Men - how do you feel about your wife seeing a male physician?

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Lily…my wife choses all of her own doctors. Fortunately she has enough respect for herself and for me to chose a female doctor for all of her annual exams, etc.
I also remember you mentioned that you mentioned in post 310 that you would not have marrried her if she went to a male doctor.

Did you ever consider that she perhaps chooses female doctors over male doctors because of FEAR of what you would say and/or do to her. Does she fear that you would divorce her? What other unilateral decisions do you make for her health care that defines what she is allowed to do or not allowed to do.

Seriously, the way you are talking is making you sound like an abuser. As a person who has seen many abusers in my line of work, you’re sounding a lot like one.
 
It seems to me that a lot of women of this thread are way to quick to accept the excuse that they live in a rural area, before deciding to hop into the car and drive to the next town or city.
Spare me. Are you seriously telling me you’d drive two or three hours each way just for a ten-minute prostate exam by a male doctor if the only doctor in your town, perfectly capable of doing them, was female? That’s verging on insane.

If Mary Magdalene could prepare Christ’s body for burial in the tomb and ‘intimately’ anoint his feet with oil and wash them whilst alive, then certainly you can let a female doctor treat you!
It also seems to me that the topic of this thread is a very sensitive to a lot of them as they seem to try to defend their decisions as like they had no other choice.
I have the choice of females. Sometimes I see them, sometimes males. I’m perfectly comfortable with my decision, and am not defending it on the basis that I have no other choice.

Rather I’m pointing out that some women really DO have no choice except taking an unconscionably long time away from family and work and wasting an unconsionable amount of petrol money to go to a far-away woman doctor.

I would add that a) knowing as many doctors as I do, as well as I do, I trust the professionalism of the males every bit as implicitly as that of the females, which trust has invariably been well-placed, and

b) if you’re going to quote Leviticus at me, then you must not eat pork or shellfish, shave the hair of your temples or your beard, or wear clothig of mixed fibres among other things. Do you obey THOSE Levitical commands?
 
I also remember you mentioned that you mentioned in post 310 that you would not have marrried her if she went to a male doctor.

Did you ever consider that she perhaps chooses female doctors over male doctors because of FEAR of what you would say and/or do to her. Does she fear that you would divorce her? What other unilateral decisions do you make for her health care that defines what she is allowed to do or not allowed to do.

Seriously, the way you are talking is making you sound like an abuser. As a person who has seen many abusers in my line of work, you’re sounding a lot like one.
Sorry AHapka, I hate to disappoint you, but I had stated that I probably wouldn’t have married her [if] she didn’t share the same convictions that I do. There’s a difference!

My wife also feels the same way that I do about male doctors, as she was touched inappropriately by a male doctor when she was a minor.

And to your 3rd paragraph…take caution with your innuendos.
 
Spare me. Are you seriously telling me you’d drive two or three hours each way just for a ten-minute prostate exam by a male doctor if the only doctor in your town, perfectly capable of doing them, was female? That’s verging on insane.

If Mary Magdalene could prepare Christ’s body for burial in the tomb and ‘intimately’ anoint his feet with oil and wash them whilst alive, then certainly you can let a female doctor treat you!

I have the choice of females. Sometimes I see them, sometimes males. I’m perfectly comfortable with my decision, and am not defending it on the basis that I have no other choice.

Rather I’m pointing out that some women really DO have no choice except taking an unconscionably long time away from family and work and wasting an unconsionable amount of petrol money to go to a far-away woman doctor.

I would add that a) knowing as many doctors as I do, as well as I do, I trust the professionalism of the males every bit as implicitly as that of the females, which trust has invariably been well-placed, and

b) if you’re going to quote Leviticus at me, then you must not eat pork or shellfish, shave the hair of your temples or your beard, or wear clothig of mixed fibres among other things. Do you obey THOSE Levitical commands?
Men who don’t want their wives to not go to a male gynecologist are not crazy. They just love their wives so much that they don’t want another man to access and see the private parts of their wives. Some women and their husbands want to protect their intimacy and they feel like their intimacy is violated when the women are treated by male gynecologists. The bond between a husband and a wife is very special when they never expose their private parts to another person of the opposite sex.

