Marijuana = Sinfull?

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Live_in_faith said:
The Chinese Government has laws against Chinese Catholics meeting for church. If they meet, are they not sinning by your definition?

Marijuana does not cloud your thinking like alcohol. It can help you focus your thoughts and is even prescribed by some doctors to children with ADD in California. It is non-toxic and you cannot overdose on it. You most likely voted for a President that has used it, since the past 3 have. And many good and productive Catholic use it without guilt.

The FDA has approved Marinol, which is 100% THC, for its medical benefits. The American College of Physicians thinks it should be legal. It is not against the law because it is sinful; it is against the law to protect the profits of major industries (Alcohol Industry, Pharmaceutical Industry, for profit prisons, Cotton Industry). If you know the history of it, you know that they lied to Congress about what it does, they said it makes people murderers and said physicians are for banning it, both lies. And here people are posting more misinformation about it.

If you like it but don’t want to break the Government’s laws because you see that as sinful, join NORML.ORG and help change the laws, thereby making it less sinful than drinking a beer, something my great aunt who was a Catholic Nun was fond of. Alcohol is toxic, slowly damages your liver, and in Texas the number 1 cause of teenage death. It is also a major component of violent crimes. Marijuana is less harmful than Alcohol, and any harm to society from Marijuana is not from the plant, but from the prohibition of it.

It is pure and natural, can be eaten or vaporized, and does not have to be smoked, which is not good for your lungs. People who are opposed to it have never tried it. Would you take advice from a person telling you that lobster taste terrible after you found out they have never actually tried lobster themselves, but where told by the Government that is taste terrible? Have blind faith in God, not Governments.
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I didn’t see you first post good friend. i’ve tried it several times with friends before I became a christian and know it’s effects. It takes one out of reality for one thing. God wants us in reality. But like I say I don’t think it wise to argue in this case. Prayer and penance is what we need, A lot of sacrifice and suffering and self denial makes one holy, not feeling relaxed and easy minded and high. The cross is it. Pray about it.
 
It seems to me having seen the posted question keep popping up for so long that maybe there are those that not only want an answer as to whether it’s moral or not but perhaps they are addicted or worry they may become so or what will happen if their addicted, will it destroy lives or how do I get help. I do have a lot of experience that can help these people. I have a very addictive personality. This does not mean I’m extremely likeable it simply means I easily get addicted to all those things one can. So I have to be very careful. People like me are virtually always pleasure seekers too so it’s important I struggle against this. My whole family is riddled with alcoholics, drug addicts or substance abusers, gambling addicts, smokers etc etc. I grew up in an alcoholic home and it wasn’t very pleasant. I’m sure it’s the same for people who were raised by drug addicts and so on. I am also a very compulsive person, this is my personality. This means whatever I set my mind to do that I will do full bore. There is no half way or in between for me- it’s all or nothing. I was told this is not a bad thing it just means I have to always set my mind to do that which is good. I try to be addicted to that which is good and will please God and to set my mind on that which is good. I don’t always succeed but I have no choice. Either I become a saint or go to the lowest places in hell. No in between. I don’t like to talk about myself but I’m just trying to give some background first.
I have been to many meetings and listened to alcoholics, drug addicts and gambling addicts tell their stories. I’ve heard a few thousand such stories. I’ve read some of the literature and learnt a bit about the whole thing. It may be that what I say will help someone. That is the only reason I write this.
When you are suffering from an addiction such as alcohol or marijuana, drugs etc it becomes like a mistress to you. It’s everything and it’s like heaven. You absolutely cannot understand how you could live without it. It becomes your whole world. You are not living in reality. You cannot see the pain and suffering it causes those around you. You will often think you’re the most wonderful person who ever lived and think everyone else believes the same thing. But it’s a delusion. You will do anything to keep your drug of choice and fight anyone who opposes it and even sacrifice your family to keep it. There is no life worth living without this you will say. Why don’t others understand this. Like I say it’s your heaven. But it will turn on you. The magic it gives will go. What do you do if you find yourself in this misery that leads so many to despair? Is there a way out? Can I avoid this?
There is an answer given to humanity by God himself. It’s the twelve step programs. You cannot turn to your faith or religion for a cure. You must get to an AA ( Alcoholics Anonymous ) meeting , NA ( Narcotics Anonymous ) meeting, GA ( Gamblers Anonymous ) meeting or any of the 12 step programs. These are where God wants you to be , he is in there and working very powerfully and he will not only help you but he will cure you.
The only requirement for membership is a desire to get well. No money etc. No one wants anything from you except the opportunity to help you. The people there will do heroic deeds to help you if you ask or let them. There is no judgmentalism in these rooms. The way you get well is to go, then you just have to be honest. Honesty is the foundation and without it you cannot be cured. You will find a home there and people who will not judge or condemn you because they have been through the same thing and understand you. They only want to help you.
Find an older member who has been sober and sane for a long time and ask him to sponsor you and take you through the 12 steps. Look around a bit before you choose. Do all the suggested things too. Get a home group- one you go to and maybe help at each week. And when you listen to the stories listen to what is similar, not what is different because everyone has a different story. The thing that you need to break an addiction like drugs or alcohol and many others is moral psychology. This is a miracle God will work in your mind to twist it so it’s right again. No doctor can do this miracle. Some people are well from the first meeting and some take many years but most don’t get it and die in the depths of madness and despair eventually. It’s a spiritual program and not a religious program. It’s non denominational and everyone is welcome. The sole purpose of it’s members is to get well and help others get well. That is all. You may find that because you’re very sick and have a very distorted view of God and whatever religion you are that you may be best to scrap everything you believe or know including your faith and start to learn anew. This is only necessary for the few who are the most sick and need it. You cannot make such a big decision without the help and guidance of those who have been sober and sane with their lives going well for a very long time. Put yourself completely in the hands of the older sober members and God will begin to work very powerfully in your life.
I hope some find this useful.
 
