Mary Mediatrix of All Graces

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The more I hear objection to this clear teaching of both liturgy and the Fathers (as well as of popes and saints)…the more I see the spirit of Protestantism.
 
KMG said:
The more I hear objection to this clear teaching of both liturgy and the Fathers (as well as of popes and saints)…the more I see the spirit of Protestantism.
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Have you noticed that there are Protestants on this thread ‘liking’ the comments in opposition to Mary being Mediatrix of all Graces?
 
Fauken said:
But as previously pointed out, “Mediatrix of All Graces” would not be an apparition, but a truth regarding Mary. It is, as you said, a doctrinal question. She either is or is not the Mediatrix of All Graces. And if she isn’t, then the liturgy is falsely celebrating something about Our Lady. How could that be?
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Same vein as the private revelations … an unsettled doctrinal question that the Church has made an accommodation for. The Church clearly has a legitimate diversity of opinion on the matter. I acknowledge that several good sources have been cited in favor and, if you’re being honest, you would acknowledge the same for the opposite. You haven’t responded or refuted the legitimate counter arguments… so diversity of opinion reigns.

I’m happy that you have a strong devotion to Mary… I’m hopeful that you won’t force your pious opinion on other good Catholics
 
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I guess the Church “forced its pious opinion” on Catholics when it placed this title in the Missal and Breviary.
 
AugustTherese said:
Have you noticed that there are Protestants on this thread ‘liking’ the comments in opposition to Mary being Mediatrix of all Graces?
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Disparaging differing opinions with deragotory name calling is decidedly anti-Christian behavior… and resorting to name calling in lieu of facts and evidence only weakens your position
 
Yes, I mean better to disparage a venerable part of the faith than to offend heretics.
 
KMG said:
Yes, I mean better to disparage a venerable part of the faith than to offend heretics.
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I see. So people who don’t agree that Mary is Mediatrix of All Graces are less Catholic than you and your camp.
 
KMG said:
I guess the Church “forced its pious opinion” on Catholics when it placed this title in the Missal and Breviary.
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I think you’re acting a bit like a child…

The Church has feast days for Lourdes, Fatima, Guadalupe and many others, but doesn’t demand that Catholics subscribe to them. Those pius beliefs are things that one can embrace or not… the unsettled question of All Graces is not different.
 
KMG said:
Yes, I mean better to disparage a venerable part of the faith than to offend heretics.
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Any there you have it… we have descended in to the lower depths of cheap name calling … very nice KMG
 
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KMG said:
Again, and for the umpteenth time, the liturgy is clear (and the liturgy of Mary Mediatrix of ALL Graces appears in both the OF and the EF, for those who automatically dismiss anything pre-Vatican II).

I assume those who disagree with this notion will walk out of church should this liturgy be used in their offended presence.
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From what I understand, it’s not in use anymore, is it? Supplanted by “Patronage of the Blessed Virgin Mary”?
 
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AugustTherese:
Huh? What name-calling?
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Heretics, Protestants…
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I said there are Protestants liking comments on this thread…
 
KMG said:
The more I hear objection to this clear teaching of both liturgy and the Fathers (as well as of popes and saints)…the more I see the spirit of Protestantism.
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If you disagree with me then boogeymen?

C’mon guys…
 
Welcome to"camp," comrade KMG. Did you bring the marshmallows?
Gregorian chant and reading from the Douay-Rheims and the Catechism of St. Pius X around the campfire. Sounds good to me!
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Welcome to"camp," KMG. Did you bring the marshmallows?
Gregorian chant and reading from the Douay-Rheims and the Catechism of St. Pius X around the campfire. Sounds good to me!
:hugs:
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Be sure to take a lithograph of it for me. 😉
 
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