Married Priests: From West to East

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Check your history - The Apostle St. Peter (Pope), St. Philip the Evangelist, St Gregory of Nyssa (a bishop), St. Demetrius the Vine Dresser (Patriarch) - all Saints, all married
Apart from the Rock upon which all the others stand - who was probably not married when he took this role otherwise his wife would have been mentioned - it is interesting that these other saints were married. Where did you find this information? This goes to prove how valid the document I linked to really is, in that we should all hold to our respective church traditions, codes of practice etc…whether Roman or eastern churches. Until we are told otherwise.
 
Actually, a ruling has been made that they are not required to abstain from conjugal relations with their wives. I’ve seen it posted on this forum by one of the deacons who is a member.
The only prohibition is that they cannot be bishops.
 
Apart from the Rock upon which all the others stand - who was probably not married when he took this role otherwise his wife would have been mentioned - it is interesting that these other saints were married. Where did you find this information? This goes to prove how valid the document I linked to really is, in that we should all hold to our respective church traditions, codes of practice etc…whether Roman or eastern churches. Until we are told otherwise.
… I’d strike that last sentence and say “EVEN WHEN told otherwise!”

Apostle Saint Paul to the Galatians

I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and turning to a different gospel—not that there is another gospel, but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, If any one is preaching to you a gospel contrary to that which you received, let him be accursed.
Am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? Or am I trying to please men? If I were still pleasing men, I should not be a servant of Christ.
 
No I’m sorry not all former Anglican clergy are members of the ordinariate. Many are regular parish clergy.
Yes, some protestants remain as protestants. Some joined with the RCC and became Ordinariate priests. If they became full Catholics, leaving behind the Anglicanism altogether, then they are leaving behind conjugal relations with their wives.

Apart from this, ‘special dispensations’ occur.
 
Yes, some protestants remain as protestants. Some joined with the RCC and became Ordinariate priests. If they became full Catholics, leaving behind the Anglicanism altogether, then they are leaving behind conjugal relations with their wives.

Apart from this, ‘special dispensations’ occur.
Members of the Ordinariate are “full Catholics.” Furthermore, former Protestant ministers who are ordained in the Catholic Church are not required to abstain from conjugal relations with their wives, whether members of the Ordinariate or not.
 
… I’d strike that last sentence and say “EVEN WHEN told otherwise!”

Apostle Saint Paul to the Galatians

I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and turning to a different gospel—not that there is another gospel, but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, If any one is preaching to you a gospel contrary to that which you received, let him be accursed.
Am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? Or am I trying to please men? If I were still pleasing men, I should not be a servant of Christ.
So do you not think this applies to those who schism after we were told that what is bound in earth is bound in Heaven and what is loosed in earth is loosed on Heaven.

Your post didn’t do your argument any favours.

Who is being contradictory now?
 
Members of the Ordinariate are “full Catholics.” Furthermore, former Protestant ministers who are ordained in the Catholic Church are not required to abstain from conjugal relations with their wives, whether members of the Ordinariate or not.
Please cite the relevant extract from the Canon for this and I’ll concur.
 
So do you not think this applies to those who schism after we were told that what is bound in earth is bound in Heaven and what is loosed in earth is loosed on Heaven.

Your post didn’t do your argument any favours.

Who is being contradictory now?
Clearly only your perspective is accurate, the rest of us are all ignoramuses. Including Rome, when they recognize ‘whatever is bound and loosed’ extends further than just the Pope.
 
Yes, some protestants remain as protestants. Some joined with the RCC and became Ordinariate priests. If they became full Catholics, leaving behind the Anglicanism altogether, then they are leaving behind conjugal relations with their wives.

Apart from this, ‘special dispensations’ occur.
I hate to again correct you but I fear that you are wrong on many levels here. Firstly though you are correct to say some Anglicans remain Anglican and some Anglicans converted to Catholicism and became priests in the ordinariate. All Catholics are ‘full’ Catholics. Other former Anglicans became Priests and joined the regular clergy of the diocese. They remain married and as such have the right to a full married life. The only prohibition on married priests (not deacons) is that they cannot become bishops. Hence why the head of the ordinariate is a Msgr not a bishop.
 
Oh, dear brother, our Father moved from our original home near Chicago to your new home outside New York, therefore it is up to me to put out all fire even those you’ve started… 🤷

Not sure if this is serious or the fantastical of all comedic moments. No need to “defend” the Roman Church is a room full of siblings. Your absurd “defence” is a scourged earth tactic.
No. It is not. It is irreverent and shows great disrespect for many on here to deride the RCC for her appreciation of the priestly sanctity kept holy in the virginal state. I expected a little more from you going by previous posts far gone but obviously got you wrong.

And no, we are not siblings, because such a lack of charity is not even Christian, so you are siblings with some sect not the Catholic Church if this is your best representation. I’d hope other people from eastern churches might be able to offer a little more in terms of civility in the future.

Over and out.

 
I hate to again correct you but I fear that you are wrong on many levels here. Firstly though you are correct to say some Anglicans remain Anglican and some Anglicans converted to Catholicism and became priests in the ordinariate. All Catholics are ‘full’ Catholics. Other former Anglicans became Priests and joined the regular clergy of the diocese. They remain married and as such have the right to a full married life. The only prohibition on married priests (not deacons) is that they cannot become bishops. Hence why the head of the ordinariate is a Msgr not a bishop.
PLease cite Canon Law and I will concur on that point. As I’ve said.

And this still doesn’t mean that those who do preserve their pure state as priests are not making a holier sacrifice whether anglicans become priests or not. It is not a competition but rather a matter of grace. I don’t need to speculate. The fact that Bishops cannot marry should tell you something.
 
PLease cite Canon Law and I will concur on that point. As I’ve said.

And this still doesn’t mean that those who do preserve their pure state as priests are not making a holier sacrifice whether anglicans become priests or not. It is not a competition but rather a matter of grace. I don’t need to speculate. The fact that Bishops cannot marry should tell you something.
Not the view of the Popes from Pope Paul onwards I think. Pope Benedict in particular was very careful not to imply what you are saying
 
Not the view of the Popes from Pope Paul onwards I think. Pope Benedict in particular was very careful not to imply what you are saying
Provoking people into giving honest responses and then claiming their responses are incendiary is an incendiary act in itself and somewhat deceitful (IMO); therefore, enough said.

 
No. It is not. It is irreverent and shows great disrespect for many on here to deride the RCC for her appreciation of the priestly sanctity kept holy in the virginal state. I expected a little more from you going by previous posts far gone but obviously got you wrong.

And no, we are not siblings, because such a lack of charity is not even Christian, so you are siblings with some sect not the Catholic Church if this is your best representation. I’d hope other people from eastern churches might be able to offer a little more in terms of civility in the future.

Over and out.

By virtue of our baptism we are siblings, and in full Communion. Despite your misunderstanding and misinformation, and outright extremist incorrectness, your my brother nonetheless… although misinformed… Ain’t that a hoot though, your the one that basically insulted all the Eastern practices and praxis and now your taking offense and calling me a whatever?
 
If you don’t like honest responses then don’t provoke.

Twice now you have said that I have provoked you. I don’t believe I have. I am afraid that you are just pain incorrect on a number of issues not issues of belief but on matters of fact. The fact is that non ordinariate married priests exist and their existence does make much of this discussion moot
 
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