Mandatory mask poll

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TULIPed said:
In fact - what a perfect, simple way to be more Christ-like. Especially if you really, really don’t want to wear a mask!
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What Christ did actually did something.

I am not convinced my wearing a mask does anything.
Unless I am carrying the virus. Then the mask is helping.
Of course, I am also telling everyone I have the virus.

Or perhaps I do not have the virus…and the mask is doing nothing.
 
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It depends on the mask I suppose. I have seen people on CAF claiming that condoms doesn’t protect against HIV, because the virus is smaller than the microskopic holes in the rubber. While that isn’t true since the HIV virus needs to be in fluids to transmit, if a mask has larger holes that allows aerosols to pass through, the mask will not be as effective.
 
vz71 said:
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TULIPed:
In fact - what a perfect, simple way to be more Christ-like. Especially if you really, really don’t want to wear a mask!
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What Christ did actually did something.

I am not convinced my wearing a mask does anything.
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But is there a chance that wearing a mask does something?
 
Christ did not do things on a mere chance of being effective.

Being Christlike means also being effective…it does not mean putting on a charade to make others feel better.
 
vz71 said:
I am not convinced my wearing a mask does anything.
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What if I told you that I know a 75 year old single woman who has to go to the grocery store every week. She’s terrified of the virus. What if you wearing a mask made her less fearful - even if we’re not sure it works. Would it not be helpful (even loving?) to her if you sacrificed your comfort for her psychological well being?
 
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Jen95:
The board who governs my workplace has decided that our patrons should wear masks.
If they hadn’t done so, how would you suggest that I magically find another job? At the same salary that I make now? In the same city? Some of us have specialized degrees and jobs. There are no other places to work at, within my city, with my qualifications.
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All jobs, in the end, are voluntary. There is always a give and take. If one does not want to work somewhere that allows people to be there without masks then one weighs that into the give and take. This is common sense adult type thinking, “does working here today still outweigh all that I am required to do and give up?” You seem very focused on salary and degrees. These likely would weigh very heavily into your assessment. In the end it is still an assessment that we all make daily.
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Strangely, I am focused on salary when I am trying to decide whether or not to quit my job and seek another.
I am focused on salary, because there are three children dependent on me for food, water, shelter, and somewhat expensive Catholic education.
 
TULIPed said:
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vz71:
I am not convinced my wearing a mask does anything.
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What if I told you that I know a 75 year old single woman who has to go to the grocery store every week. She’s terrified of the virus. What if you wearing a mask made her less fearful - even if we’re not sure it works. Would it not be helpful (even loving?) to her if you sacrificed your comfort for her psychological well being?
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And what if I chimed in that there are many older people I see working at Kroger. I bet that they’re afraid too.
Oh well, they’re supposed to just quit their jobs, you know. Along with bus drivers, anyone else who works with the public.
 
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Why then not sacrifice a little of yourself - your right not to wear a mask, your knowledge of science, your comfort, your health, your wellbeing - and wear one? Especially if you know that it would make others feel safer (even if - especially if - it makes no sense?). Is this not a perfect opportunity to exhibit sacrificial love for your neighbor?
 
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It would be nice if people would stop pretending like the science of antibodies is a new field that we have little knowledge of. Antibodies are very, very studied and we know that presence of antibodies almost always guarantees immunity. Antibody testing is for example routinely done on pregnant women to see if they still have immunity to rubella, because an infection can harm the fetus.

What we don’t know is how long the antibodies for covid last. Some antibodies disappear after some time, while others, like for measles, last for life (at least after an infection, we still don’t know if it’s lifelong after vaccination although it seems like they last for at least 40 years).
There is also speculation about the possibility of immunity without antibodies, through t-cells. But antibodies makes you immune.
 
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TULIPed said:
Why then not sacrifice a little of yourself - your right not to wear a mask, your knowledge of science, your comfort, your health, your wellbeing - and wear one?
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Sacrifice is very unpopular these days. I would have thought that Catholics would buck that trend, but apparently not.
 
Jen95 said:
Strangely, I am focused on salary when I am trying to decide whether or not to quit my job and seek another.
I am focused on salary, because there are three children dependent on me for food, water, shelter, and somewhat expensive Catholic education.
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But wearing a mask is too much to ask to preserve all that? Seriously, why?
 
So why bother to do antibody test for rubella? The presence of antibodies for rubella has always been taken as immunity.
 
puer.dei said:
Sacrifice is very unpopular these days. I would have thought that Catholics would buck that trend, but apparently not.
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Yeah, that’s been the most shocking thing to me on these boards. You’d have thought practicing Catholics would have been all over sacrificing to keep their neighbors safe. But no.
 
You’re in good company. We Protestants are way ahead of you it seems.
 
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