Many people are MISSING the boat

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  1. Internet forums are a crowd of anonymous people. Some are trolls. We range from brilliant to semi-functional. Poor catechesis is apparent - but that is the very reason for this forum! If we were all well-catecjhized, there would be no questions.
Having said that, I must point out that there are newer, IMO better catechisms. For example, the various catechisms by Fr. John Hardon, S.J. and the Libreria Editrice Vaticana, Second Edition or the witty, erudite The Belief of Catholics by Monsignor Ronald A. Knox.

Unless you are stuck in 1962, that is.
 
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Eddie18 said:
Catholic Encyclopedia & Summa Theologica (1913)

For those who think the above references are “outdated”, you are mistaken. Catholic truth does not change.
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Sorry to rain on your parade, but the Catholic Encyclopedia most definitely is outdated. As proof of this I refer you to its unfortunate pronouncement that the Holy Shroud of Turin is a medieval creation:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13762a.htm

In 1936 Pope Pius XI said that the Image on the Shroud was absolutely not man-made. The 1978 STURP investigation confirmed that pronouncement. Wilson’s 2010 book, THE SHROUD, details the Shroud’s history all the way back to AD 33. Antonacci’s 2015 book, TEST THE SHROUD, shows how the atheists at Oxford’s carbon fourteen laboratory manipulated the Shroud’s C-14 data in order to achieve their desired result when, in fact that C-14 data was proof of a miraculous event.
 
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Catholic doctrine does not change. The shroud does not pertain to doctrine.
 
Am now waiting for the claims that the Magisterium is currently teaching heresy and has been for the past 50 years :roll_eyes:
 
I think its because people are only accepting the modern ones so that’s why he mentions the older ones. The doctrines don’t change but develop, but that doesn’t mean that the old things just vanish.
 
It took the 12 time to realize that Christ was divine as well as human. It took time for the doctrine of the trinity to develop. This is technically a change, but more accurately a deepening of understanding. How many times did our Lord ask “How long have you been with Me and you still do not understand?”

We are well advised to listen to Him!

Were we all ready for our careers once out of Kindergarten? Or did our understanding of unchanging things deepen?

No difference with doctrine.
 
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Where? But I haven’t finished reading the thread yet.
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In another thread he started, he stated that all the recent popes are heretics, and that Vatican II and the CCC were heresy. He is a sedevacantist troll posing as a Catholic, quoting sedevacantist tracts. Weirdly, for all his talk of heresy, his interpretation of scripture and Church documents is consistent with Five Point Calvinism.
 
CCC 839 "Those who have not yet received the Gospel are related to the People of God in various ways."325

The relationship of the Church with the Jewish People. When she delves into her own mystery, the Church, the People of God in the New Covenant, discovers her link with the Jewish People,326 "the first to hear the Word of God."327 The Jewish faith, unlike other non-Christian religions, is already a response to God’s revelation in the Old Covenant. To the Jews “belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises; to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ”,328 "for the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable."329
 
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