

A misapplication (in my opinion) if there ever was one.

I utterly disagree with you OneSheep.

And employing tautology (repeating the same argument using different words) is not going to be persuasive. At least to me here.