Living together but not having sex

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I didnt say adultery would be ok if society said it was. I said there is no scandal in living together because it is so normal.
 
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I didnt say adultery would be ok if society said it was. I said there is no scandal in living together because it is so normal.
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Scandal does not make fornication or living in a near occasion to sin any more okay than having an affair in a society that is fine with adultery. What society finds normal does not matter: society is corrupt.
 
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Well, I dont know about any of that. I do know that all 10 couples in our marriage prep lived together. I couldn’t tell you who was having sex or not. No one addressed it we weren’t told it was wrong. The priest and couples teaching the class never ever told us not to, we talked about our living situations in the group and each others habits. It wouldnt occur to me that this was scandalous to anyone or against the Church. We found it quite helpful in marriage prep.
 
The poster, and I took sex out of the equation. There is no fornication. And probably no more near occasion of sin than dark movie theater.
 
What about a man and woman who are platonic roommates? I’ve seen threads on CAF in the past where this is also condemned as the sin of scandal / near occasion of sin… but I don’t think it has to be. Let’s say the woman is 75 years old and the man is 25…maybe he’s renting a room from her. Would anyone assume they are having sex? Probably not. That’s an extreme example…but it demonstrates that it is not necessarily objectively sinful for a man and a woman, who are not married, to share a roof.
 
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I didnt say adultery would be ok if society said it was.
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You conditioned what is “wrong” based on what “most people” think is “wrong”

so yes per that logic, if “most people” no longer thought adultery was “wrong”, it wouldn’t be “wrong”
 
Right. It’s like when people live with a sibling. I dont assume to know their sex lives. In college my girlfriend lived with a gay roommate. Where is the scandal?
 
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In college my girlfriend lived with a gay roommate. Where is the scandal?
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Even if had sex w the gay roommate, still no “scandal” if “scandal” defined by what “most people” think is a “scandal”

Again, What does “scandal” mean here? Same as “wrong”?
 
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It’s an occasion to sin and scandalous, as LittleFlower said.

Consider that God Himself had to marry us, the Church, before we could come to live with Him in Heaven. Are we so great that we can (or should) follow the opposite of His example?
 
Actually I’m more in the dark about people who live together and their sex lives than the sex lives of those who dont live together. Those who dont seem to be more public about their intimacy.
I’m always surprised how up in everyone’s sexual business people are. I find not paying it any mind to be the more charitable approach.
 
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Actually I’m more in the dark about people who live together and their sex lives than the sex lives of those who dont live together. Those who dont seem to be more public about their intimacy.
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Where in anything that I quoted to you did it say that the details of that couple’s sex life had to be known? Talking about your sex life is inconsequential to whether or not your behavior is scandalous in this context.
 
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The poster wants to know why living together chastely is wrong. All I’ve seen is people saying “what will others think” in this day and age I can assure you, most people dont think anything about it. But going by the posts here, it would seem many people care too much about what does or doesnt happen. If they sin sexually they can remedy that with the Church. In my parish we were not taught living together was sinful. We were told fornication was sinful.
 
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People don’t intend to marry their siblings. People don’t act like their sibling is their significant other.
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If a brother and sister live together, people may assume they’re a couple if they don’t advertise their situation. That’s the thing…most people don’t know whether a given man and woman are married, dating, siblings, roommates etc. I don’t really know where the sin of scandal comes up unless you’re living in a small gossipy village.

I’m not advocating that dating couples live together before marriage. Near occasion of sin is definitely an issue there. But I’ve seen people on this forum say that even in non-romantic situations a man and a woman should not live under the same roof because of the sin of scandal. Again, unless you’re in a small gossipy village…who is going to notice, care or know?
 
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To be honest I’m not sure what anything means on this site. Scandal, etc. From what I’ve seen it’s just people asking questions and being told all sorts of things by anonymous people. I’m not interested in defining words like scandalous. To me it isnt.
 
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