Many women prefer female gynecologists for a variety of reasons. Some of the reasons are: 1.) They feel very uncomfortable having a male gynecologist treating them for intimate examinations. 2.) They feel like female gynecologists can understand some things better. For example, men never have cramps, ovarian cysts, and other female health problems. 3.) They want to protect the intimacy between their husbands or future husbands and themselves. 4.) They want their husband to be the only man in the world to see them naked or access certain parts of their body. 5.) Religious and moral reasons.

The All Female OB/Gyn Directory encourages all doctors to be sensitive to why many women patients and their husbands may not want the women to have another male in the room for intimate procedures or surgeries and not question them why.

allfemaleobgyndirectory.com/tipsfordoctors.aspx

well folks, I’m pretty tired, and calling it quits for today. 🤷
 
She also feels the same way that I do about male doctors, as she was touched inappropriately by a male doctor when she was a minor.
I’m truly sorry for that, as I am for every child that is abused.

Doesn’t change the point. If I were touched inappropriately by a librarian when I was a minor, I might understandably want to avoid libraries (or at least male librarians) as an adult. For me, being an actual victim, such a measure may even be appropriate.

Doesn’t mean that as a blanket rule libraries aren’t safe, or that librarians aren’t to be trusted, nor would I want to keep children in general away from them.
 
Men who don’t want their wives to not go to a male gynecologist are not crazy. They just love their wives so much that they don’t want another man to access and see the private parts of their wives. Some women and their husbands want to protect their intimacy and they feel like their intimacy is violated when the women are treated by male gynecologists. The bond between a husband and a wife is very special when they never expose their private parts to another person of the opposite sex.

Many women prefer female gynecologists for a variety of reasons. Some of the reasons are: 1.) They feel very uncomfortable having a male gynecologist treating them for intimate examinations. 2.) They feel like female gynecologists can understand some things better. For example, men never have cramps, ovarian cysts, and other female health problems. 3.) They want to protect the intimacy between their husbands or future husbands and themselves. 4.) They want their husband to be the only man in the world to see them naked or access certain parts of their body. 5.) Religious and moral reasons.

The All Female OB/Gyn Directory encourages all doctors to be sensitive to why many women patients and their husbands may not want the women to have another male in the room for intimate procedures or surgeries and not question them why.

allfemaleobgyndirectory.com/tipsfordoctors.aspx

well folks, I’m pretty tired, and calling it quits for today. 🤷
I see part of your point. Some of it is ridiculous - as I said earlier, a doctor need not have cancer themselves to treat it effectively, nor need they go through brain surgery themselves to be able to perform it effectively.

Tell me, if ANY gynaecologist makes me very uncomfortable, would it be wise for me to avoid them altogether?

Depending on the reasons why you avoid male gynaes, it is sometimes more appropriate for the one who avoids to think about WHY they trust men less than women and, if such fear is unhealthy, to acknowledge it as such.

While I think it is right for doctors not to put women on the spot by questioning them, I think every woman who has such preferences owes it to herself to think about such issues and not needlessly feed the fear by avoiding the object of it where it is possible instead to face and overcome it.
 
hmmm…in my humble opinion, no women should ever submit herself to any male gyn exam if it can be avoided. As far as should there be any laws of course not. I know of many good male doctors.
Only women see ob/gyns. You oppose women seeing male ob/gyns. Who would see these good male ob/gyns? Might as well, have a law against them.
 
Only women see ob/gyns. You oppose women seeing male ob/gyns. Who would see these good male ob/gyns? Might as well, have a law against them.
Well, I finally agree with you Marsha, but I assume your probably being sarcastic though.
 
Well, I finally agree with you Marsha, but I assume your probably being sarcastic though.
But your logic would lead to all sorts of restrictions on male doctors treating female patients, which is ridiculous considering that women were exclusively treated by male doctors with no especial occurrence of impropriety - certainly no more than now, when stats should by your logic be well down what with all the women going to women doctors and all. 🤷

Even an examination of the skin for skin cancer requires a woman to strip down to her underwear - are you happy for your wife to be in her underwear in front of another man? Chest exams, abdominal exams of any kind might require underwear from waist up or waist down - isn’t that enough of an occasion of sin for most men, lust-ravaged untrustworthy animals that they are according to you?

