Man, they are SO LOST!

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Chickamauga:
Well, if they ever do invite you to say the prayer at meals, throw 'em a curve ball and say it in Latin… and then listen for all the jaws hitting the table. :dancing:

*BENEDIC, Domine, nos et haec tua dona quae de tua largitate sumus sumpturi. Per Christum Dominum nostrum. Amen. *

(BLESS us, O Lord, and these Thy gifts which we are about to receive from Thy bounty, through Christ our Lord. Amen.)
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After they say amen, I would just squeeze in the Latin! :cool:
 
BENEDIC, Domine, nos et haec tua dona quae de tua largitate sumus sumpturi. Per Christum Dominum nostrum. Amen.
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Since my latin is not, how bout give me a phonetic version?
 
Keep in mind that people such at this don’t really hate the Church, they merely hate a caricature of the Church.
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sadie2723:
Check this one out…Just pulled this off another website. This Lutheran minister is asked if he considers all people who hate Catholics to be his friend. Here is what this “expert on Catholicism” says.

I replied, "My friends are not ‘any’ enemy of Catholics. My friends are those who love the Lord Jesus Christ and His Word above man-made tradition.

This is an EXPERT who has never looked at the Catholic faith a day in his life. Check out the rest…I will warn you that this will make you a bit angry.

wayoflife.org/fbns/fbns/fbns172.html
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They not only claim they are informed, they seem to genuinely believe they are.
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sadie2723:
Yes it is. I have no beef with those who are not “pretending” to be informed. My problem is with the people who claim that they are, and are really not. They are the dangerous ones and one day, they are going to have to answer for that.
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happygal:
Why we are believer forever criticizing one and other, shouldn’t we as believer should live in humanity? Lashing catty remarks are not a good practise in christianity. I hope all protestant and catholic believers can leave hand in hand in humanity. Amen!!!
Please do not let non-believers laugh at us for our individual ignorance. I do not know what kind of comments you can give to non-believers if they start lashing out nasty remarks about christianity.
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Unfortunately, most attacks by non-believers are thoroughly justified - if anything, Christianity is probably a thousand times worse than it is said to be. It brings out the worst in people terribly.​

That’s why grace is so vitally important - God knows perfectly how devilish we can be; but considers His mercy and goodness, rather than what we deserve. ##
I have too faced many nasty remarks directed from non-believer (I’m from Asia where they are different religions).

People will say stuff like, christianity not uniform as one, always figthing who’s practise is correct…this is how your god teaches everyone to do, if that’s the case i rather be a free thinker then to have such a complicated and unpleasant religion that does not comprehen one and other and does not exercise humanity.
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Exactly - all that these wretched attacks on Christian by Christians achieve, is to show “how much these Christians hate one another” - who needs atheists, when there are Christians to rip each other into tiny pieces ? We are our own worst enemies. What good is it to belong in a Church, if all that being in a Church does, is make one twice as much a child of Hell as an unbeliever ?​

So when i came in this forum i was alittle upset to see so much of remarks flying around. I’m a protestant, but i do not stand any negative thoughts about catholicism, neither will i deny other denomination practises. Because as believers (we all believe in Jesus) we should be like Christ like, kind and loving to others!!!
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Well said !​

I can’t see the slightest difference between Catholic dissing of Protestants, and Protestant dissing of Catholics. The complaints are the same, the accusations are the same, the impregnable self-righteousness is the same…all that differs is the label: one lot has the label “Catholic”, the others has the label “Protestant”.

There is sort of a warped ecumenism here - the two groups agree in dissing each other, but in nothing else. How can Christians be “lights in the world” and “light in the Lord”, if all we have to offer is spiteful bickering and mutual contempt ? There is already far too much of those as it is. ##
 
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Alfie:
I hate to say this because it sounds bigotted but that is because a Protestant is not moved by the Hoy Spirit to convert to Catholism.
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Bigoted? No. 100% and completely ignorant? Completely.

