Men's Rights and the Catholic Church

[Crescentinus]

And when they fail we say “we told you so.”

Indeed. But, it would be better if we would deny the lesbian feminists the opportunities for them to further their attacks so that we can weaken their positions.

Yes, I do sound more like a soldier at this point.

 

[silentfactor80]

Indeed. But, it would be better if we would deny the lesbian feminists the opportunities for them to further their attacks so that we can weaken their positions.

Yes, I do sound more like a soldier at this point.

I’d prefer to watch them reap what they sow. That’s the only way people understand their transgression sometimes.

 

[Crescentinus]

I’d prefer to watch them reap what they sow. That’s the only way people understand their transgression sometimes.

Indeed. Hence, I do believe that the MGTOWs go for other options. That way, the lesbian feminist position would be severely weakened to the point of sheer recklessness.

Also, feminists like AlTheCollegeGal are like a resistance movement within feminism. Why? Because feminists like her are destroying radical and lesbian feminism’s hold within feminism.

 

[AlTheCollegeGal]

You are one of the feminists who are rebelling against radical feminism and I salute you for that.

Thank you!

 

[silentfactor80]

Indeed. Hence, I do believe that the MGTOWs go for other options. That way, the lesbian feminist position would be severely weakened to the point of sheer recklessness.

Also, feminists like AlTheCollegeGal are like a resistance movement within feminism. Why? Because feminists like her are destroying radical and lesbian feminism’s hold within feminism.

That’s fine and all but the bottom line is feminism still hunkers down on the fact that men oppress women while we enjoy unique privilege. The problem is women enjoy privilege they are currently not required by law to contribute towards. One example is when it comes time to defend the country. Men have been shamed into not fighting in war (often by conscription). Look up the “White Feather Girls” who shamed men in Britain for not going to fight in WWII. Women got free birth control mandated in the US before they were expected to register for the Selective Service. Men face “undue burden” for not registering. If we don’t do it we loose government employment, no drivers license, financial aid, face fines, and possibly imprisonment. Since when have women ever bore such a requirement they didn’t have an escape from? I don’t think many women really care or understand what that is like for a guy knowing you could be sent off to die at anytime. I’d rather have 3 kids than go off to war!!

 

[Nimzovik]

Hmmmmmmmm some pretty good points in the above posts during my absence.

Yet for all that I still do not want women to be drafted. I wonder what AtTheCollegeGirl thinks of this?

I would also like to see if **AtTheCollegeGirl **will refute the stats delivered at her door?

Must go for now…

Regards,
Nim.

 

[Crescentinus]

That’s fine and all but the bottom line is feminism still hunkers down on the fact that men oppress women while we enjoy unique privilege. The problem is women enjoy privilege they are currently not required by law to contribute towards. One example is when it comes time to defend the country. Men have been shamed into not fighting in war (often by conscription). Look up the “White Feather Girls” who shamed men in Britain for not going to fight in WWII. Women got free birth control mandated in the US before they were expected to register for the Selective Service. Men face “undue burden” for not registering. If we don’t do it we loose government employment, no drivers license, financial aid, face fines, and possibly imprisonment. Since when have women ever bore such a requirement they didn’t have an escape from? I don’t think many women really care or understand what that is like for a guy knowing you could be sent off to die at anytime. I’d rather have 3 kids than go off to war!!

There are two things that we need to remember.

1. Men and women are equals in that both are made in the image and likeness of God.
2. Justice and equality are opposites. But, both are complementary to each other.

That said, the ideas that men are superior to women in every conceivable manner and vice versa are highly erroneous.because both genders would treat each other in contempt. This is the one of the reasons why I oppose radical feminism and lesbian feminism.

 

[silentfactor80]

Hmmmmmmmm some pretty good points in the above posts during my absence.

Yet for all that I still do not want women to be drafted. I wonder what AtTheCollegeGirl thinks of this?

I would also like to see if **AtTheCollegeGirl **will refute the stats delivered at her door?

Must go for now…

Regards,
Nim.

I don’t mean to be incendiary but to me any feminism is about taking privilege before responsibility. I am anti-war too but that doesn’t mean squat to the gov’t.

 

[Nimzovik]

Yes… I too think the ‘Feminist Brand’ is now quite anathema to Chistian principles. The bulk of Feminism, at least. I am really curious to see which Feminist organizations of those that profess Catholicism belong too or why they claim the Feminist label. Also how they rectify their Catholicsim and Feminism.

I *should *think that those that advocate such would be happy to explain and delineate their ideology.

 

[gam197]

AtTheCollegeGal
in some parts of the world, horrific things such as rape are seen as the woman’s fault.