I think what you need to keep in mind is we are talking about marijuana, which is less addictive than beer and far less harmful to your health. I will not stick up for drugs in general, but if it was not for powerful lobbiest groups that have a financial interest in marijuana prohibition, it would be legal and as sinful as coffee.
 
Live_in_faith said:
I think what you need to keep in mind is we are talking about marijuana, which is less addictive than beer and far less harmful to your health. I will not stick up for drugs in general, but if it was not for powerful lobbiest groups that have a financial interest in marijuana prohibition, it would be legal and as sinful as coffee.
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sit in at a few NA meetings and see and hear what can happen for yourself. it’s an eye opener where this path can lead.
 
John_Russell_Jr said:
It is never a sin to break mans laws, only Gods laws. The reason why it is ok to drink alcohol and not ok to smoke pot is that alcohol is designed to gladden the heart but pot is designed to bomb you out. Alcohol is like a mild sedative to help us relax and unwind. Pot bombs out the mind. If you smoke pot for recreational purposes then it’s sinful. Pot is not designed to have the same effect as alcohol.They are different. Much of the pot around is mixed with other drugs like speed too to give you a bigger buzz and this makes it more addictive. You need to be careful with pot. Pot is very bad for your health too, but a little alcohol is good for your health.
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Ok been a while since i have read this, but here goes…
How is it that one hit of pot “Bombs you out”? I don’t think that it does. I would contend that a hit of pot is like drinking a glass of wine. Almost the same feeling too really. And alcohol can be just of full of impurtities as pot when it’s processed I’m sure. Pot isn’t designed to “bomb you out”. One can overdue it and smoke too much and become “stoned” or “bombed out” truely.
 
brotherinsearch said:
Ok been a while since i have read this, but here goes…
How is it that one hit of pot “Bombs you out”? I don’t think that it does. I would contend that a hit of pot is like drinking a glass of wine. Almost the same feeling too really. And alcohol can be just of full of impurtities as pot when it’s processed I’m sure. Pot isn’t designed to “bomb you out”. One can overdue it and smoke too much and become “stoned” or “bombed out” truely.
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Hi there, It’s good you ask questions like this. Most people don’t ask questions or search for truth - at least not in the places they should or where they will find it. First let me provide some info-

From a normal dictionary-
dictionary.reference.com/browse/marijuana
dictionary.reference.com/browse/drug

Read all the top results on this gogle search please google.com.au/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=is+marijuana+a+drug&meta=lr%3D

Try reading articles on the NA website and spend time to learn na.org/reports/pubarchives.htm#NA_Way_2003

From the catechism-
**2291 **The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health and life. Their use, except on strictly therapeutic grounds, is a grave offense. Clandestine production of and trafficking in drugs are scandalous practices. They constitute direct co-operation in evil, since they encourage people to practices gravely contrary to the moral law.

**2211 **The political community has a duty to honor the family, to assist it, and to ensure especially:
  • the freedom to establish a family, have children, and bring them up in keeping with the family’s own moral and religious convictions;
  • the protection of the stability of the marriage bond and the institution of the family;
  • the freedom to profess one’s faith, to hand it on, and raise one’s children in it, with the necessary means and institutions;
  • the right to private property, to free enterprise, to obtain work and housing, and the right to emigrate;
  • in keeping with the country’s institutions, the right to medical care, assistance for the aged, and family benefits;
  • the protection of security and health, especially with respect to dangers like drugs, pornography, alcoholism, etc.; - the freedom to form associations with other families and so to have representation before civil authority.
From the catholic dictionary-
DRUG ABUSE, MORALITY OF. The use of any drug, although medicinal in original purpose, has grave moral implications, to the degree that it seriously affects a person’s social adjustment, physical or mental health.

Popes warning about drugs and much, much useful stuff for all. Take time to read please-
papalencyclicals.net/Paul06/p6devil.htm
papalencyclicals.net/Paul06/p6oct.htm

I know it’s plenty of reading. But if you are concerned with knowing the morality and potential serious damage this drug can do then please read a lot. It does matter when we come before our Lord as to how much effort we make to learn right from wrong. If we make no effort and do wrong we may not be excused. We all have to educate ourselves. Or we really can perish in the end.

I hope this helps. God bless.
 
brotherinsearch said:
Ok been a while since i have read this, but here goes…
How is it that one hit of pot “Bombs you out”?
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Maybe not - but who stops at one hit?