Heck, what about surgery on the appendix or hip bone - that requires nudity from the waist down. Can’t a doctor do appendectomies on patients of the opposite gender then?

Does your concern extend to nurses? If not, why not? They have just as much ‘intimate’ contact with patients (that word in such a context really does make me laugh) and opportunity as doctors do - would you refuse to be treated by female nurses? Would you refuse your wife to be treated by a male nurse?
 
Homers–I have answered the questions pointedly raised by you and addressed to me, yet you have only selectively reiterated your point in your replies. We all understand that you claim your wife feels the same way you do about this issue. No one denies your right to your opinion. You said early on that you aren’t judging anyone, however, many of your replies do exactly that. I am not defensive and am not trying to justify anything to myself, husband, you, or anyone on this board. You have not addressed any of the questions asked of you regarding whether these rules apply to homosexual doctors, and those questions have been asked of you many times.

I wonder if you encourage your wife to have limited contact with other males, whether old friends she knew before you met, other professionals, co-workers, etc. Are you a man who is uncomfortable with your wife having any friendship/relationship with any other man?

For at least the third time, is it in the realm of possibility for you to admit that while the arrangement you and your wife have works for you, it’s not for you to JUDGE the rest of us for our decisions and what works in our marriages?

Oh, and while you were quick to quote Leviticus, you did not answer the questions asked of you when the tables were turned.

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But your logic would lead to all sorts of restrictions on male doctors treating female patients, which is ridiculous considering that women were exclusively treated by male doctors with no especial occurrence of impropriety - certainly no more than now, when stats should by your logic be well down what with all the women going to women doctors and all. 🤷

Even an examination of the skin for skin cancer requires a woman to strip down to her underwear - are you happy for your wife to be in her underwear in front of another man? Chest exams, abdominal exams of any kind might require underwear from waist up or waist down - isn’t that enough of an occasion of sin for most men, lust-ravaged untrustworthy animals that they are according to you?

Heck, what about surgery on the appendix or hip bone - that requires nudity from the waist down. Can’t a doctor do appendectomies on patients of the opposite gender then?

Does your concern extend to nurses? If not, why not? They have just as much ‘intimate’ contact with patients (that word in such a context really does make me laugh) and opportunity as doctors do - would you refuse to be treated by female nurses? Would you refuse your wife to be treated by a male nurse?
Lily…Yes, I would still be adverse to my wife stripping down to her underwear (no bra) for a male doctor for a complete skin exam, unless I was present. And certainly yes to any breast exam, etc. My wife recently had a CT scan of her abdomin being done by a male tech, who asked her to remove her bra and to place on the gown. He further said that he may have to have a “female” nurse place a pointer if necessary. Untrustworthy, pherhaps, but trust is earned.

Surgery, yes…but in my wifes case, 1.) I would want her present during the procedure for me, 2.) and me present for her.

Sure, my concern extends to male nurses}. Would I refuse treatment by a female nurse}, well I guess that question would depend… I would definitely not want a female nurse inserting or checking a foley without my wife around, etc.
 
If it was an issue for my wife, it would be an issue for me. It’s not, so it isn’t. I can understand that embarrassment would lead some people to question examinations by members of the opposite sex, but I don’t see the issue in either religious or moral terms.
 
Lily…Yes, I would still be adverse to my wife stripping down to her underwear (no bra) for a male doctor for a complete skin exam, unless I was present. And certainly yes to any breast exam, etc. My wife recently had a CT scan of her abdomin being done by a male tech, who asked her to remove her bra and to place on the gown. He further said that he may have to have a “female” nurse place a pointer if necessary. Untrustworthy, pherhaps, but trust is earned.

Surgery, yes…but in my wifes case, 1.) I would want her present during the procedure for me, 2.) and me present for her.

Sure, my concern extends to [male nurses}. Would I refuse treatment by a [female nurse}, well I guess that question would depend… I would definitely not want a female nurse inserting or checking a foley without my wife around, etc.
Ok, you are seriously paranoid. Of course she had to remove her bra for the CT of her abdomen, that’s standard protocol for radiology imaging. Her bra probably contained some kind of metal in it (underwire?) and we take no chances with bras because it will mess up the pictures of chest xrays and abdominal xrays and CTs.