True but what can women do to change that, support catholic human rights organizations like Human Life International. There are many groups already working to change things.

Feminists bring in this idea of sisterhood . You can’t be a true sister unless you care about every sister. We, as catholics, are called to care about everyone. Just saying this makes me feel like I am insensitive but I am not - each nation has its own set of problems. In the US our problem is rampart abortion.

 

[silentfactor80]

True but what can women do to change that, support catholic human rights organizations like Human Life International. There are many groups already working to change things.

Feminists bring in this idea of sisterhood . You can’t be a true sister unless you care about every sister. We, as catholics, are called to care about everyone. Just saying this makes me feel like I am insensitive but I am not - each nation has its own set of problems. In the US our problem is rampart abortion.

And in some parts of men are victims of rape too but since homosexuality is a crime they cannot come forward without potentially being imprisoned (irinnews.org/Report/84909/SOUTH-AFRICA-One-in-four-men-rape). Also, raped men have no shelters to turn too since “men can’t be raped.” It is also not uncommon for a woman to leave her husband if he admits to being raped in Africa. (guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jul/17/the-rape-of-men)

“In Africa no man is allowed to be vulnerable,” says RLP’s gender officer Salome Atim. “You have to be masculine, strong. You should never break down or cry. A man must be a leader and provide for the whole family. When he fails to reach that set standard, society perceives that there is something wrong.”

Often, she says, wives who discover their husbands have been raped decide to leave them. “They ask me: ‘So now how am I going to live with him? As what? Is this still a husband? Is it a wife?’ They ask, ‘If he can be raped, who is protecting me?’ There’s one family I have been working closely with in which the husband has been raped twice. When his wife discovered this, she went home, packed her belongings, picked up their child and left. Of course that brought down this man’s heart.”

^Cited from the above article…very sad!!! Rape affects everyone, not just women!

This link shows the issue closer to home (tampabay.com/news/courts/article1183449.ece).

 

[silentfactor80]

I would also like to add an additional link of women holding men at gunpoint for their seed. Again, no one talks about this. It would be nice to at the very least get worldwide acknowledgement that these problems DO exist! By failing to discuss these issues we short change and harm men all over.

myzimbabwe.co.zw/news/1156-women-rape-men-in-zimbabwe-at-gun-point-then-sell-their-sperms-in-nigeria-and-ghana-for-us14000-per-condom.html

 

[Nimzovik]

True but what can women do to change that, support catholic human rights organizations like Human Life International. There are many groups already working to change things.

Feminists bring in this idea of sisterhood . You can’t be a true sister unless you care about every sister. We, as catholics, are called to care about everyone. Just saying this makes me feel like I am insensitive but I am not - each nation has its own set of problems. In the US our problem is rampart abortion.

Indeed. Abortion is our number one spiritual enemy so vehemently espoused by… you guessed it! Feminists!

Pretty close,however comes the widely practiced torture of young living male** babies! :bigyikes: Yes! I am talking about circumcision!! :bigyikes: Yowtch!!! *Think *about it. There is no reason in the world (except for Jewish religous practices, if I am not mistaken) that such procedures should be practiced in technologicaly advanced countries like America. As they say… The first cut is the deepest…

I find it fascinating that many Feminist groups publicly and rabidly detest the horrors of female genital manipulation of women (and rightfully so) in Africa, yet call doctors to do the very same thing to their very own male children!! What savagery!

Now. What does that tell us? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…

I wonder… Can one be a ‘true sister’ and be concerned about infant** male** genital mutilation? I mean men get blamed for the mutilation of Females… Can we also not -]blame/-] er… use 'shaming tactics’ like the Feminsits do to men and blame women for this gruesome practice? This Atrocity commited against Men? Ahmmmmmmm?

Standing up for my ‘**true **brothers’ regards,
Nim

 

[TimeEntrance]

Perhaps. However one must recognize that Catholics have NO physical shelters for battered men, now* do* they? This factor is especially appalling as both sexes initiate violence on an approximately 50% to 50% ratio!

Yes. Men are relatively ignored yes?

I haven’t really read this thread, so, maybe I’m not responding to the original and appropriate context.

But in my mind it would send the wrong message to the Protestant and Muslim worlds by creating Catholic shelters for battered men, battered by women.

I think what is better is for more alpha males to mentor the beta and omega males in picking an appropriate female mate for themselves. I’m not necessarily an alpha male but I would advice any male to not date or get romantic with a female that can kick their butt.

Most men have the skeletal structure if they take the right training to physically overcome most women. I say most because there are rare exception of women that seem to be born half-man. They look it.

But even if you can physically beat a woman up that does not stop her from stabbing you or throwing hot grease on you. Women like this need to be avoided.