One cigarette won’t do much, either, but nobody ever smokes only one - smokers get lung troubles and bad coughs because they smoke several cigarettes every day.
 
jmcrae said:
Maybe not - but who stops at one hit?

One cigarette won’t do much, either, but nobody ever smokes only one - smokers get lung troubles and bad coughs because they smoke several cigarettes every day.
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Hmmm. Just before I answer this I recieved a very insightfull reply and I am going to stop smoking marijuana with the lords help.

To your statement, I would say, and who stops at one drink? The passage do not be drunk on wine but be filled with the holy spirit is what comes to mind here. That says to me, don’t do things in excess that you become useless by the holy spirit. Your temple rendered non-functioning for the lords use. I HAVE taken one hit many times before much like I’ve drank one glass of wine before. I unwind with it and relax after the day.

I’ve also abused it much like I have alcohol in the past and been drunk or stoned out too many times before too.

I believe self-dicipline/self-control are always to be exercised 24 hours a day with whatever you are doing. We are not to let the flesh run rampant away from Christ’s care and reach. Over indulgence of any luxury is sinful behavior i.e. some of the seven deadly sins, gluttony, greed, vanity…

But that wasn’t my questioning
Mine was smoking a toke of marijuana as opposed to drinking a glass of wine.
I think alot of all this examination boils down to what you are using a drug for. Escape from reality doesn’t fall under the catagory of acceptable gracefull behavior. Gladdening of the heart is what I’m after. So wine it will be.
 
John_Russell_Jr said:
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I know it’s plenty of reading. But if you are concerned with knowing the morality and potential serious damage this drug can do then please read a lot. It does matter when we come before our Lord as to how much effort we make to learn right from wrong. If we make no effort and do wrong we may not be excused. We all have to educate ourselves. Or we really can perish in the end.

I hope this helps. God bless.
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Thanks for your letter. I talked to a mutual smoking friend of mine who is a pretty strong christian (but not catholic) and he put up smoking too. I am going to try to embrace not smoking dope further. I am curious as to your understanding of alcohol and how this “drug” has been put on an Okayed pedistol by Christ himself and what makes it an Ok thing to do recreationally as opposed to any other drug? That is the part I find toughest to wrap my mind around I think. It would squelch a lot of questioning and greyness if it were just no recreational drug use whatsoever in the bible?
 
brotherinsearch said:
Thanks for your letter. I talked to a mutual smoking friend of mine who is a pretty strong christian (but not catholic) and he put up smoking too. I am going to try to embrace not smoking dope further. I am curious as to your understanding of alcohol and how this “drug” has been put on an Okayed pedistol by Christ himself and what makes it an Ok thing to do recreationally as opposed to any other drug? That is the part I find toughest to wrap my mind around I think. It would squelch a lot of questioning and greyness if it were just no recreational drug use whatsoever in the bible?
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Dear friend

You ask a good question with what’s the difference between alcohol and weed. i will reply soon. I need to think a bit first. I have been to very many AA meetings etc and studied the subject so I should be able to offer some (name removed by moderator)ut. But there is a big difference. I’ll try to explain later.
God bless:) 👍
 
Dear Brotherinsearch and ALL ( see several posts for answers please )
SORRY FOR THE SLOW REPLY. hERE IS SOME INFO YOU CAN LOOK INTO FOR THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALCOHOL AND MARIJUANA.
Sorry caps lock was on.

**ALCOHOLISM, MORALITY OF. **Habitual excessive consumption of alcoholic beverages. It is characterized by an abnormal and persistent desire to drink ethyl alcohol to excess; and also describes the condition that results from such drinking. Chronic alcoholism may have begun as a moral weakness or disorder, but in time it produces psychic instability. It causes psychological and structural changes. One of its most serious effects is to lessen the willpower that is needed to stop. In time all higher faculties are impaired and, not infrequently, undoubted insanity results. Overcoming alcoholism is a major social problem in many societies. Treatment is effective only if a person is sufficiently motivated to practice total abstinence.

DRUNKENNESS. Overindulgence in alcoholic beverages. On Catholic moral principles, the degree of sinfulness in excessive drinking depends on how this excess is known to affect this particular drinker. It is a grave matter if it is foreseen that this drink will cause one to lose the use of one’s senses or will put one in such a state that he or she is no longer able to distinguish right from wrong. It is a venial matter if one has reason for believing that this amount of drinking, though actually excessive, will neither deprive one of the use of one’s senses or of the power to distinguish right from wrong.
DRUG ABUSE, MORALITY OF. The use of any drug, although medicinal in original purpose, has grave moral implications, to the degree that it seriously affects a person’s social adjustment, physical or mental health.
marijuana - 6 dictionary results
.ma⋅ri⋅jua⋅na
 /ˌmærhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngəˈwɑhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngnə/ cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif Show Spelled Pronunciation [mar-uh-wah-nuh] cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif Show IPA –noun 1.hemp (def. 1). 2.the dried leaves and female flowers of the hemp plant, used in cigarette form as a narcotic or hallucinogen.

Also, ma⋅ri⋅hua⋅na.

