Mel Gibson a Catholic?

[rlg94086]

I think you need to reread the thread. Several have made it quite clear they believe he has done no wrong.

Several? Examples please. I see maybe one person’'s posts that would give that impression. The rest have merely discussed whether he is indeed a Catholic. That is not the equivalent of believing he has “done no wrong” or he is an “epitomy (spc) of Catholicism” or of “Mel worship.”

 

[GrammasRose]

Well, Monica Bellucci isn’t the subject of the thread. Her standing as a Catholic isn’t in question, and I don’t feel a need to do research on her to determine how bad her sins are. My guess is that Gibson and his casting people looked for the best actress for the role. I doubt that they searched out either a devout Catholic or sinner for the role.

It just struck me as odd (and funny) that you were more than willing to do the research and post negative things about her, but when someone said something positive you dismissed it out of hand. (note: I have no idea of the veracity of the positive claim either, but, again, it is moot to this thread’s subject.)

I posted one comment in response when asked rather than give a link about her because it was not appropriate for this venue. I was speaking about several not just her. I didn’t dismiss the postive either please do not assume. I said I did not know in regards to that and made that plain.

 

[GrammasRose]

Well, Monica Bellucci isn’t the subject of the thread. Her standing as a Catholic isn’t in question, and I don’t feel a need to do research on her to determine how bad her sins are. My guess is that Gibson and his casting people looked for the best actress for the role. I doubt that they searched out either a devout Catholic or sinner for the role.

It just struck me as odd (and funny) that you were more than willing to do the research and post negative things about her, but when someone said something positive you dismissed it out of hand. (note: I have no idea of the veracity of the positive claim either, but, again, it is moot to this thread’s subject.)

I posted one comment in response when asked rather than give a link about her because it was not inappropriate for this venue. I was speaking about several not just her. I didn’t dismiss the postive either please do not assume. I said I did not know in regards to that and made that plain.

 

[GrammasRose]

Well, Monica Bellucci isn’t the subject of the thread. Her standing as a Catholic isn’t in question, and I don’t feel a need to do research on her to determine how bad her sins are. My guess is that Gibson and his casting people looked for the best actress for the role. I doubt that they searched out either a devout Catholic or sinner for the role.

It just struck me as odd (and funny) that you were more than willing to do the research and post negative things about her, but when someone said something positive you dismissed it out of hand. (note: I have no idea of the veracity of the positive claim either, but, again, it is moot to this thread’s subject.)

I posted one comment in response when asked rather than give a link about her because it was not inappropriate for this venue. I was speaking about several not just her. I didn’t dismiss the postive either please do not assume. I said I did not know in regards to that and made that plain.

 

[paramedicgirl]

so what ? I guess you would just prefer I sit back and say nothing when I see wrong. I don’t so get over it.

Not at all. You said this was a waste of time, but it must not be, 'cause you’re still posting here.

 

[GrammasRose]

Several? Examples please. I see maybe one person’'s posts that would give that impression. The rest have merely discussed whether he is indeed a Catholic. That is not the equivalent of believing he has “done no wrong” or an “epitomy (spc) of Catholicism” or “Mel worship.”

I never once stated he wasn’t Catholic. I said he was not in communion with Rome. So to me he isn’t Catholic in that sense. Forming ones own church also shows a clear abuse of his being Catholic IMHO. I am not going to do the looking up of the posts when you are quite capable of doing so.

 

[rlg94086]

Not at all. You said this was a waste of time, but it must not be, 'cause you’re still posting here.

Most posts on the thread, I think.

 

[rlg94086]

I never once stated he wasn’t Catholic. I said he was not in communion with Rome. So to me he isn’t Catholic in that sense. Forming ones own church also shows a clear abuse of his being Catholic IMHO. I am not going to do the looking up of the posts when you are quite capable of doing so.

I have read every post on this thread, and I see zero evidence of your claim that “several” people have said Mel can do no wrong, etc. So, everyone will agree with me that you are wrong…unless you want to back it up.