Here I stand, now in the Catholic Church, from the moment that I sat in an Evangelical Church with tears running down my face because the Holy Spirit had convicted me and opened my eyes to the fact that I could not recieve communion with my brothers and sisters in Christ. The Real Presence and the Holy Spirit brought me to the Catholic Church.

You are ignorant of true Catholic teachings. As well as, I had wrote insulting, to those of us who are here to testify to the wonderous work of the Holy Spirit, but truly, I am just incredibly saddened by your inability and refusal to acknowledge part of the body of Christ and the work of the Holy Spirit.

May God Bless you and keep you safe,
Maria
 
I got turned down too (when I tried to join). I thought that since I was a former Baptist I might stand a better chance…they might want to help correct me or something, but I guess not. Oh well, it was worth a try. 🙂

Lisa
 
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Lischou:
I got turned down too (when I tried to join). I thought that since I was a former Baptist I might stand a better chance…they might want to help correct me or something, but I guess not. Oh well, it was worth a try. 🙂

Lisa
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Peace.

Is there some serious celebrating today in Fairfax, VA with George Mason’s win over UConn yesterday in the NCAA Men’s tournament?

Peace.
 
Short off-topic tour: I have heard a lot of people talking about it and they seem pretty excited. I’m a Tarheel fan myself…but it would be cool for G. Mason to win. 🙂

Lisa
 
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Alfie:
And have you ever read anything about the Evangelical faith without a catholic slant? If Catholics hear a spirit filled pastor preach the message of salvation there are a sizable number of them that will be moved by the Holy Spirit and immediately get saved. If a Protestant becomes a Catholic it is usually a long drawn out process. I have rarely heard of a Protestant going into a Catholic church and being immediately converted. I hate to say this because it sounds bigotted but that is because a Protestant is not moved by the Hoy Spirit to convert to Catholism.
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Maybe this is because becoming Catholic involves lots of thought, prayer and contemplation, whereas some forms of Protestant Christianity let you pick and choose? A lot of them tried to fight it, but kept being pulled in by the Holy Spirit. I myself tried to fight coming back to the Church, looking for some possible loop hole, some way out… but it was impossible. 🙂 Sometimes it takes this long because they need to work out things with their Protestant relatives, and deal with the fact that they will lose some friendships and will have hurt feelings over rejecting their parent’s faith. Sometimes they are disowned. No offense, but all Protestants I know who have converted to the Catholic Faith did it over a 2 or 3 year period. The Catholic Church does not want “immediate” converts, and some remain catechumens for years. My girlfriend is a 3 year catechumen and believes everything the Catholic Church teaches but just isn’t sure if she’s ready to take the plunge yet. Becoming Catholic is a big decision. Having “immediate” conversions is not what the Catholic Church is about… She wants people to be Catholics for life, educated in the Faith and not to church shop. I can say that I am saved, being saved and hope to be saved. 🙂 Salvation isn’t just a one time process where you look back on a date and say “I was saved” on such and such, it is a lifelong process.

In the words of Saint Paul… I am working out my salvation with fear and trembling.
Phil 2:12:
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
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Alfie:
And have you ever read anything about the Evangelical faith without a catholic slant? If Catholics hear a spirit filled pastor preach the message of salvation there are a sizable number of them that will be moved by the Holy Spirit and immediately get saved. If a Protestant becomes a Catholic it is usually a long drawn out process. I have rarely heard of a Protestant going into a Catholic church and being immediately converted. I hate to say this because it sounds bigotted but that is because a Protestant is not moved by the Hoy Spirit to convert to Catholism.
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Semper Fi:
Maybe this is because becoming Catholic involves lots of thought, prayer and contemplation, whereas some forms of Protestant Christianity let you pick and choose? No offense, but all Protestants I know who have converted to the Catholic Faith did it over a 2 or 3 year period. The Catholic Church does not want “immediate” converts, and some remain catechumens for years. My girlfriend is a 3 year catechumen and believes everything the Catholic Church teaches but just isn’t sure if she’s ready to take the plunge yet. Becoming Catholic is a big decision. Having “immediate” conversions is not what the Catholic Church is about… She wants people to be Catholics for life and not to church shop. I can say that I am saved, being saved and hope to be saved. 🙂 Salvation isn’t just a one time process where you look back on a date and say “I was saved” on such and such, it is a lifelong process.
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Luke 8:11. Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God…13. Now they upon the rock are they who when they hear receive the word with joy: and these have no roots: for they believe for a while and in time of temptation they fall away…15. But that on the good ground are they who in a good and perfect heart, hearing the word, keep it and bring forth fruit in patience.