**Origin: **
1890–95, Americanism; < MexSp marihuana, mariguana; traditional assoc. with the personal name María Juana is prob. a folk etym.http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png

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mar·i·jua·na also mar·i·hua·na (mār’ə-wä’nə) Pronunciation Key

n.The cannabis plant.

  1. *]A preparation made from the dried flower clusters and leaves of the cannabis plant, usually smoked or eaten to induce euphoria.

    [Spanish marihuana.]

    marijuana
    noun1. a strong-smelling plant from whose dried leaves a number of euphoriant and hallucinogenic drugs are prepared 2. the most commonly used illicit drug; considered a soft drug, it consists of the dried leaves of the hemp plant; smoked or chewed for euphoric effect [syn: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cannabis”]cannabis]

    marijuana
    1918, alt. by influence of Sp. proper name Maria Juana “Mary Jane” from mariguan (1894), from Mex.Sp. marihuana, of uncertain origin.
    “Marijuana … makes you sensitive. Courtesy has a great deal to do with being sensitive. Unfortunately marijuana makes you the kind of sensitive where you insist on everyone listening to the drum solo in Iron Butterfly’s ‘In-a-Gadda-Da-Vida’ fifty or sixty times.” [P.J. O’Rourke, “Modern Manners,” 1983]
    Main Entry: mar·i·jua·na
    Variant: also mar·i·hua·na /"mar-&-'wän-& also -'hwän-/
    Function:noun
    1 : 1HEMP
    2 : the dried leaves and flowering tops of the pistillate hempplant that yield THC and are sometimes smoked in cigarettes for their intoxicating effect —compare BHANG, CANNABIS, HASHISH
 
marijuana mar·i·jua·na or mar·i·hua·na (mār’ə-wä’nə)

n.

  1. *]The cannabis plant.
    *]A preparation made from the dried flower clusters and leaves of the cannabis plant, usually smoked or eaten to induce euphoria

    drug

    1   /drʌg/ cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif Show Spelled Pronunciation [druhg] cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif Show IPA noun, verb, drugged, drug⋅ging. **–noun **1.Pharmacology. a chemical substance used in the treatment, cure, prevention, or diagnosis of disease or used to otherwise enhance physical or mental well-being.2.(in federal law) a.any substance recognized in the official pharmacopoeia or formulary of the nation.b.any substance intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease in humans or other animals.c.any article, other than food, intended to affect the structure or any function of the body of humans or other animals.d.any substance intended for use as a component of such a drug, but not a device or a part of a device.3.a habit-forming medicinal or illicit substance, esp. a narcotic.4.**drugs, **a.chemical substances prepared and sold as pharmaceutical items, either by prescription or over the counter.b.personal hygienic items sold in a drugstore, as toothpaste, mouthwash, etc.5.Obsolete. any ingredient used in chemistry, pharmacy, dyeing, or the like.
    **–verb (used with object) **6.to administer a medicinal drug to.7.to stupefy or poison with a drug.8.to mix (food or drink) with a drug, esp. a stupefying, narcotic, or poisonous drug.9.to administer anything nauseous to.
    —Verb phrase 10.**drug up, **to take a narcotic drug: *The addict prowled about for a place to drug up. *—Idiom 11.**drug on the market, **a commodity that is overabundant or in excess of demand in the market. Also, drug in the market.
    **Origin: **
    1300–50; ME drogges (pl.) < MF drogue, of obscure orig.http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png
    Drug
    drug     (drŭg) Pronunciation Key

    n.

    1. *]

      1. *]A substance used in the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of a disease or as a component of a medication.
        *]Such a substance as recognized or defined by the U.S. Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.

        *]A chemical substance, such as a narcotic or hallucinogen, that affects the central nervous system, causing changes in behavior and often addiction.
        *]Obsolete A chemical or dye.

        tr.v. drugged, drug·ging, drugs

        1. *]To administer a drug to.
          *]To poison or mix (food or drink) with a drug.
          *]To stupefy or dull with or as if with a drug: drugged with sleep.

          [Middle English drogge, from Old French drogue, *drug, perhaps from Middle Dutch droge (vate), dry (cases), pl. of drog, dry.]

          Drug, v. i. [See 1st http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Drudge”]Drudge.] To drudge; to toil laboriously. [Obs.] “To drugge and draw.” --Chaucer.
          Drug
          Drug, n. A drudge (?). --Shak. (Timon iv. 3, 253).
          Drug
          Drug, n. [F. drogue, prob. fr. D. droog; akin to E. dry; thus orig., dry substance, hers, plants, or wares. See http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Dry”]Dry.]
          1. Any animal, vegetable, or mineral substance used in the composition of medicines; any stuff used in dyeing or in chemical operations.
            Whence merchants bring
            Their spicy drugs. --Milton.
          2. Any commodity that lies on hand, or is not salable; an article of slow sale, or in no demand. “But sermons are mere drugs.” --Fielding.
            And virtue shall a drug become. --Dryden.
            Drug
            Drug, v. i. [imp. & p. p. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Drugged”]Drugged; p. pr. & vb. n. Drugging.] [Cf. F. droguer.] To prescribe or administer drugs or medicines. --B. Jonson.
            Drug
            Drug, v. t. 1. To affect or season with drugs or ingredients; esp., to stupefy by a narcotic drug. Also Fig.
            The laboring masses . . . [were] drugged into brutish good humor by a vast system of public spectacles. --C. Kingsley.
            Drug thy memories, lest thou learn it. --Tennyson.
          3. To tincture with something offensive or injurious.
            Drugged as oft, With hatefullest disrelish writhed their jaws. --Milton.
          4. To dose to excess with, or as with, drugs.
            With pleasure drugged, he almost longed for woe. --Byron.
            drug
            noun1. a substance that is used as a medicine or narcotic
            verb1. administer a drug to; “They drugged the kidnapped tourist” 2. use recreational drugs
 
