Liturgical Dancers

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Thanks for your Comments COYOTE. 🙂

Is the timing Appropriate & has the Priest & Liturgists approved?

Does the content add to the Mass?

Art & Sculpture are all over the church for us to enjoy, reflect on , contemplate.

We are the The Body of Christ & His Church should the Mass be able to Grow with the times? Under the Guidence of the Biships, Rome , the Pope & Canon Law…

Doesn’t the Deacon have this Gift, public Speaking through the Ministry of the Word?

Is there a difference between using your Gift for Mass and at Mass. Timing? Appropriate?

Would your Singing Bowls be a asset to the drums, bongos, and guitar that the Music Minisrty could use to Praise our Lord & Savior?

The Topic was Liturgical Dancing. A Form of Praise!

Peace in Christ
 
SUPERB post, Coyote and right on the button!! Thanks for sharing. Of course I hope you haven’t given knitters and tatters, painters, animal lovers and tibetan singing bowl professionals, etc, ideas. :rotfl:

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Annie
 
I can’t bring myself to quote the pix and headline about the Jesuit from Boston dancing Stravinsky’s Rite of Spring without puking. If anybody has questions about the source of the scandal in Boston diocese we need look no further. As Father Hardon has been quoted “Alas, my poor Jesuits.”
 
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coyote:
I have been given the gift of visual art, perhaps it would be as valid for me to schlep my canvass and paint to mass and let the experience move me to paint my faith and joy?

Or, I have also been given the gift of having great love and reverence for Creation, so might I bring my reptiles, spiders, dogs, birds and cat to mass to share them with the community so they can experience the beauty and appreciation of God’s Creatures?

Or, having a gift for public speaking, perhaps I could write my own homily or story and read it out loud during Mass.

Or, having been given a gift for textile arts, I could bring my embroidery, my knitting, my tatting to Mass and let the experience guide my hands while I create textile art?

Or, I could bring my own tibetan singing bowls to mass and set them to singing during the good parts.

Or I could bring a sweetgrass braid and smudge just before eucharist.

After all, my works would be reflections of the glory of God that I find in the Mass. How could that be inappropriate?
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Well said. I’m good with steaks and beer. Maybe I need to hold a BBQ during Mass in the former choir loft? Liturgical BBQing…
 
Ut oh----another very scarey thread. I hope you never go to Mass in the Islands.

SuZ
 
There is a church in downtown Minneapolis that supports missions in Africa. There aren’t a lot of Africans in the Twin Cities area.

On the third Sunday of each month, they have a special “African Mass.” I attended it once. I will go back.

The music (native instruments and drums) and choir, singing in several African languages, is quite inspiring.

And the women! Wow! I was so embarassed as to what I was wearing. I was wearing dress pants and shirt, etc. They looked like a million dollars, dressed in their African tribal finery.

What I thought was rather unique was the “collection.”

We native-born U.S. Americans are used to the basket being passed. In the African Mass version, the congregation lines up and processes up the aisle, dancing in place as they move towards the sanctuary, and then deposits their offertory gifts in the basket at the foot of the altar.

Well, it’s different than what I am used to, but believe you me, it was quite inspiring.
 
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Lance:
I don’t know why but Father has all the actors barefooted and in white turtle necks with black slacks or dresses. I don’t care for it.
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Are you serious? :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
 
What would Mother Teresa say? I know what our Local priest would say, and I know what I would say.

If God wanted dancers at the sacrifice of the Mass, do you think he just forgot to insert it back before 10 years ago?
 
Yes, we have them. We call it sacred gesture, and it takes place at our two Sunday morning liturgies as the song of Thanksgiving. Personally, I wish it would go away, but the “liturgists” at our parish have latched onto it. I guess it kinda makes sense as it resembles the cultural hula of hawaii, and could be seen as enculturation, but there are no Hawaiians dancing it, so I wonder if it really fits?
 
When I attended Mass at Sacred Heart Cathedral in Gallup, New Mexico, the Paris Boys Choir came to town, guests of both the city and the diocese. They performed at the Cathedral, sang classical and sacred classical music (including Mozart’s *Requiem-*amazing!). For this performance, which was classy, respectable, and reverent, our old Monsignor removed the Blessed Sacrament from the Tabernacle and set the Sacred Species on an Altar of Repose away from the church. People need to think about Who is in the Sanctuary before they attempt such “programs.”
 
Local Basilica had “liturgic dancers” dancing to Ave Maria!!! Confirmed by pictures in the local newspaper. I can’t believe our Bishop let’s these folks get away with it. This diocese is so twisted. Liturgic dancers, a priest arrested for trying to hire a hooker, over $4 million spent on pedophile priest settlements, not one traditional looking (designed) church, no traditional Latin Mass, no Latin Novus Ordo Mass for that matter, a priest buying several domain names to make people go to his site rather a Lay organization site, not one ordained priest who was born in the diocese last year, churches being designed that look like a play is going on stage, etc. Thankfully this particular Bishop is retiring!

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JKirkLVNV:
When I attended Mass at Sacred Heart Cathedral in Gallup, New Mexico, the Paris Boys Choir came to town, guests of both the city and the diocese. They performed at the Cathedral, sang classical and sacred classical music (including Mozart’s *Requiem-*amazing!). For this performance, which was classy, respectable, and reverent, our old Monsignor removed the Blessed Sacrament from the Tabernacle and set the Sacred Species on an Altar of Repose away from the church. People need to think about Who is in the Sanctuary before they attempt such “programs.”
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You didn’t mention anything about dancing. The issue is dancing at Mass.
 
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Pisio:
Yes, we have them. We call it sacred gesture, and it takes place at our two Sunday morning liturgies as the song of Thanksgiving. Personally, I wish it would go away, but the “liturgists” at our parish have latched onto it. I guess it kinda makes sense as it resembles the cultural hula of hawaii, and could be seen as enculturation, but there are no Hawaiians dancing it, so I wonder if it really fits?
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If there is any place in the USA where liturgical dance is appropriate in the USA, it would be within the Hawaiian Islands.

I must admit I also retch at misleading labels like “sacred gesture”, “liturgical movement”, etc. It’s all a smoke screen…
 
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RBushlow:
You didn’t mention anything about dancing. The issue is dancing at Mass.
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Sorry if my point wasn’t clear. I was referring to the pictures of the “Clown Mass” and the acrobats in church. In light of those, it might make more sense reading "people need to think about Who is in the Sanctuary before they attempt such “programs.” Thank you for pointing out my need to clarify.
 
I’ve only ever seen it done tastefully once. Frankly I find it a complete and utter embarassment
 
John of Woking:
I’ve only ever seen it done tastefully once. Frankly I find it a complete and utter embarassment
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I’ve never seen it myself, please God I never will. What an abomination and desecration of the Divine Liturgy.
 
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PAX777:
Please be open to those who ar just tring to express their Faith with the talents God had given them.
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Where did we get the idea that the Mass is the right place for us to express our God-given talents? Why people are messing around with the Mass in this way really eludes me. Why not just drop the whole thing since only a very small minority seem interested in it, while the vast majority find it embarrassing and silly? Liturgical dance is certainly never a required part of the mass, so why add it at all if most people find it distracting?
 
My daughter is a dancer in the classical sense (ballet and jazz). We got a catalog in the mail from a company that sells dance shoes, leotards, etc. You will be interested, or should I say dismayed, to know that there were a couple of pages of costumes for “liturgical dance”

Capitalism makes good on Catholic dissent.
 
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