(Luke 6:46) "Why do you call me, 'Lord,Lord' and not do what I say?"

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Jesus said (John 14:21) “anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”

(John 14:24) “Those who do not love me do not keep my words.”

(Matthew 7:21) “It is not those who say to me, ‘Lord, Lord’, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, work many miracles in your name?’ Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!”

(Luke 13:22) “Through towns and villages He went teaching, making His way to Jerusalem. Someone said to Him, ‘Sir, will there be only a few saved?’ He said to them, “Try your best to enter by the narrow door, because, I tell you many will try to enter and will not succeed.”

(John 12:47-48) “If anyone hears my words and does not keep them faithfully, it is not I who shall condemn Him, since I have come not to condemn the world, but to save the world: he who rejects Me and refuses My words has his judge already, the word itself that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day.”

(Luke 12:33) “Sell your possessions and give alms. Get yourselves purses that do not wear out, treasure that will not fail you, in Heaven where no thief can reach it and no moth destroy it. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.”

(Luke 14:33) “So in the same way, none of you can be my disciple unless he gives up all his possessions.”

(Matthew 6:19) “Do not store up treasures for yourselves on earth, where moths and woodworms destroy them and thieves can break in and steal.”

(Matthew 5:43-44) “You have learnt how it was said, you must love your neighbor and hate your enemy, but I say this to you: love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.”

(Romans 12:18-21) “Do all you can to live at peace with everyone. Never try to get revenge; leave that, my friends, to God’s anger. As scripture says: ‘vengeance is Mine I will pay them back, the Lord promises,’ but there is more: if your enemy is hungry, you should give him food, and if he is thirsty, let him drink. Thus you heap red-hot coals on his head. Resist evil and conquer it with good.”

(1 Corinthians 6:9-19) “You know perfectly well that people who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God: people of immoral lives, idolaters, adulterers, catamites, sodomites, thieves, usurers, drunkards, slanders and swindles will never inherit the kingdom of God.”
 
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Sherlock:
What’s your question? What’s the point of your post?
He thinks he’s proof-texted the Catholic Church into irrelevance based on his own infallible understanding of scripture.

Or, since sometimes I can be a glass half-full kind of guy, I think this is yet another opportunity for Giver to thoroughly refute and discredit himself.
 
That’s funny…my New Testament desn’t have any different colored letters for any particular words like that, and I’ve never seen the word catamites in any Bible before.

I have to assume that from your emphasis that you are asserting something though I suggest that if you really have anything to offer that you’ll do something other than offer some out of context passages of the Bible.

Are these favorites of yours?
I have some too…

John 20:28 Thomas answered, and said to him: My Lord, and my God.

John 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven. 52 If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, for the life of the world.

Ecclesiastes 1:2 Vanity of vanities, said Ecclesiastes vanity of vanities, and all is vanity.

Matthew 25: 31 And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. 32 And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. 34 Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in:

36 Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. 37 Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? 39 Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? 40 And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.

41 Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. 43 I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me. 44 Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? 45 Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me.

46 And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting.

(Especially) Matthew 25:40 And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.
 
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montanaman:
He thinks he’s proof-texted the Catholic Church into irrelevance based on his own infallible understanding of scripture.
That’s funny, because this text tends to prove that the Catholic Church, instead of dis-prove it.

I’m never clear on what our friend, Robert Heibel, er, Giver, is trying to say in his posts.

Notworthy
 
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NotWorthy:
That’s funny, because this text tends to prove that the Catholic Church, instead of dis-prove it.

I’m never clear on what our friend, Robert Heibel, er, Giver, is trying to say in his posts.

Notworthy
We’ve got a guy like Giver (only lazier) over at the Protest Warrior forum. He posts one or two lines, maybe a verse, or sometimes just a picture of a medieval torture device, and then just runs. It’s maddening. He never makes a case–he just posts some passive-aggressive nonsense and then claims victory.

I’m getting too old for this (stuff).
 
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Sherlock:
What’s your question? What’s the point of your post?
Jesus said (John 14:21) “anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”

Well, I’m just bringing a word to people. Jesus told us that His people hear his voice and in (John 14:21) Jesus says he will show himself to people who keep his commandments.

I am trying to get people, that haven’t heard Jesus voice or had Jesus show himself to them, to wonder why.
 
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Giver:
Jesus said (John 14:21) “anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”

Well, I’m just bringing a word to people. Jesus told us that His people hear his voice and in (John 14:21) Jesus says he will show himself to people who keep his commandments.

I am trying to get people, that haven’t heard Jesus voice or had Jesus show himself to them, to wonder why.
Thanks, but he has. Might want to try some atheist or militant anti-Catholic forums. I’m pretty sure you’ll find people there who don’t know Jesus.

Too many people here are already well on their way in the spiritual walk with Jesus, and too many have exposed your many, many errors. So, I’m just going to assume it’s vanity that keeps you coming back here.
 
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Giver:
Jesus said (John 14:21) “anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”

Well, I’m just bringing a word to people. Jesus told us that His people hear his voice and in (John 14:21) Jesus says he will show himself to people who keep his commandments.