drug
1327, from O.Fr. drouge, perhaps from M.Du. or M.L.G. droge-vate “dry barrels,” with first element mistaken as word for the contents (see dry goods), or because medicines mostly consisted of dried herbs. Application to “narcotics and opiates” is 1883, though association with “poisons” is 1500s. The verb is from 1605. Druggie first recorded 1968. Drug-store is 1810; drug-store cowboy is 1925, Amer.Eng. slang, originally one who dressed like a Westerner but obviously wasn’t. To be a drug on or in the market (c.1661) is of doubtful connection and may be a different word, perhaps drag, which was sometimes drug c.1240-1800.

Main Entry: 1drug
Pronunciation: 'dr&g
Function: noun
1 a : a substance used as a medication or in the preparation of medication b according to the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (1) : a substance recognized in an official pharmacopoeia or formulary (2) : a substance intended for use in thediagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease (3) : a substance other than food intended to affect the structure or function of the body (4) : a substance intendedfor use as a component of a medicine but not a device or a component, part, or accessory of a device
2 : something and often an illicit substance that causes addiction,habituation, or a marked change in consciousness
Main Entry: 2drug
Function: verb
Inflected Forms: drugged; drug·ging
transitive senses
1 : to affect with a drug;especially : to stupefy by a narcotic drug
2 : to administer a drug to drug intransitive senses
: to take drugs for narcotic effect

drug (drŭg)

n.

  1. *]A substance used in the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of a disease or as a component of a medication.
    *]Such a substance as recognized or defined by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.
    *]A chemical substance, such as a narcotic or hallucinogen, that affects the central nervous system, causing changes in behavior and often addiction.

    v. drugged, drug·ging, drugs

    1. *]To administer a drug, especially in an overly large quantity, to an individual.
      *]To stupefy or dull with or as if with a drug; to narcotize.

      drug (drŭg) Pronunciation Key

      1. *]A chemical substance, especially one prescribed by a medical provider, that is used in the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of a condition or disease. Drugs are prescribed for a limited amount of time, as for an acute infection, or on a regular basis for chronic disorders, such as hypertension.
        *]A chemical substance such as a narcotic or a hallucinogen that affects the central nervous system and is used recreationally for perceived desirable effects on personality, perception, or behavior. Many recreational drugs are used illicitly and can be addictive

        al⋅co⋅hol

        /ˈælhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngkəˌhɔl, -ˌhɒl/ cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif Show Spelled Pronunciation al-kuh-hawl, -hol] cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif Show IPA **–noun **1.Also called ethyl alcohol, grain alcohol, ethanol, fermentation alcohol. a colorless, limpid, volatile, flammable, water-miscible liquid, C2H5OH, having an etherlike odor and pungent, burning taste, the intoxicating principle of fermented liquors, produced by yeast fermentation of certain carbohydrates, as grains, molasses, starch, or sugar, or obtained synthetically by hydration of ethylene or as a by-product of certain hydrocarbon syntheses: used chiefly as a solvent in the extraction of specific substances, in beverages, medicines, organic synthesis, lotions, tonics, colognes, rubbing compounds, as an automobile radiator antifreeze, and as a rocket fuel. Compare denatured alcohol, methyl alcohol.2.whiskey, gin, vodka, or any other intoxicating liquor containing this liquid.3.Chemistry. any of a class of chemical compounds having the general formula ROH, where R represents an alkyl group and –OH a hydroxyl group, as in methyl alcohol, CH3OH, or ethyl alcohol, C2H5OH.

        **Origin: **
        1535–45; < NL < ML < Ar al-kuḥl the powdered antimony, the distillatehttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png

        colorless volatile flammable liquid, C2H5OH, synthesized or obtained by fermentation of sugars and starches and widely used, either pure or denatured, as a solvent and in drugs, cleaning solutions, explosives, and intoxicating beverages. Also called ethanol, ethyl alcohol, grain alcohol.
 

  1. *]Intoxicating liquor containing alcohol.
    *]Any of a series of hydroxyl compounds, the simplest of which are derived from saturated hydrocarbons, have the general formula CnH2n+1OH, and include ethanol and methanol.