Alfie, I agree with Sempir Fi.

No offense, but I am in a relationship with God for the long-run, not based on a spontaneous event influenced by emotion-of-the-moment lest those around me pass judgment for my staying seated. Revivals are positive for calling people, but the next step should be pursuing the truth that is the Catholic Church. I can understand it is scary because, suddenly, a person is considering Catholicsm and who know what has been told to that person about Catholicsm by non-Catholics and anti-Catholics. Rely on the converts on this site. They are truly spiritually brave souls.

Peace.
 
Turned down?
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Lischou:
I got turned down too (when I tried to join). I thought that since I was a former Baptist I might stand a better chance…they might want to help correct me or something, but I guess not. Oh well, it was worth a try. 🙂

Lisa
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jim1130:
Revivals are positive for calling people, .
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Did you know that only 1% of people who answer altar calls at Billy Graham crusades actually remain a Christian after the feelings wear off?

That’s why becoming Catholic isn’t instantaneous. It’s not about reacting to feelings in the moment but rather about living permanently in the truth. I find it interesting that anyone would consider that a negative.

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
 
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sadie2723:
I was just over on the Baptist Board, and they are having a little debate: “Catholicism…cult or not?” I could not resist, I just had to read on. So I went through a few posts. Nothing has changed. I am consistently amazed at the level of ignorance out there about the Catholic faith. How many times do we have to say that we do not worship Mary before they believe us? How many times do we have to say that we are not saved by works? I tell you, friends, I think that people have become so obsessed with winning the argument that they no longer will recognize reason even it hits them in the nose. Anybody got any ideas on this one? I am really tired of ignorant people acting as if they know something about being Catholic just because they read a book by some bigot.
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I’ve never posted there, but I’ve been reading that forum for about two months. I can’t get over how critical and condemning most of them are. Not just towards the Catholic Church, but in general. (Have you read the KJV thread?) The posters there don’t seem to be very charitable, and there is a lot of ignorance. It makes me sad for them. I prayed for the people on that forum the other day when I was reading.
 
True, there’s a lot of ignorance, but there also seem to be a lot of pride among people like that.
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jbsmith:
I’ve never posted there, but I’ve been reading that forum for about two months. I can’t get over how critical and condemning most of them are. Not just towards the Catholic Church, but in general. (Have you read the KJV thread?) The posters there don’t seem to be very charitable, and there is a lot of ignorance. It makes me sad for them. I prayed for the people on that forum the other day when I was reading.
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happygal:
What is the point of lashing out? Isn’t everyone are trying to let other see Jesus in us?

Anyway i have been bearing all those negative comments coming from catholic for many time, coz i do not see a point of telling them of and if i’m not careful with our words, it shall be lashing out catty remarks which in return committing a slander. The truth is from the God and not from Humans.

So fellow brothers and sisters, as a spiritual Christian ,let’s forgive those who have hurt and anger us. Amen
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:amen:

I like your attitude. We’re all called to forgive.
 
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Catholic4aReasn:
True, there’s a lot of ignorance, but there also seem to be a lot of pride among people like that.
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I agree, I detect a lot of pride among the posters on that forum. It doesn’t make me angry, it just makes me sad for them.
 
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