I am trying to get people, that haven’t heard Jesus voice or had Jesus show himself to them, to wonder why.
Wouldn’t you rather do that at a non-believer’s forum??
 
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Sherlock:
What’s your question? What’s the point of your post?
I think he’s trying to condemn Catholics because he might believe we don’t do what our Lord says.:rolleyes:
 
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Tonks40:
Wouldn’t you rather do that at a non-believer’s forum??
Just saying you believe in Jesus and that you know him, doesn’t mean much, Satan believes he is God also.

(Matthew 7:21) “It is not those who say to me, ‘Lord, Lord’, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, work many miracles in your name?’ Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!”
 
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Giver:
Just saying you believe in Jesus and that you know him, doesn’t mean much, Satan believes he is God also.

(Matthew 7:21) “It is not those who say to me, ‘Lord, Lord’, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, work many miracles in your name?’ Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!”
Hey, thanks for the judgment! 👍

To liberally paraphrase Brad Pitt in “Seven,” Are you ever sitting there, basking in your own sense of self-importance, when you think, “Man, am I totally crazy, or am I being presumptuous, condescending usurper of Christ’s role as judge?”
 
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Giver:
Just saying you believe in Jesus and that you know him, doesn’t mean much, Satan believes he is God also.

(Matthew 7:21) “It is not those who say to me, ‘Lord, Lord’, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, work many miracles in your name?’ Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!”
So, Giver, please tell us what are you trying to tell us??:ehh:
 
But Giver, I do hear Jesus. Didn’t He say, “Whoever listens to you listens to me. Whoever rejects you rejects me. And whoever rejects me rejects the one who sent me.”?

I hear Him each and every time I go to Mass, praise the Lord!

Notworthy
 
I am trying to get people, that haven’t heard Jesus voice or had Jesus show himself to them, to wonder why.
Are you insiuating that nobody here has listened to Jesus? Only you?
and I shall love him and show myself to him.”
And are we to assume that Jesus showed Himself personally to you?

Oh, and since you seem to take things literally as in the other posts about “call no man father” why are you posting here? You should be attempting to call everybody and tell them so that we can “hear” the word of God. I dont “hear” anything that is posted here but I “read” and Jesus said that we were to “hear” his voice.
I think he’s trying to condemn Catholics because he might believe we don’t do what our Lord says
Yep, and Jesus personally told him that the Church or for that matter none of the Churchs are interpreting the Bible correctly, so its Robert Heibel aka Giver aka messanger of God, who has been given the mission to enlighten the CC who has been in the dark for 2000 years.

Giver, I asked you this before but you never answered. How about the following? Are you doing what Jesus told you?
Matt 18:17 …and if he refuses to hear **the church **also, let him be unto thee as the Gentile and the publican.
and
Luke 10:16" Anyone who listens to you listens to me; anyone who rejects you rejects me, and those who reject me reject the one who sent me."
Are you listening to the Church? If not I wonder why?
 
Just saying you believe in Jesus and that you know him, doesn’t mean much, Satan believes he is God also.
So you are able to read the hearts of all the posters here huh?
Giver Gee, did you miss the part about judging others? Lets see, where is it,oh, yeah here it is,Luke 6:37 do not judge and you will not be judged yourselves….
Again Giver, from what you have told us, apparently you are hearing voices and** THEY ARE NOT OF GOD**. Do you honestly think that Jesus will go against the Church He founded? You are not thinking about this!!!

Things have been given to you regarding self-interpretation but you claim they are not yours but Jesus’, yet proof after proof has been supplied to you as to what the Church that Jesus founded is saying but you “refuse to listen to the Church”. Instead you listen to your “voices” and claim they are of God. HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY ARE OF GOD? A red flag should have gone up inside your head the moment those voices went against the Church that Jesus founded.
 
Ecclesiastes 12:12
Be warned, my son, of anything in addition to them. Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.
 
Giver said:
Just saying you believe in Jesus and that you know him, doesn’t mean much, Satan believes he is God also.

(Matthew 7:21) “It is not those who say to me, ‘Lord, Lord’, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. **When the day comes many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, **cast out demons in Your name, work many miracles in your name?’ Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!”And in saying that you straightway disqualify your own testimony Robert. Give it up…
 
Giver,

Jesus shows himself to us at every Mass! I eat his flesh and drink his blood at every Mass! I would suggest you head to your nearest Catholic church straightaway and bask in the real presence of Christ in the Tabernacle or during adoration. You are right, he does reveal himself to us and you can find him physically present at any Catholic church! 👍
 
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St.Eric:
Giver,

Jesus shows himself to us at every Mass! I eat his flesh and drink his blood at every Mass! I would suggest you head to your nearest Catholic church straightaway and bask in the real presence of Christ in the Tabernacle or during adoration. You are right, he does reveal himself to us and you can find him physically present at any Catholic church! 👍
Yes I’m sure you can feel the Host, and taste the wine, but when is the last time the Host spoke to you?
 
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