    [Medieval Latin, fine metallic powder, especially of antimony, from Arabic al-kuḥl : al-, the + kuḥl, powder of antimony; see kḥl in Semitic roots.]
    Word History: The al- in alcohol may alert some readers to the fact that this is a word of Arabic descent, as is the case with algebra and alkali, al- being the Arabic definite article corresponding to the in English. The origin of -cohol is less obvious, however. Its Arabic ancestor was kuḥl, a fine powder most often made from antimony and used by women to darken their eyelids; in fact, kuḥl has given us the word kohl for such a preparation. Arabic chemists came to use al-kuḥl to mean “any fine powder produced in a number of ways, including the process of heating a substance to a gaseous state and then recooling it.” The English word alcohol, derived through Medieval Latin from Arabic, is first recorded in 1543 in this sense. Arabic chemists also used al-kuḥl to refer to other substances such as essences that were obtained by distillation, a sense first found for English alcohol in 1672. One of these distilled essences, known as “alcohol of wine,” is the constituent of fermented liquors that causes intoxication. This essence took over the term alcohol for itself, whence it has come to refer to the liquor that contains this essence as well as to a class of chemical compounds such as methanol.
    The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
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    Alcohol
    Al"co    hol\ ([a^]l"k-o]*h[o^]l), n. [Cf. F. alcool, formerly written alcohol, Sp. alcohol alcohol, antimony, galena, OSp. alcofol; all fr. Ar. al-kohl a powder of antimony or galena, to paint the eyebrows with. The name was afterwards applied, on account of the fineness of this powder, to highly rectified spirits, a signification unknown in Arabia. The Sp. word has both meanings. Cf. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Alquifou”]Alquifou.]
    1. An impalpable powder. [Obs.]
    2. The fluid essence or pure spirit obtained by distillation. [Obs.] --Boyle.
    3. Pure spirit of wine; pure or highly rectified spirit (called also ethyl alcohol); the spirituous or intoxicating element of fermented or distilled liquors, or more loosely a liquid containing it in considerable quantity. It is extracted by simple distillation from various vegetable juices and infusions of a saccharine nature, which have undergone vinous fermentation.
      Note: As used in the U. S. “Pharmacop[oe]ia,” alcohol contains 91 per cent by weight of ethyl alcohol and 9 per cent of water; and diluted alcohol (proof spirit) contains 45.5 per cent by weight of ethyl alcohol and 54.5 per cent of water.
    4. (Organic Chem.) A class of compounds analogous to vinic alcohol in constitution. Chemically speaking, they are hydroxides of certain organic radicals; as, the radical ethyl forms common or ethyl alcohol (C2H5.OH); methyl forms methyl alcohol (CH3.OH) or wood spirit; amyl forms amyl alcohol (C5H11.OH) or fusel oil, etc.
    alcohol
    noun1. a liquor or brew containing alcohol as the active agent; “alcohol (or drink) ruined him” 2. any of a series of volatile hydroxyl compounds that are made from hydrocarbons by distillation

    alcohol
    1543, “fine powder produced by sublimination,” from M.L. alcohol “powdered ore of antimony,” from Arabic al-kuhul “kohl,” the fine metallic powder used to darken the eyelids, from kahala “to stain, paint.” The al- is the Arabic definite article, “the.” “Powdered cosmetic” was the earliest sense in Eng.; definition broadened 1672 to “any subliminated substance, the pure spirit of anything.” Modern sense of “intoxicating ingredient in strong liquor” is first recorded 1753, short for alcohol of wine, which was extended to “the intoxicating element in fermented liquors.” In organic chemistry, the word was extended 1850 to the class of compounds of the same type as this. Alcoholism “disease of alcohol addiction” is from 1852; alcoholic “one who is addicted to drinking in excess” is from 1891. Alcoholics Anonymous founded 1935 in Akron, Ohio, U.S. Alky is first recorded 1844 as a slang shortening of “alcoholic liquor;” 1960 in the sense of “a drunkard.”

    Main Entry: al·co·hol
    Pronunciation: 'al-k&-"hol
    Function: noun
    1 a : ethanol especially when considered as the intoxicating agentin fermented and distilled liquors b : drink (as whiskey or beer) containing ethanol c : a mixture of ethanol and water that is usually 95 percent ethanol
    2 : any of various compounds that are analogous to ethanol in constitution and that are hydroxyl derivatives of hydrocarbons

    alcohol al·co·hol (āl’kə-hôl’)
 
n.

  1. ]Any of a series of hydroxyl compounds derived from saturated hydrocarbons, including ethanol and methanol.
    ]A colorless, volatile, flammable liquid synthesized or obtained by fermentation of sugars and starches and widely used, either pure or denatured, as a solvent and in drugs. Also called ethanol    , ethyl alcohol.**
    *]Intoxicating liquor containing alcohol.

    alcohol (āl’kə-hôl’) Pronunciation Key

    1. *]Any of a large number of colorless, flammable organic compounds that contain the hydroxyl group (OH) and that form esters with acids. Alcohols are used as solvents and for manufacturing dyes, perfumes, and pharmaceuticals. Simple alcohols, such as methanol and ethanol, are water-soluble liquids, while more complex ones, like cetyl alcohol, are waxy solids. Names of alcohols usually end in -ol.