 

[GrammasRose]

Not at all. You said this was a waste of time, but it must not be, 'cause you’re still posting here.

I was answering my posts you are not required to respond with what you believe are witty answers. They aren’t by the way.

 

[paramedicgirl]

I never once stated he wasn’t Catholic.

I said he was not in communion with Rome. So to me he isn’t Catholic in that sense.

Forming ones own church also shows a clear abuse of his being Catholic IMHO. I am not going to do the looking up of the posts when you are quite capable of doing so.

 

[GrammasRose]

Most posts on the thread, I think.

and you are not here to talk? excuse me for bothering your precious little mind with answers to posts directed towards me.

 

[GrammasRose]

I have read every post on this thread, and I see zero evidence of your claim that “several” people have said Mel can do no wrong, etc. So, everyone will agree with me that you are wrong…unless you want to back it up.

I don’t really care what you think and I am finished with this nonsense. You want to remain ignorant go for it

 

[rlg94086]

and you are not here to talk? excuse me for bothering your precious little mind with answers to posts directed towards me.

No. I’m here to type.

And, I’m not bothered at all…but, then I haven’t referred to the thread as a “waste of time” in more than one post.

 

[paramedicgirl]

No. I’m here to type.

And, I’m not bothered at all…but, then I haven’t referred to the thread as a “waste of time” in more than one post.

48 and counting…

 

[HenryV]

Let’s bring out the Holy Inquisition and maybe we could have a wholesome autodafe afterwards, I suspect there would be a lot more than Mel burning.

 

[Lance]

Mel Gibson is not a Catholic in any way shape or form. He is out of union with Rome, he is one of the most irreverent figures in Hollywood. The man lives and breathes for hypocracy. (sp?) But thats just my opinion.

If you can make statements like this about someone you don’t know, I question whether God is calling you a a religious life as you say in your signature. He could be calling you with the full knowledge that you have a lot to learn but you should spend a lot of time in prayer and acknowledge your shortcomings before entering religious life.

 

[Lance]

I never once stated he wasn’t Catholic. I said he was not in communion with Rome. So to me he isn’t Catholic in that sense. Forming ones own church also shows a clear abuse of his being Catholic IMHO. I am not going to do the looking up of the posts when you are quite capable of doing so.

I am no theologian but how can one be Catholic and not in communion with Rome?

 

[GrammasRose]

48 and counting…

and I should care you are counting because? get a life!

 

[GrammasRose]

I am no theologian but how can one be Catholic and not in communion with Rome?

He does not follow the Pope that is how.

 

[Tantum_ergo]

Wait a minute. Not to be picky, Gramma, but you said just now:

I never once stated he wasn’t Catholic. I said he was not in communion with Rome. So to me he isn’t Catholic in that sense. Forming ones own church also shows a clear abuse of his being Catholic IMHO. I am not going to do the looking up of the posts when you are quite capable of doing so.

But earlier in the thread, in response to john’s post here:
Originally Posted by johnstown johnn
Pope John Paul 2 received Mel as one of his flock prior to the release of “The Passion.” Were he a schismatic, and a celebrity figure worldwide, the personal encounter with His Holiness would never had taken place. Mel Gibson is as Catholic as you or I, no doubt about it.

You said:
Posted by GrammasRose
That was all rumor. It is on wikipedia. Mel is not a roman catholic.

Now to me, saying that Mel is “not a Roman Catholic” is saying that 'he is not a Catholic." You may have gone on (in fact you did) to qualify the statement, but you should acknowledge that you really DID say he was not, realized that what you MEANT was ‘not a Catholic in X sense’, and not try to give the impression that ‘you never said he wasn’t in the first place.’

Because you did, and not everybody (even yourself) has the time to read through and see your ‘emendations’, especially if you are acting as though you had never ‘erred’ in the first place.

Just a friendly suggestion. . .we all make errors, and it’s really no biggie to admit them. If people are going to jump all over you and refuse to ‘accept’ your humanity, then it’s their problem, not yours, isn’t it? And most people here are not going to ‘jump’, but instead will be quite appreciative, and understanding.