Let's talk about Mormonism

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It does matter. They are leading souls astray under the name of God. Using people and their money.
 
The simple truth is they don’t need to. When mormons find out that many of the prohibitory stances that the LDS church has, was a negative response to the legitimacy of the Catholic Church mormons will come looking for truth.
 
God can reach people in that faith the same way He does every where else. Why exert so much energy and stress over such things. Be the light God designed you to be and they will come looking for it.
 
I’m not saying that I don’t care about the members but the church is going to do what it’s going to do and it’s their money and their right. And I don’t care what they do with their money. That doesn’t mean I’m going to stop trying to save those who I can from getting caught up in it.
 
Apache75 said:
What business does a church have building shopping centers? I’m all for churches building or having real estate that is used for church needs. Examples like a food distribution center or soup kitchens or fields that have something growing in them to feed others. I’m not sure how you cant follow my logic. Its simple.
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You avoided my question.
Have you heard of the Vatican Bank?
If so, do you think they invest the Church’s resources in going businesses, or soup kitchens?
 
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Catholic-Mormon said:
For me and my perspective of things I see them as opposites to the same coin. One side cannot see the other looking through the eyes of the head of the coin, nor looking through the less revered tail of the coin. But if you take the coin and spin it on a table. I can see both sides as one complete sphere.
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To better understand your comments I need to ask a couple questions. You believe are each a side to a coin, like a dime is 10 cents regardless of what side is presented? So then Catholicism and the LDS are just two sides to the same coin, that no matter how presented, it is the same value?

How did you reach the conclusion that Catholicism and the LDS are compatible and both complete each other?
 
I would not give it a value. Simply an object with 2 sides. Each side contains very different things one is a head the other is the tail. I can accept that the LDS church is the tail or the part with a butt hole as it’s original leader. You still need it to have a complete coin. Let’s say the LDS church is where all the most dIsgusting doctrine that was ever believed about God had to be dealt with until it was purged from the body of Christ or the Church. That butt hole was needed. We may not like what comes out of it. Yet it is still an important part of the body. Those most disgusting doctrines are slowly being purged from the lds church.
 
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Let me start here, do you want to be LDS or do you want to be Christian (Catholic)? And please let us not get into the whole debate and whether the LDS are Christian. As an organization they are not, however many LDS people are capable of Christian-like behavior.

BTW I find some of your language from your post to be offensive in it’s graphic nature.
 
I am sorry you feel like it is graphic. Would you have preferred me to use medical terms, would that not be graphic. I felt the need to explain my position with any words I felt like I needed to use. I am sorry if it offended your sensibilities. I don’t believe you as a human have the right to declare who is and who is not a christian. I have always been a christian regardless of where or how I have felt to worship. So to give your question a short answer. Yes all of the above.


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All I can say is I’m beginning to understand more why the RCIA director asked you not to return.

As far as being a Christian, it has been established by better minds than my own on what a Christian is. The LDS organization is not a Christian faith. There is no grey there.
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however many LDS people are capable of Christian-like behavior.
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I guess you misread this part of my statement.
 
I think it is so interesting that “Christians” often say mormons are not cristians because mormons believe they can be one with God, they can be made perfect through Christ and become joint heirs with Christ. See John 17:23-23, Romans 8:17. So Christians get angry and say we a making ourselves like gods so
we can’t possibly be christians. But then you find Catholics like yourself who think they can act for god and say who is and who isn’t God’s and Chtist’s. You are already acting as if you are god, by condemning us. And then you say you are worried about our souls. Yes I know exactly why I am not welcomed in RCIA because I have already been judged a Heretic by the Catholics, when will they learn from history that they are not the judge God the eternal father is.
 
You just don’t get it. I am not God. I don’t judge who is or isn’t Christian. That has been decided by people with a much high rank than I. It is also not just a Catholic thing. Some Protestant churches do not believe the LDS organization is a Christian one. The LDS teach men (and only men) can become gods, not be “one with” God. They teach Jesus Christ was just a holy human (not divine) man who became exalted. There is so much more that precludes the LDS organization from being a Christian church.

If you could just step back a minute you will see I am referring to the whole LDS organization not you personally. There are two major religious groups who are Christians, the Catholics and the Protestants.
 
You are forgetting about the Oriental Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, and Assyrian Church of the East.
 
I lumped them all in with the Catholics. Probably not the best way to put it.
 
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I don’t judge who is or isn’t Christian.
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Really??? You are justifying your stance based on other men’s opinions. Did God give a revelation to you all saying that mormons were not Christians? Or is this just the reasoning of man, very learned taught theology men, but men all the same. I know my relationship with God and The Christ. My roots were planted in the Mormon church by God himself. And because I do not belong to one of the designated organizations I am not a Christian. I don’t know what old “teaching” you are talking about in the Mormon church. But neither man without the woman neither the woman without the man can ever hope to share in the creation the way that they can. And inherit that divine attribute.
 
Do you believe that Christ was born through intercourse?? Do you believe that mere men can become gods? Do you believe in 3 levels of Heaven? Do you believe that marriage is eternal? How about Jesus failing His church and letting men corrupt His Word? There are many other things too but I would like an honest answer from your heart on these things. Thank you.
 
Apache75 said:
Do you believe that Christ was born through intercourse?? Do you believe that mere men can become gods? Do you believe in 3 levels of Heaven? Do you believe that marriage is eternal? How about Jesus failing His church and letting men corrupt His Word? There are many other things too but I would like an honest answer from your heart on these things
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Good questions. These are some of the things I addressed in my letter to my local leadership in the lds church. No Christ was not born through intercourse. The LDS church never adopted that as official doctrine.

I believe they can become gods the same way the Bible uses that term as leaders with godly attributes see my above post for more of my views on that.
I believe in heaven there are many mansions so we all don’t end up in exactly the same place and state but how that is all organized I don’t know I leave that to God’s judgement.

I believe the goal in this life is to become part of God’s family as joint heirs with Christ I believe it is all one family so individual relationships seems unimportant to me, however I believe that we will be able to associate with those we concidered family here, hopefully we can all see each other as brothers and sisters.

I believe Jesus has managed the affairs of His church just fine while at the same time allowing men to make mistakes repent and become in better alignment with His teachings. Men had an impact on what is exactly recorded in scripture but I felt they did this with the help of the Holy Spirit. I believe scripture is the best man could do to put into words the divine. I do not believe in a general apostasy or need for a complete restoration. God has never left His people without a way to find Him and come unto him.

What other questions do you have or do these answer leave you with other questions about the above.
 
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Catholic-Mormon said:
Really??? You are justifying your stance based on other men’s opinions. Did God give a revelation to you all saying that mormons were not Christians? Or is this just the reasoning of man, very learned taught theology men, but men all the same. I know my relationship with God and The Christ. My roots were planted in the Mormon church by God himself. And because I do not belong to one of the designated organizations I am not a Christian. I don’t know what old “teaching” you are talking about in the Mormon church. But neither man without the woman neither the woman without the man can ever hope to share in the creation the way that they can. And inherit that divine attribute.
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I am done with this conversation with you.
 
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