      Marijuana is very different to alcohol largely because of the following 2 reasons. But not exclusively-
      nar⋅cot⋅ic

      /nɑrˈkɒthttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngɪk/ cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif Show Spelled Pronunciation [nahr-**kot-ik] cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif Show IPA **–noun **1.any of a class of substances that blunt the senses, as opium, morphine, belladonna, and alcohol, that in large quantities produce euphoria, stupor, or coma, that when used constantly can cause habituation or addiction, and that are used in medicine to relieve pain, cause sedation, and induce sleep.2.anything that exercises a soothing or numbing effect or influence: *Television is a narcotic for many people. *
      **–adjective **3.of or having the power to produce narcosis, as a drug.4.pertaining to or of the nature of narcosis.5.of or pertaining to narcotics or their use.6.used by, or in the treatment of, narcotic addicts.

      **Origin: **
      1350–1400; ME narcotik(e) (n.) < ML narcōticum < Gk narkōtikón, n. use of neut. of narkōtikós benumbing, equiv. to narkō- (var. s. of narkoûn to benumb; see narco- ) + -tikos -tic http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png

      Related forms:
      **nar⋅cot⋅i⋅cal⋅ly, adverb **
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      n.

      1. *]An addictive drug, such as opium, that reduces pain, alters mood and behavior, and usually induces sleep or stupor. Natural and synthetic narcotics are used in medicine to control pain.
        *]A soothing, numbing agent or thing: “There was the blessed narcotic of bridge, at the Colony or at the home of friends” (Louis Auchincloss).
 
adj.

  1. *]Inducing sleep or stupor; causing narcosis.
    *]Of or relating to narcotics, their effects, or their use.
    *]Of, relating to, or intended for one addicted to a narcotic.

    [Middle English narcotik, from Old French narcotique, from Medieval Latin narcōticum, from Greek narkōtikon, from neuter of narkōtikos, *numbing, from narkōsis, a numbing; see narcosis.]

    nar·cot’i·cal·ly* adv.*

    Narcotic
    Nar*cot"ic, a. [F. narcotique, Gr. ???, fr. ??? to benumb, na`rkh numbness, torpor.] (Med.) Having the properties of a narcotic; operating as a narcotic. – Narcot"icness, n.

    Narcotic
    Nar*cot"ic, n. (Med.) A drug which, in medicinal doses, generally allays morbid susceptibility, relieves pain, and produces sleep; but which, in poisonous doses, produces stupor, coma, or convulsions, and, when given in sufficient quantity, causes death. The best examples are opium (with morphine), belladonna (with atropine), and conium.
    Nercotykes and opye (opium) of Thebes. --Chaucer.

    narcotic
    adjective1. of or relating to or designating narcotics; “narcotic addicts”; “narcotic stupor” 2. inducing stupor or narcosis; “narcotic drugs” 3. inducing mental lethargy; “a narcotic speech”
    noun1. a drug that produces numbness or stupor; often taken for pleasure or to reduce pain; extensive use can lead to addiction

    narcotic (n.)
    c.1385, from O.Fr. adj. narcotique (1314), from M.L. narcoticum, from Gk. narkotikon, neut. of narkotikos “making stiff or numb,” from narkotos, verbal adj. of narcoun “to benumb, make unconscious,” from narke “numbness, stupor, cramp,” perhaps from PIE base *(s)nerq- “to turn, twist.” Sense of “any illegal drug” first recorded 1926, Amer.Eng. The adj. is first attested 1601.

    Main Entry: 1nar·cot·ic
    Pronunciation: när-'kät-ik
    Function: noun
    1 : a drug (as opium) that in moderate dosesdulls the senses, relieves pain, and induces profound sleep but in excessive doses causes stupor, coma, or convulsions
    2 : a drug (as marijuana or LSD) subject to restrictionsimilar to that of addictive narcotics whether in fact physiologically addictive and narcotic or not

    Main Entry: 2narcotic
    Function: adjective
    1 : having the properties of or yielding a narcotic
    2 : of, induced by, or concernedwith narcotics
    3 : of, involving, or intended for narcotic addicts

    narcotic nar·cot·ic (när-kŏt’ĭk)
    n.
    A drug derived from opium or opiumlike compounds, with potent analgesic effects associated with significant alteration of mood and behavior, and with the potential for dependence and tolerance following repeated administration. adj.
    Capable of inducing a state of stuporous analgesia.

    hal⋅lu⋅ci⋅no⋅gen

    n. A substance that induces hallucination.
 
hallucin(ation) + -gen.]
hal·lu’ci·no·gen’ic (-jěn’ĭk)* adj.*

hallucinogen
nouna psychoactive drug that induces hallucinations or altered sensory experiences
A substance or drug that can cause hallucinations.
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Main Entry: hal·lu·ci·no·gen
Pronunciation: h&-'lüs-&n-&-j&n
Function: noun
: a substance andespecially a drug that induces hallucinations
hallucinogen hal·lu·ci·no·gen (hə-l&oomacr;'sə-nə-jən)
n.
A substance that induces hallucination. hal·lu’cin·o·gen’ic (-jěn’ĭk) adj.

hallucinogen (hə-lhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/ahsd/gif/oomacr.gif’sə-nə-jən) Pronunciation Key
A drug or chemical that causes a person to have hallucinations. Mescaline, LSD, and psilocybin are hallucinogens.

