Mexico bishops launch 'the migrant is a gift' campaign on social media

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TheLittleLady said:
Seriously? Please provide your source that migrant farm workers have diseases at such a level the farmers do not want to hire them.
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My neighbor … has decided to hire in Amish … they have fewer health & disease related illnesses and fewer medical test related issues.
 
Anecdotal, personal experiences don’t mean there is a systemic problem.
 
philipl said:
I believe the VA should be ended. All Vet should receive vouchers to hospitals to get their care.
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I almost totally agree with this.

All Veterans should receive “vouchers” or something similar so that they can visit civilian hospitals or civilian doctors based on their needs. NO long lines.

My experience is that the VA HAS THE MONEY … but they have an excessive surplus of bureaucrats … that delay, delay, delay … AND misplace and lose the paperwork.

Veterans are dying while waiting in lines … and the VA fakes the queues.

Me talking.
 
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MonteRCMS said:
My neighbor … has decided to hire in Amish … they have fewer health & disease related illnesses and fewer medical test related issues.
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I expect the seasonal ag visa program has basic health check requirements to get the visa.
 
There is no accurate number, the methodology for classification of “homeless” is jello. The Census Bureau admits they do not have a way to accurately census for the true homeless.

You made a statement that painted with a broad brush WRT migrant workers and disease. I did not make that claim. Seems civil debate with understood rules is a dodo.
 
TheLittleLady said:
There is no accurate number, the methodology for classification of “homeless” is jello. The Census Bureau admits they do not have a way to accurately census for the true homeless.
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You gave me a highly detailed statistical procedure.
 
Yet, not every group applies that one procedure.

We obviously do not communicate on the same wavelength.
 
TheLittleLady said:
Yet, not every group applies that one procedure.

We obviously do not communicate on the same wavelength.
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I suspect you did not even read your own reference.

I have been doing these things for decades and the procedure you provided was excellent.
 
but the VA is just one program that I would abolish. I would get 90% of all federal government programs including SS and Medicare/medicaid. No more corp subsidies. No more welfare. No more tax cuts for people or companies. Create a national sales tax at 10%
 
philipl said:
but the VA is just one program that I would abolish. I would get 90% of all federal government programs including SS and Medicare/medicaid. No more corp subsidies. No more welfare. No more tax cuts for people or companies. Create a national sales tax at 10%
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Gotta start someplace.

They have a name for this.

Fair Tax or Flat Tax … one of those.
 
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dont use the phrase “fair tax” on this board. One of the posters will come out and tell you why the word “fair” isnt really “fair”.
 
But here is how I and progressives disagree, How do I fulfill that obligation? I believe government has no place in that obligation. And when I say no place I mean no place at all.
 
Flor said:
There is Justice a foot here, which many Racially European Americans resent
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How any one can look at the destruction of the various native races and wish that same destruction upon our own people is beyond me. Its rather disgusting though that such a high number of quislings exist in America.
 
Farm worker wages will increase only when farmers primarily use legal workers, including seasonal guest workers. That’s just how competition in the labor market works.
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Can farmers even afford to pay their workers better? I had this thought about perhaps creating public-private partnerships to help farmers and domestic workers, for example, there are already some farm worker programs like support for migrant workers and their families (i.e migrant education). I know it’s basically corporate welfare but could such labor programs like paying farm worker housing and health benefits be a good idea to support the agricultural industry as well as promoting employment for the disadvantage (with supporting rural community development as another added benefit)?
 
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Can farmers even afford to pay their workers better? I had this thought about perhaps creating public-private partnerships to help farmers and domestic workers, for example, there are already some farm worker programs like support for migrant workers and their families (i.e migrant education). I know it’s basically corporate welfare but could such labor programs like paying farm worker housing and health benefits be a good idea to support the agricultural industry as well as promoting employment for the disadvantage (with supporting rural community development as another added benefit)?
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Farmers pay their workers the going rate, some do very well on the piece work and some not so well.
They can pay a higher rate, if required, and pass on the costs to consumers, all as it should be in business.

I think Farmers are already required to provide functional temporary housing during harvest season, though they don’t like it. The costs are shared among local farmers as the ‘pickers’ are working for most if not all the farmers in the location. Then the pickers move down the road and work the farms in the next county or farm community. Migrant is an apt description.

I can’t comment on the need to provide education, but I suspect it’s not a requirement since the harvest season is fairly short and the workers are moving from location to location, as noted above they are not in one place for very long. I don’t know if the whole family is allowed or not with seasonal ag visas…

Basic healthcare is much cheaper in Mexico, it might be that with a visa, migrants are required to have basic insurance which can be quite affordable. Students going abroad are required to do such a thing. Wages for legal workers from mexico must be the same as for citizens, if I recall. I think the finances are there to cover it one way or another.
 
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Their existence is not illegal, but their undesirable and harmful tendency to exist in my country is and should always be illegal.
 
Do not forget it was the Europeans who brought Catholicism over to the Americas.

If you want justify this invasion with the “law of nature” however, then I will justify using armed force to repel it under survival of the fittest which is the only law of nature.
 
starshiptrooper said:
undesirable and harmful tendency to exist in my country
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This is one of the most troubling statements I have read on here in a long time.

Could you ever, in your wildest dreams, imagine Jesus saying this about any person?
 
TheLittleLady said:
This is one of the most troubling statements I have read on here in a long time.

Could you ever, in your wildest dreams, imagine Jesus saying this about any person?
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Perhaps you should try some word substitution
In terms of ‘rule of law’ illegals are sinning.
Jesus would love the sinner, but not the sin.

If you don’t believe people should follow our rule of law, that is a fundamental difference.
Our laws support refugees but the vast majority are illegal economic migrants, not refugees.
 
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