That’s my view anyways…

 

[gam197]

originally posted by silentfactor80
I would also like to add an additional link of women holding men at gunpoint for their seed. Again, no one talks about this. It would be nice to at the very least get worldwide acknowledgement that these problems DO exist! By failing to discuss these issues we short change and harm men all over.

myzimbabwe.co.zw/news/115…er-condom.html

Women don’t see it that way. Because men outweigh women and overpower women by physical strength, they already perceive the themselves as “victims”
When walking down a street after dark, every male is a potential rapist. It is just something you feel. The feminist movement is smart to key in on those kind of issues.

originally posted by Nimzovik
I am talking about circumcision!! Think about it. There is no reason in the world (except for Jewish religous practices, if I am not mistaken) that such procedures should be practiced in technologicaly advanced countries like America.

It is not the same. They would be the first to say it was male doctors who told all these generations of mothers to do this for cleanliness - to prevent infections.

 

[Nimzovik]

**TimeEntrance wrote: **

I haven’t really read this thread, so, maybe I’m not responding to the original and appropriate context.

But in my mind it would send the wrong message to the Protestant and Muslim worlds by creating Catholic shelters for battered men, battered by women.

I think what is better is for more alpha males to mentor the beta and omega males in picking an appropriate female mate for themselves. I’m not necessarily an alpha male but I would advice any male to not date or get romantic with a female that can kick their butt.

Most men have the skeletal structure if they take the right training to physically overcome most women. I say most because there are rare exception of women that seem to be born half-man. They look it.

But even if you can physically beat a woman up that does not stop her from stabbing you or throwing hot grease on you. Women like this need to be avoided.

That’s my view anyways…

Nimzovik responds:

Indeed… what one marries and what one ends up with is often a different thing altogether married people tell me.

See here: youtube.com/watch?v=y7ot_nESusw

See how Feminism has so saturated the collective Psyche. that this link demonstrates how it is acceptable and even funny for such horrors!

youtube.com/watch?v=VKgwczruOSQ

I wonder just how many ‘True Sisters’ agree with such eh?

Reprehensible. Simply deplroable. Why were these women not taken off the T.V.?

Why!!!

I get it. Men have been so demonized by Feminists (It surely wasn’t men spreading thsi stuff!) that it is Politically Correct to marginalize men and spread such** Misandry**.

 

[Nimzovik]

Women don’t see it that way. Because men outweigh women and overpower women by physical strength, they already perceive the themselves as “victims”
When walking down a street after dark, every male is a potential rapist. It is just something you feel. The feminist movement is smart to key in on those kind of issues.

It is not the same. They would be the first to say it was male doctors who told all these generations of mothers to do this for cleanliness - to prevent infections.

Bolding MIne:

Mutilation is mutilation** is mutilation!** The same for Men as for Women. Once one becomes aware of the issue, it is an issue! Where is the Feminist outcry? The Feminist outrage? Are not Female Doctors involved in this as well -eh?

Men are certainly talking about it! Warning! Graphic medical terminology is employed on this link. youtube.com/watch?v=Nk0zanvEbS0

There are no reasons to rely on genital mutilation for Hygenic purposes when simple education in terms of asceptic technique is far more effective. Sheeeeesh.

 

[gam197]

originally posted by Nimzovik
youtube.com/watch?v=VKgwczruOSQ

I wonder just how many ‘True Sisters’ agree with such eh?

Reprehensible. Simply deplroable. Why were these women not taken off the T.V.?

Notice in the second video, they talked immediately about rape.

The Mens Right Group key in on some issue that are sensitive to women and then do a pretty good job showing how foolish some feminist ideas are.

On youtube you can do a private site which only members can access and that would be a way of limiting language.

 

[silentfactor80]

Women don’t see it that way. Because men outweigh women and overpower women by physical strength, they already perceive the themselves as “victims”
When walking down a street after dark, every male is a potential rapist. It is just something you feel. The feminist movement is smart to key in on those kind of issues.

If a woman has a gun it doesn’t matter how strong the guy is unless he is Superman. Most of us are not Superman. Women are psychologically aggressive. Look up “teen shaming.” It is all female on female abuse. These are issues that need to be addressed.

 

[Nimzovik]

Then there is th e issue of the man being arrested and incarcerated even he is just defending himself. Let’s face it. Domestic violence against men is perceived as being really O.K.

See here:

youtube.com/watch?v=CRCS6GGhIRc

Explain this to me! Note the Police Officer’s comment toward the end of the video.

Note also how the movies portray the hitting of men by women as being socially accpetable.

What? No** Feminist** outrage when women are violent regarding men?