Let me know if you want more info as I can see theirs a powerful lobby group around the world trying to legalise marijuana.

NA story ( Narcotics Anonymous ) speaker speaks-

As a result of being a member of Narcotics Anonymous, I have received many gifts above and beyond the promised “recovery from active addiction” that our literature describes. I am more honest, hopeful, courageous, humble, responsible, patient, loving, and serene than I was when I was using. I also have been married for twenty-two years to another member of our fellowship; I have a thirteen-year-old daughter; I had a loving relationship with my parents until their deaths; I have not been arrested for thirty-three years; I have a good-paying job; I pay my taxes early; and I vote in every election.
All in all, most people would say that I am a responsible and productive member of society. Every now and then I get reminded that, although I am proud to be a recovering addict, society may not view me in this way. In early recovery, I used to give blood on a regular basis. Then one day I was given a questionnaire, and one of the questions was “Have you ever used drugs intravenously?” Being honest, I marked “yes,” and I was informed that they had no need for my blood. Even though, by the grace of God, I am HIV-negative and do not have hepatitis C, they still do not want my blood—but I still offer it every couple of years, just in case.
More recently, I applied for a volunteer position. The application process included an intensive investigation of my background and a polygraph test regarding any matters of concern to my background screeners. It turned out that the fact that I have been clean for twenty-five years did not overcome the fact that I had three felony arrests when I was seventeen years old.
When the people who wanted me for the volunteer position tried to help me overcome this obstacle, they asked me how many times I had smoked marijuana, used LSD, snorted methamphetamine, etc. As I answered each question honestly, I could feel that they did not want someone with my background volunteering for their organization. I was disappointed, hurt, and acutely aware that the tired old lie “once an addict, always an addict” is not dead in the minds of many in society.
These experiences have made me appreciate the love and acceptance NA offers me. It gives me membership that is mine as long as I have the desire to stay clean. It gives me a place to be of service, so I can keep what I have by giving it away. And finally, it gives me the confidence that, some day, if it be God’s will, I will be able to donate blood again and be a volunteer, even though I was arrested when I was seventeen years old.
The end of this story is that I allowed myself to feel sad for a couple days and to feel a pang of hurt when my friends talked about their training in this volunteer organization, but I have used the Serenity Prayer to show me the way back to peace of mind.
While I cannot make that organization accept me as a volunteer, I can still volunteer in other ways to help the same people. I have had a surge of energy, and the skills I learned in the service structure of NA are being put to work to help another group that is suffering. I may always bump into walls, reminding me that my rights of membership in society have been limited because of my addiction, but this same addiction has opened the doors to NA membership and all the blessings I have received here.
 
John_Russell_Jr said:
sit in at a few NA meetings and see and hear what can happen for yourself. it’s an eye opener where this path can lead.
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I have seen where it can lead as well…
It led to being President for 3 marijuana users and to holding the world record for Olympic Gold Medals for another toker. Here in Texas, the number one cause of teen death is alcohol. So you really think weed is bad, there are so many things more destructive, things like greed and envy. To focus on marijuana as if is an evil plant, is misguided and a waste of Internet posting resources. Funny how pot heads not only are more likely to look like Jesus, but are more likely to act in his peaceful ways as well. Think about it.
 
Live_in_faith said:
I have seen where it can lead as well…
It led to being President for 3 marijuana users and to holding the world record for Olympic Gold Medals for another toker. Here in Texas, the number one cause of teen death is alcohol. So you really think weed is bad, there are so many things more destructive, things like greed and envy. To focus on marijuana as if is an evil plant, is misguided and a waste of Internet posting resources. Funny how pot heads not only are more likely to look like Jesus, but are more likely to act in his peaceful ways as well. Think about it.
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My dear friend
if i knew i wouldn’t burn i’d light up today. Forget about other drugs and just focus on the one perhaps. I’m not saying which is worse. I’m just taking an objective look at the question.
God bless you:)
 
John_Russell_Jr said:
My dear friend
if i knew i wouldn’t burn i’d light up today. Forget about other drugs and just focus on the one perhaps. I’m not saying which is worse. I’m just taking an objective look at the question.
God bless you:)
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If you believe the Catholic ideology is that eating a herb is a sin, then I question where it is written in the bible. It may be the ideology of some people, but it is not the decree of God. Your negative experience does not seem to be just from marijuana, but from more harder drugs. Please do not assume that marijuana is a path to other drugs for other people. The prohibition of marijuana is what is evil, not the plant. A prohibition seeded in greed is not from God, just from Man. It appears that they have done well to convience you to turn away from a plant they can not profit from. In Corporate America We Trust.

I respect you situation, appearently you have an addictive personality, if you believe it is a sin for yourself, then by all means resist. I believe that God knows what is in your heart, and by that you will be judged. If Mother Teresa was smoking a joint every night after feeding the hungry, I doubt she would burn in Hell. If that is the logic of your God, then we pray to different Gods. There is only one God, so only after we die will we know if what men have taught you was the word of God, or the word of Man.

In either case, God be with you, and reguardless, marijuana is not right for you and you should continue to avoid it. p
 
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