Second, as far as foley insertion goes, we female nurses find no joy in shoving a rubber hose down a penis, but it’s part of our job sometimes so we do it. We feel bad for the patient’s because we know it hurts. And honestly, about just “checking the foley” you’d want your wife around, seriously, we are not perverts in the medical field. So if you are stuck in the ER for several hours and your wife had to go home and you had a female nurse taking care of you, you wouldn’t let her just check your foley??? Are you serious? Are you mad?? LOL, it’s almost funny because you are blowing this up to be much bigger then it is. And just because you read a couple of people’s opinions on the matter it doesn’t make it fact. You can find anything on the internet to say what you want it to say. Doesn’t make it true!

I am incredibly offended as a medical professional by your posts and as a woman that sees a male reproductive endocrinologist. He was known as one of the best in his field and I went to him and was, God forbid, “scandalous” to “submit myself and my private parts” to him. :rolleyes::rolleyes::eek::eek:

Well, guess what? He was the one, that after I saw 3 other doctors, one of whom was a woman, finally got me to get pregnant. He was a blessing to my husband and I that now we are finally gonna be parents after all these years.

To the rest of the people, we might as well just forget about this thread. It’s almost like he is a troll on this thread by continuously instigating us all. We should just let this thread go. We as women know what we must do or go see to take care of our bodies, we shouldn’t let an insecure man tell us differently.

Oh, and for the record, in the ER I work at we do quite a bit of pelvic exams as they do in all ERs and not ONE male doctor or physician assistant that I’ve chaperoned(sp?) with has enjoyed it. In fact, we all HATE it. Pelvic exams are not fun, joyful or stimulating in the least. It’s just another invasive procedure that needs done at times, like a prostate exam or colonoscopy. The men make a point to get in and get out ASAP with the pelvic exams.

Just because you read a couple perverted accounts of men, don’t assume we are all like that or that the number is “high”. This is your own ASSUMPTION and you know what they say about assuming.😛 Until you get some actual HARD NUMBERS on paper then all you have is speculation and opinion.

So go ahead and be paranoid, but it’s a shame you and your wife might miss out on some real good medical care just because you are paranoid about members of the opposite sex seeing your genitalia. Honestly, for us medical professionals, we see so much genitalia in a SINGLE DAY that we get blind to it, so to speak, over time and don’t even pay it any mind.

So you need to seriously quite making the women on this forum feel bad about seeing a male OB/GYN. What they do is their decision and you need to stop with your incessent bantering because seeing a male OB/GYN doesn’t invade your modesty, for crying out loud.

It’s laughable to say that it is because I know how it TRULY goes in the medical field first hand, but yet you take the opinions of a few perverts over the several accounts of those in the medical field here on the forums. Why are you spending so much time trying to find accounts of perverts on pelvic exams?? Seriously, do you have nothing better to do with your time then to worry over something so ridiculous??
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What I find most frustrating about this opinion thread is that Homer is insinuating that married woman who have male OBGYNs are disrespectful to their husbands and simply do not love them.

I will echo what has already been said here several times:

Homers, I fully respect your and your wife’s decision for her to only see a female OBGYN. Is it possible for you to respect a woman’s decision to see a male OBGYN without accusing her of not loving her own husband?

 
After going through this whole thread, I submit with all due respect to Homers, that his opinion has more to do with his religious beliefs and his views on marriage that are influenced by that religion. We Catholics obviously have a different understanding of marriage, intimacy and of modesty, etc.

Homers, I’m sure you are doing what you feel best, and so are the people here. Perhaps it just needs to be left there since everyone is set and comfortable in their position.:twocents:
 
After going through this whole thread, I submit with all due respect to Homers, that his opinion has more to do with his religious beliefs and his views on marriage that are influenced by that religion. We Catholics obviously have a different understanding of marriage, intimacy and of modesty, etc.

Homers, I’m sure you are doing what you feel best, and so are the people here. Perhaps it just needs to be left there since everyone is set and comfortable in their position.:twocents:
Well said! I was looking for the words regarding our differing religious beliefs, but was not able to temper them so well. Thank you!
 
My dh read some of this thread last night, laying down next to me…and his response?

Leave poor Homers alone, everyone. As long as he isn’t doing this to control her, because of his own insecurities…leave him alone!

How profound.:hmmm:

And on that note…

:rotfl:
 
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